http://edition.tefl.net/awards/eltchat/| 12:06 pm | esolcourses: | RT @rliberni: @ShellTerrell I agree #mobilelearning will really allow stds to take their learning with them #eltchat – no more heavy bags! |
| 12:06 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens it’s about using your mobile phone as a learning resource #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | englishraven: | @rliberni That’s always interested me, tho. Do most learners really want to use mobile for study? #ELTChat |
| 12:06 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @rliberni: @ShellTerrell I agree #mobilelearning will really allow stds to take their learning with them #eltchat – no more heavy bags! |
| 12:07 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELT http://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens you can access vocab, exercises etc & tchrs can use them in the c’room #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | rdlln: | Have #eltchat students create content for wikis using hand held devices. Ex: http://disasterinjapan.wikispaces.com/#mobilelearning |
| 12:07 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | esolcourses: | @du_siemens learning using mobile devices (such as phones, iPads, netbooks, games consoles, etc) #ELTChat#Mlearning |
| 12:07 pm | du_siemens: | @englishraven I was about to ask the same question. How willing are ss to do that? #ELTChat |
| 12:07 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @riberni & @shellTerrel #mobilelearning is growing fast here in Indonesia.Many vendors cater the needs too #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | BrunoELT: | #ELTchat SM is a key to social Learning. It is a way for students to learn beyond the barriers of walls and Time which restricts schools. |
| 12:08 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | TeacherLola: | Teachers should inspire developers to create more applications #mobilelearning #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens @englishraven @rliberni Used it with 4 to 10 yr olds & adults & all very keen on it if it’s not just drilling apps #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell That’s really good. Congrats! I’ll have a better look at it as soon as #ELTChat finishes today. |
| 12:08 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @esolcourses: RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearningfor #ELT http://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | rliberni: | @englishraven yes if it’s quick, easy and useful #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | Shaunwilden: | @englishraven Yes I’ve wondered this as well, am not sure how many are ready for mlearning #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | englishraven: | @ShellTerrell @rliberni @Shaunwilden Useful to distinguish between mLearning in class and outside of class? #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | BrunoELT: | Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:09 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens @englishraven I know @rliberni has had great success with her word of the day texting to English language learners #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven @rliberni in my opinion,teens are most likely to do so re:mobile for study #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | englishraven: | @annapires “How do we cater for the language needs of our learners in this digital age?” #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | StevenHerder: | @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat Are you in Indonesia? In a high school? Thanks. |
| 12:09 pm | rliberni: | @Shaunwilden @englishraven I send out just a simple word of the day via sms & it’s popular #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | esolcourses: | @englishraven @Shaunwilden I think a lot depends on how you do it. Many different ways to use #mlearning, both in and out of class #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! I agree! RT @englishraven: Useful to distinguish between mLearning in class and outside of class? #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | Marisa_C: | I find this question a bit wide open – can we narrow it down a bit please? #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | bucharesttutor: | Awesome page Jerry  RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page:http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv#eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @rliberni: @Shaunwilden @englishraven I send out just a simple word of the day via sms & it’s popular #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: I find this question a bit wide open – can we narrow it down a bit please? #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | du_siemens: | @Marisa_C Agreed. #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@englishraven: @rliberni That’s always interested me, tho. Do most learners really want to use mobile for study? #ELTChat?/ They do! |
| 12:10 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @rliberni:I send out just a simple word of the day via sms & it’s popular #eltchat that’s a neat idea |
| 12:10 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell I might try it someday. #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: I find this question a bit wide open – can we narrow it down a bit please? #ELTchat ] agree with you. Scope is very broad |
| 12:10 pm | martincaicedo: | #eltchat Agree. mlearning should enhance and promote autonomous learning. Learning beyond the classromm |
| 12:11 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C Yes, is it language needs (in terms of language itself) or mode of delivery (in digital age)? #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | @englishraven I’ve seen quite good use in class for concept checking and quick MCQs it can save a lot of time here #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | Marisa_C: | What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @StevenHerder yes in Indonesia but my students range up from kindergarten to high school #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | nutrich: | What are the “the language needs of our learners in this digital age” ? #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @martincaicedo: #eltchat Agree. mlearning should enhance and promote autonomous learning. Learning beyond the classromm |
| 12:11 pm | sedayyildirim: | @yitzha_sarwono google makes our life easier . I also share related links with my students #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | ShellTerrell: | Live video learning seems to be one technology that language students enjoy! Many sites Busuu, MyEngle, iTalki, Edufire #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C Yes, is it language needs (in terms of language itself) or mode of delivery (in digital age)? #ELTChat . gd 1 |
| 12:11 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @bucharesttutor: Awesome page Jerry RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Live video learning seems to be one technology that language students enjoy! Many sites Busuu, MyEngle, iTalki, Edufire #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @englishraven RT: Useful to distinguish between mLearning in class and outside of class? #ELTChat Yes definitely |
| 12:11 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@TutorMe_Online: what would be most valuable new apps for language?? #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | englishraven: | @rliberni I agree with in class research/reference and out of class ‘tidbits’, but wary of hyping mLearning too much just yet #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | Also think Voxopop has a strong community of language learners learning thru voice! @englishraven runs 1 of the most popular ones #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | Zoomicon: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | StevenHerder: | @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat Thanks. What % have a cell phone? From what age or grade? |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | @TeacherLola I think Apps are coming I haven’t seen many very good ones yet. #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | englishraven: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat |
| 12:12 pm | Marisa_C: | So, for example, more prominence to quick writing activities since a lot of this is needed in social media ? #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat |
| 12:12 pm | TeacherLola: | Indeed @rliberni: RT @martincaicedo: #eltchat Agree. mlearning should enhance and promote autonomous learning. Learning beyond the classroom |
| 12:13 pm | englishraven: | Topic suggestion from @annapires was more oriented around actual language #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat > thx for clarifying Anna |
| 12:13 pm | nutrich: | RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat Like internet discourse? |
| 12:13 pm | du_siemens: | Has anybody ever used twitter as a learning tool? 90% of my ss seem to have a twitter account and I’d love to take advantage of it #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | evemarfil: | JAPAN- NEWS in «The teaching village» via @barbsakahttp://www.teachingvillage.org/ #edchat #eltchat #edtech. My prayers are with you! |
| 12:13 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @annapires: @Marisa_C @englishraven When I suggested topic was thinking in terms of language! #ELTchat > thx for clarifying |
| 12:13 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @sedayyildirim glad you share the same idea #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | DebCapras: | Have you used mobile learning in your classes? http://t.co/ceeQVD6 via @polleverywhere #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | TeacherLola: | @rliberni apps are there but teacher do not know how to use them #ELTChat or too expensive c.c @tutorMe_online |
| 12:13 pm | englishraven: | @annapires @nutrich Right, so thinks like txt messaging and relevant language for tools? #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | nancyrubin: | RT @Marisa_C: What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | BrunoELT: | Using cellphones RT @du_siemens: I’m sorry, but I’m not familiar with Mobile Learning. Would anybody mind explaining it to me? #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | du_siemens: | RT @DebCapras: Have you used mobile learning in your classes? http://t.co/ceeQVD6 via @polleverywhere #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | @du_siemens @teflpet has done, she did a talk on it at iatefl last year #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | When integrating technology students are more motivated to self-explore the topic & apply after class #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: What do we mean by language needs in the digital age? Is it a new set of needs and what are they? #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | TutorMe_Online: | #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 12:14 pm | nancyrubin: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @TutorMe_Online: #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | @TeacherLola 4 adult stds w/out much time for lessons it’s a great way of bridging between f 2 f meets this is where I started #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @ShellTerrell: When integrating technology students are more motivated to self-explore the topic & apply after class #ELTChat Agreed |
| 12:14 pm | Marisa_C: | @annapires Exaclty – so a different set of writing skills – or new syllabuses for shortening messages? #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven @annapires exactly, blog comments and twitter have a particular discourse style and structure #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @TutorMe_Online: #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @du_siemens: Has anybody ever used twitter as a learning tool? 90% of my ss seem to have a twitter account and I’d love to take advantage of it #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:14 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:14 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell Definitely, especially because it’s something they already do at home… #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | du_siemens: | @Shaunwilden How did it go? #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | martincaicedo: | @ShellTerrell #ELTChat Yes. Our role should be showing them how to explore and make topics meaningful |
| 12:15 pm | englishraven: | @TutorMe_Online I don’t think ‘txt speak’ is any more different or disruptive than diff. b/w speaking and formal writing #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat David Crystal nails that answer on You Tube somewhere. Doesn’ hurt literacy, but helps it. |
| 12:15 pm | Shaunwilden: | @du_siemens She seems to get good results from it #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | @annapires is there a danger if students not being able to distinguish b’twn registers? #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:15 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @StevenHerder: @rliberni #eltchat David Crystal nails that answer on You Tube somewhere. Doesn’ hurt literacy, but helps it.>agree |
| 12:15 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @TeacherLola @rliberni That’s interesting – so maybe training teachers to use #mobilelearning is as important as new resources? #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | nutrich: | How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | du_siemens: | @StevenHerder Do you have that link in which David Crystal talks about it? #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens Here is a presentation I did in using #mobilelearning for #ELThttp://bit.ly/gjXQew#eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat> nice |
| 12:16 pm | teachermedeiros: | I like to use MSN as a tool with my Ss. Chatting in English has been turning them more self-confident about their learning #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | englishraven: | @nutrich @annapires Biggest one, I think, is how things like twitter,blogs,FB have narrowed gap between speaking and writing. #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | StevenHerder: | @annapires #ELTchat I read recently, “Ss need the language of opportunity” to get jobs and that is still standard English imho. |
| 12:16 pm | nancyrubin: | 10 Ideas for Podcasting and Vodcasting with Students - http://ow.ly/4fyPd#ELTchat |
| 12:16 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens That is a great idea for using Twitter with your students! @TEFLPet does this #Eltchat Heres the preshttp://bit.ly/hdwJhG |
| 12:16 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven @annapires yes, it’s like a blended discourse – speech as text #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | Shaunwilden: | @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder yes, but I even find myself using txt lang in emails which is clearly not necessary – just habit #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @martincaicedo: #ELTChat Yes. Our role should be showing them how to explore and make topics meaningful |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | englishraven: | @teachermedeiros Has this required you (as a teacher) to think about new discourse styles (and rules)? #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | nutrich: | RT @annapires: We need to draw attention to diff. RT @rliberni is there a danger if students not being able to distinguish b’twn registers? #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | du_siemens: | Once I attended a talk given by David Crystal and he said that SMS lgg doesn’t really hurt literacy, but helps it… #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @teachermedeiros Has this required you (as a teacher) to think about new discourse styles (and rules)? #ELTChatYes |
| 12:17 pm | odiep77: | RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv#eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @StevenHerder: @annapires #ELTchat I read recently, “Ss need the language of opportunity” to get jobs and that is still standard English imho. |
| 12:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @teachermedeiros: I like to use MSN as a tool with my Ss. Chatting in English has been turning them more self-confident about their learning #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | danrmitvn: | I’ve set up a Twitter feed with scrolling updated links in my class’ VLE. Can personalise links and make announcements. Big success #ELTchat |
| 12:18 pm | nutrich: | Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) |
| 12:18 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @englishraven Good point but at least speech is a diff form of communication but txting more like writing so poss more confusing? #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What kind of language do our sts need in this digital age? E.g. commenting on blogs, instant messaging, etc. |
| 12:18 pm | englishraven: | RT @danrmitvn: I’ve set up a Twitter feed with scrolling updated links in my class’ VLE. Can personalise links and make announcements. Big success #ELTchat |
| 12:18 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@TutorMe_Online:trained teachers are the most important resource about #mobilelearning #ELTChat? |
| 12:18 pm | englishraven: | RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) |
| 12:18 pm | rliberni: | @TutorMe_Online I think it’s coming. I’ve seen some really neat uses from university lecturers #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | BrunoELT: | #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://bit.ly/gQD1GH#mobilelearning #sigml#mlearningvia@esolcourses @Koronkina |
| 12:18 pm | du_siemens: | @danrmitvn How did you do so? Would you mind helping me? I’m eager to use twitter with my students, just don’t know how. #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) Yes depends on if you’re angry at us or not  |
| 12:18 pm | rliberni: | RT @BrunoELT: #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://bit.ly/gQD1GH #mobilelearning#sigml#mlearningvia@esolcourses @Koronkina |
| 12:18 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat ; ) |
| 12:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree RT @DebCapras: You have to be competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | nutrich: | @Shaunwilden Lol! Exactly! #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | BrunoELT: | Top 50 #mLearning (#Mobile #Learning) Resources http://slidesha.re/aaRMZ2 #mobilelearning #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | martincaicedo: | @teachermedeiros #ELTChat I’d say first thing is to identify how could MSN make your students’ achieve the learning objectives. |
| 12:19 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven @nutrich @annapires true,but I saw many of my students who are afraid to speak up,use english for their status on FB #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BrunoELT: #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://bit.ly/gQD1GH #mobilelearning#sigml#mlearningvia@esolcourses @Koronkina |
| 12:19 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: @annapires We seem to need to teach ‘spoken’ discourse as ‘written discourse’ to deal with social media etc #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | danrmitvn: | RT: @ShellTerrell ..think Voxopop has a strong community of language learners learning thru voice! > I’ve had HUGE success with it #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | StevenHerder: | @du_siemens #ELTChat I do now that you asked about David Crystal - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7WSzxQ0nX4 |
| 12:19 pm | du_siemens: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens That is a great idea for using Twitter with your students! @TEFLPet does this #EltchatHeres the pres http://bit.ly/hdwJhG |
| 12:19 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@ShellTerrell: Agree RT @DebCapras: You have to be competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. #eltchat? |
| 12:19 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @nutrich: Bad discourse example: IF I WRITE LIKE THIS ITS NOT GOOD, IS IT? #eltchat depen? (cont)http://deck.ly/~R24Og |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | @BrunoELT I agree I think it’s the mod day equivalent to the old memo book in the blazer pocket (at least it was 4 me :0)) #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | englishraven: | @yitzha_sarwono I agree that tweeting and FB updating are easier and less intimidating than speaking for many Ss. #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @BrunoELT: Top 50 #mLearning (#Mobile #Learning) Resources http://slidesha.re/aaRMZ2 #mobilelearning#ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | nancyrubin: | Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy - http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishraven: @yitzha_sarwono I agree that tweeting and FB updating are easier and less intimidating than speaking for many Ss. #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | esolcourses: | A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning #ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@BrunoELT: #ELTchat ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones http://t.co/6v1tcVu #mobilelearning #sigml#mlearning! Agreed! |
| 12:20 pm | englishraven: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy -http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | englishraven: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy -http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:20 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses I think ‘low tech’ is the most effective at least at the moment #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | BrunoELT: | You are missed! RT @Raquel_EFL: @BrunoELT Im aleady in the office #sfk… I’m afraid I won’t be able to make it ~~~ have a nice #eltchat ! |
| 12:20 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens That is a great idea for using Twitter with your students! @TEFLPet does this #EltchatHeres the pres http://bit.ly/hdwJhG |
| 12:21 pm | TutorMe_Online: | RT: @TeacherLola trained teachers are the most important resource about #mobilelearning #ELTChat? agree teachers v imp to keep productive |
| 12:21 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell I do it a lot, but sometimes I find it overwhelming. #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | englishraven: | Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | Marisa_C: | To what degree are politeness principles followed in online communication? #eltchat & are they the same e,g? (cont)http://deck.ly/~wwcoa |
| 12:21 pm | nutrich: | We often drop pronouns and articles to save space in tweets, e.g. ‘think I should go check oven’ #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: Live video learning seems to be one technology that language students enjoy! Many sites Busuu, MyEngle, iTalki #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @rliberni That’s great – becuase I guess with mobile learning there’s a greater risk of unproductivity if not properly focused #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens I do too & try to integrate what I can & use rest to help them build a plan for studying outside of class #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven interesting notion and totally researchable : – ) #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | englishraven: | @nutrich Do we do that during rapid speaking as well? #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @StevenHerder most of my primary have cellphone already.if you’re teaching in private schools 90% has BB/iPhone/android phone #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | Shaunwilden: | @englishraven Interesting idea – would sts not initally have the same stress and anxiety about formulating stuff? #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | nutrich: | some areas of the world use different emoticons #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat I think that’s fine. The problem is when Ss ONLY know txt speak. Thoughts? |
| 12:22 pm | mike08: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:22 pm | bsmsenglish: | @BrunoELT @Koronkina True, there are only very few decent ELT apps for the iphone eg. #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | danrmitvn: | @du_siemens I created a separate Twitter account then embed a customized Faves Widgethttps://twitter.com/about/resources/widgets#ELTchat |
| 12:23 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great point! I’ve heard different text speech as well RT @nutrich: some areas of the world use different emoticons #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven to an extent, I think we do, but I’m not certain, what do you reckon? #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | TeacherLola: | Blackberry is trend and most of students have them. But there are more teachers taking the devices out of classroom #ELTchat #mlearning |
| 12:23 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @ShellTerrell @du_siemens Yes – big advantage of mobile learning for language learners is ease of continuing study beyond class #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @teachermedeiros: I like to use MSN as a tool with my Ss. Chatting has been turning them more self-confident abt their learning #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | ascensiontucson: | @ShellTerrell @annapires @nutrich Great thoughts from #eltchat! |
| 12:23 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @bsmsenglish: True, there are only very few decent ELT apps for the iphone eg. #eltchat But do we need elt specific ones? |
| 12:23 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @englishraven: @yitzha_sarwono I agree that tweeting and FB updating are easier and less intimidating than speaking for many Ss. #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@danrmitvn: @du_siemens I created a separate Twitter account then embed a customized Faves Widgethttp://t.co/oZLA4G1 #ELTchat? |
| 12:24 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @bsmsenglish: @BrunoELT @Koronkina True, there are only very few decent ELT apps for the iphone eg. #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder my feeling is that this would be rare – perhaps choice? Like any register it needs to be flagged & taught #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | Shaunwilden: | @englishraven I look forward to reading your research #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | nancyrubin: | Model good use of Audio by providing audio feedback to students - http://ow.ly/4fz4I #ELTchat |
| 12:24 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven absolutely! you looking at ur phd thesis there  #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | englishraven: | @nutrich I think we do, but shorten in different ways for the two mediums. Important to note. #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | ShiftParadigm: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | gknightbkk: | If Ss are engaged in the discourse community why would you feel the need to teach it? They will learn. Give them the tools to join #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven that’s the idea but eventually teacher needs 2 encourage their students to speak up,coz as u said FB/tweet are easier #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder I also feel that some of it will eventually become standard – the way of things – You? #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | nutrich: | @englishraven yes I agree, I think there’s a difference #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | newmanswords: | RT @esolcourses: A lesson idea I blogged about, with some fairly low tech ideas for using mobiles #mlearning#ELTChathttp://bit.ly/daprpt |
| 12:25 pm | englishraven: | @yitzha_sarwono I think the perfect/interesting way is to work on them simultaneously. #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | esolcourses: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @suzanegmota @englishraven agree with that thought,but at least they are practicing their english #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | DebCapras: | #eltchat SS have to be a competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. |
| 12:25 pm | danrmitvn: | RT @ShellTerrell How many of us survey Ss to see which technologies,social media sites & tools they use? >good point! me:not enough #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses I know ppl who’ve tried mms, java etc and actually sms is the best (but still costs to send!) #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | hear hear @englishraven I think the perfect/interesting way is to work on them simultaneously. #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | ShiftParadigm: | When using social media, how to reflect tonal differences across cultures and languages? #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat I have Ss come back to Japan every year with chronic txt speak in their essays and regular writing. |
| 12:25 pm | thejamesabroad: | RT @gknightbkk: If Ss are engaged in the discourse community why would you feel the need to teach it? They will learn. Give them the tools to join #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | cybraryman1: | My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | evemarfil: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: #eltchat SS have to be a competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. |
| 12:26 pm | nutrich: | @annapires #eltchat you could get them doing that in the computer room, post a picture and get instant comments as a brainstorm |
| 12:26 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Bugger. Just tweeted it to the world, so good chance someone will get there before me! #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | Marisa_C: | I think not everyone able to engage fully if not sure or clear about some “unspoken protocols” #eltchat Think of examples of ppl who annoy? |
| 12:26 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT #ELTchat To practise exam speaking (e.g. FCE) show sts pics and imagine they are commenting on them on FB to warm up for task.> Good idea |
| 12:26 pm | englishraven: | RT @gknightbkk: If Ss are engaged in the discourse community why would you feel the need to teach it? They will learn. Give them the tools to join #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven delete that tweet immediatement! #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | suzanegmota: | @englishraven @yitzha_sarwono There´s a risk of having sts only using written lgg. #ELTchat |
| 12:26 pm | du_siemens: | RT @KarenInGreece: RT #ELTchat To practise exam speaking (e.g. FCE) show sts pics and imagine they are commenting on them on FB to warm up for task.> Good idea |
| 12:26 pm | SimonGreenall: | @englishraven Carefully noted, Jason #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | juanalejandro82: | holly cr*** it’s Wednesday and it’s #ELTChat‘s day! |
| 12:27 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall he he am a witness his idea #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder Do they also have inappropriate use of idiom and style? How would this work in their own language? #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | du_siemens: | RT @suzanegmota: @englishraven @yitzha_sarwono There´s a risk of having sts only using written lgg. #ELTchat |
| 12:27 pm | ShiftParadigm: | @englishraven @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden — good ide re thesis/research. Wonder whether FB or Twitter conduct or fund such efforts. #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @nutrich: @annapires #eltchat you could get them doing that in the computer room, post a picture and get instant comments as a brainstorm |
| 12:27 pm | esolcourses: | @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 examplehttp://www.cbfsms.com/ #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here. For EFL, it’s a lot less likely to be useful. Most comm. like this in L1. |
| 12:28 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @cybraryman1: My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | nancyrubin: | Bottom line – new tools empower students. teachers, and classrooms - http://ow.ly/4fzc6 #ELTchat |
| 12:28 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat Oooh good Q. Never imagines google could be a word, much less a verb until recently. Anything is possible, huh! |
| 12:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @esolcourses: @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 example http://www.cbfsms.com/#eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | rliberni: | RT @esolcourses: @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 example http://www.cbfsms.com/#eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here. For EFL, it’s a lot less likely to be useful. Most comm. like this in L1. |
| 12:28 pm | du_siemens: | I think it’s our role as a teacher 2 make our ss aware of the differences between SMS lgg and proper written lgg. Am I mistaken? #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | lilianasimon: | RT @englishraven: Idea that fascinates me… Could tweeting and FB scaffold and lay better foundations for eventual speaking skills? #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here….true though for EFL can access blogs, etc |
| 12:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @du_siemens: I think it’s our role as a teacher 2 make our ss aware of the differences between SMS lgg and proper written lgg. Am I mistaken? #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Think there’s a difference between EFL & ESL sts here. For EFL, it’s a lot less likely to be useful. Most comm. like this in L1. |
| 12:29 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens right. Correct use in correct context #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | englishraven: | @theteacherjames I sorta disagree. I think social media has huge potential for EFLers, who can be otherwise isolated. #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @suzanegmota true,but for me living in non-spoken English country it’s worth the try,at least they are trying something #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich But I wonder, don’t they already know it? I just do it sometimes to play safe… #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | pedussi: | RT @englishraven: @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden Would make for an interesting thesis… 3 groups (no social media, twitter, FB) with pre/post testing #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder yes, I think it’s just part of the teaching for L1 & L2 learners – I may be proved wrong! #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | evemarfil: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy -http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | DebCapras: | @nancyrubin #ELTchat Agree, but even native speakers have problems keeping up with speed of news flow in Twitter. How can NNS cope? |
| 12:30 pm | MrsC_teach: | RT @du_siemens: I think it’s our role as a teacher 2 make our ss aware of the differences between SMS lgg and proper written lgg. Am I mistaken? #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat LOL They bring back everything they hear enough times and want to mimic, if it seems cool |
| 12:30 pm | ShellTerrell: | For those who integrate tech effectively what are your observations of the impact it has had on your language learners? #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | theteacherjames: | @Shaunwilden Sure, we can make them aware of it, but it’s not worth going crazy over. #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @DebCapras: @nancyrubin #ELTchat Agree, but even native speakers have problems keeping up with speed of ne? (cont) http://deck.ly/~1w5En |
| 12:30 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: For those who integrate tech effectively what are your observations of the impact it has had on your language learners? #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | mme_henderson: | RT @ShellTerrell: When integrating technology students are more motivated to self-explore the topic & apply after class #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens they must recognise the concept as I suppose most languages have txt contractions, but still a need to get it riht #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | esolcourses: | @ShellTerrell @rliberni also, s’s often on payment plans where they get 100′s of free texts – the odd 1 or 2 in class won’t matter #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich Agreed. #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | Shaunwilden: | @theteacherjames Disagree, I think my sts have got a lot out of being able to access real world english #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | ddeubel: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | mme_henderson: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @martincaicedo: #ELTChat Yes. Our role should be showing them how to explore and make topics meaningful |
| 12:31 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTChat I tried to get the point reading over 100 tweets… I couldn’t… what’s today’s topic? |
| 12:31 pm | danrmitvn: | @ShellTerrell re: impact on learners: Involvement & interest in Eng. outside of class has gone up a lot for most students, 4 sure. #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | englishraven: | RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat I tried to get the point reading over 100 tweets… I couldn’t… what’s today’s topic? > Pretty good example! |
| 12:32 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames Disagree, I think my sts have got a lot out of being able to access real world english #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | StevenHerder: | @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat I strongly agree! |
| 12:32 pm | theteacherjames: | @englishraven Sure, but how likely are 2nd lang users to use text speech among themselves? Do they need to? #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | unha_engels: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @danrmitvn: re: impact on learners: Involvement & interest in Eng. outside of class has gone up a lot for most students, 4 sure. #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | TeacherLola: | @ShellTerrell #ELTChat not good, Teachers are not familiar with this and think is a waste of time. OldSchool classes they prefer #mlearning |
| 12:33 pm | esolcourses: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat What abt creating contexts 4 language practise that our ss can relate to? E.g. Describing rules of a game like Farmville for modals |
| 12:33 pm | mme_henderson: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy -http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:33 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Very good point. #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | ShiftParadigm: | @StevenHerder @rliberni yitzha_sarwono – quick question, how much should one rely on ICT to “translate” and “interpret”? #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | Marisa_C: | @theteacherjames #ELTChat So do you think it’s just a question of showing them what to do and then letting them loose!? |
| 12:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | @TeacherLola That’s the teachers but how about the students? It surprises me how some tchrs never consider their students 1st #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | englishraven: | @theteacherjames I think if EFL Ss join global groups/networks, it’s genuine communication, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder ‘cool’ is probably the key and that’s a different issue #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | du_siemens: | @seouldaddy Definitely. I always try to bring that up whenever I’m teaching writing as well. #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | averyteach: | RT?@cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://t.co/jpqUgyR#eltchat? #jmstigers |
| 12:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @englishraven:I think if EFL Ss join global groups/networks, it’s genuine communication, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | theteacherjames: | @Shaunwilden #eltchat I’m just not convinced it represents as much of the real world as we can make it out to be. Maybe one day? |
| 12:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annapires:I find sts are more motivated when learning lang & skills needed for tech they use in real life. #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses good point – but I’m pushing mine so I have to pay so I guess that’s the difference. #eltchat |
| 12:34 pm | Shaunwilden: | @ShiftParadigm @StevenHerder @rliberni As much as we would in real life? #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | BrunoELT: | @ShellTerrell I can easily recognize a sense of language confidence in the sts I use tech with. #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | englishraven: | @theteacherjames @ShellTerrell Tara Benwell’s work over on EC is a pretty powerful example! #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BrunoELT: I can easily recognize a sense of language confidence in the sts I use tech with. #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | teachermedeiros: | @englishraven Indeed.I improve their vocabulary from the former class by avoiding net vocabulary/slangs when chatting on the MSN.#ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: @TeacherLola That’s the teachers but how about the students? It surprises me how some tchrs never consider their students 1st #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @englishraven:I think if EFL Ss join global groups/networks, it’s genuine communication, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | Shaunwilden: | @theteacherjames I know it made my sts more willing to do hmk and be autonomous and that has to be a good thing #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @annapires:I find sts are more motivated when learning lang & skills needed for tech they use in real life. #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | StevenHerder: | @ShiftParadigm #eltchat Being engaged with English trumps everything in my EFL context. It’s all about timing – THEIRS not mine. |
| 12:35 pm | rliberni: | @ShiftParadigm @StevenHerder @Shaunwilden good answer Shaun tho some ppl have more faith than others #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ShellTerrell: RT @annapires:I find sts are more motivated when learning lang & skills needed for tech they use in real life. #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | ShellTerrell: | @englishraven @theteacherjames1000s of Ss in various EFL networks taking learning into their own hands bcuz school doesn’t offer #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | esolcourses: | @rliberni yes, I suppose so. Depends how many s’s you have as well. Many PAYG top up plans in UK give you 100′s of free texts #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | du_siemens: | I disagree with what’s been said here about not using net lgg with our students. Don’t they need to be exposed to it as well? #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | BrunoELT: | @juanalejandro82 How do we cater for sts needs in this digital era. #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @StevenHerder: @ShiftParadigm #eltchat Being engaged with English trumps everything in my EFL context. It’s all about timing – THEIRS not mine. |
| 12:35 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat @englishraven @Marisa_C It’s a question of emphasis, not ignorance. Teach by all means, but in proportion… |
| 12:36 pm | DebCapras: | RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden #eltchat Maybe one day? – THe community is growing – but it’s still very small. |
| 12:36 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Shaunwilden: @theteacherjames I know it made my sts more willing to do hmk and be autonomous and that has to be a good thing #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | keithbarrs: | textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:36 pm | englishraven: | Interesting also how things like twitter and FB are free… #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses maybe I should find a new provider! #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | du_siemens: | RT @englishraven: Interesting also how things like twitter and FB are free… #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @ShiftParadigm @StevenHerder @rliberni for me?as much as I can to get them to practice it? #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @keithbarrs: textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:36 pm | juanalejandro82: | RT @keithbarrs: textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | shoham1: | RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv#eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | DebCapras: | Interesting – see problem with twitter! RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat…point reading over 100 tweets…I couldn’t. what’s today’s topic? |
| 12:37 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @keithbarrs: textpedition idea can be done in non- english environments too, encouraging students to look in linguistic landscape for english #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | @matthewbennett I agree. Some of my adult students took a lot of pushing but glad I did it they appreciate it #Eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | BrunoELT: | @ShellTerrell it’s great to see that tech helps sts use the language outside the boundaries of a classroom. That’s priceless #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat @englishraven @Marisa_C Love to use soc. networks w /sts, but they don’t need specific language to do it unless comm. w/ L1 users. |
| 12:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! RT @BrunoELT: it’s great to see that tech helps sts use the language outside the boundaries of a classroom. That’s priceless #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | StevenHerder: | @sarahksantos #ELTChat Do they have Internet at home? If so, share your excitement… |
| 12:37 pm | gknightbkk: | Email was a problem because of its upstart language, compared to a letter. Twitter will replace email. We have to accept it. #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | Marisa_C: | I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | du_siemens: | @BrunoELT What do you mean by tech, Brunao? Can you give me examples? #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | du_siemens: | Definitely. RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Possibly, but it depends who’s buying them. Students, teachers, schools or ministries #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @du_siemens: Definitely. RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat > I think they are coursebooks! |
| 12:38 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @gknightbkk: Email was a problem because of its upstart language, compared to a letter. Twitter will replace email. We have to accept it. #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | juanalejandro82: | @Marisa_C and also the smartphone communication stuff! BlackBerry’s pins, for instance #ELTChat |
| 12:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall you have a point but online communication is a new genre and needs to be illustrated along others #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall you have a point but online communication is a new genre and needs to be illustrated along others #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | Aaronsgrant: | @marisa_C I agree. the Cambridge UP ‘Real’ series features a bit of this. #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | matthewbennett: | @ShellTerrell I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour (checking their e-mail). #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | theteacherjames: | @DebCapras @Shaunwilden @englishraven @Marisa_C #eltchat Don’t misunderstand me, love social networks, not sure about the lang. associated. |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @matthewbennett: @ShellTerrell I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour (checking their e-mail). #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven good point but require strong materials design skills by Ts #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall you have a point but online communication is a new genre and needs to be illustrated along others #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Agree. But the most conservative people are those who dont know what’s happening in the clasroom #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | nice thought @Marisa_C I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | englishraven: | @Marisa_C Or, “I think coursebook (elements/techniques) should feature (alongside) Twitter and FB”? #ELTChat |
| 12:40 pm | esolcourses: | @Marisa_C @DebCapras @nancyrubin I use protected Twitter accounts for s’s & have them just follow each other +me as an induction #ELTChat |
| 12:40 pm | TeacherLola: | @matthewbennett @shellterrell @rliberni My Ss don´t check their email anymore. They love the information in their FB walls! #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | nancyrubin: | Are podcasting with your students? Can be portable (students can listen on the go) and made public! http://ow.ly/4fzH3#ELTchat |
| 12:40 pm | Marisa_C: | @theteacherjames Am thinking along the lines of studying them as samples of effective +/- communication #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | esolcourses: | @Marisa_C @DebCapras @nancyrubin gets them used to using Twitter without being overwhelmed by the information flow #ELTChat |
| 12:40 pm | fboss: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:41 pm | matthewbennett: | @TeacherLola @shellterrell @rliberni Right, that’s another good observation. We have to follow what they’re using and go there too. #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @StevenHerder: @yitzha_sarwono #eltchat I strongly agree! |
| 12:41 pm | du_siemens: | Agreed, Suzane. RT @suzanegmota: @SimonGreenall @Marisa_C But they need to do so #ELTchat |
| 12:41 pm | StevenHerder: | @TeacherLola #eltchat Nice observation. Mine are headed that way, too. |
| 12:41 pm | Marisa_C: | @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:41 pm | rliberni: | @TeacherLola yes email is so ‘noughties’ Lol #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | englishraven: | RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:41 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTChat once I asked my Ss to use their cellphones in order to look for topics on the web. and it was an interesting experience |
| 12:42 pm | du_siemens: | I reckon there’s no way for us to bond with our students if we don’t try to understand what’s going on in their world. #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | rliberni: | RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat once I asked my Ss to use their cellphones in order to look for topics on the web. and it was an interesting experience |
| 12:42 pm | nutrich: | RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | SimonGreenall: | RT @StevenHerder: @TeacherLola #eltchat Nice observation. Mine are headed that way, too.> I agree too. But do decision makers agree? |
| 12:42 pm | englishraven: | RT @du_siemens: I reckon there’s no way for us to bond with our students if we don’t try to understand what’s going on in their world. #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | rliberni: | @juanalejandro82 interesting in what way? #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat once I asked my Ss to use their cellphones in order to look for topics on the web. and it was an interesting experience |
| 12:42 pm | theteacherjames: | @Marisa_C It’s a good example, you probably find some examples here.! #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | DebCapras: | @esolcourses @esolcourses #ELTChat #ELTChat That’s one safe way – when it comes to authentic tweets – language can be tough to decipher |
| 12:42 pm | keithbarrs: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 12:42 pm | nutrich: | RT @du_siemens: I reckon there’s no way for us to bond with our students if we don’t try to understand what’s going on in their world. #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | Marisa_C: | @juanalejandro82 Well, now you’re looking at the flipside of language: what digital skills should we introduce to our Ss? #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @TeacherLola @matthewbennett @shellterrell @rliberni hahaha,the same thing happens here!FB & twitter are they daily news! #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @SimonGreenall: @Marisa_C Agree. But the most conservative people arethose who dont know what’s happening in the clasroom #ELTchat |
| 12:42 pm | pauljinks: | Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:43 pm | Shaunwilden: | @juanalejandro82: #ELTChat is that interesting in a gd way? |
| 12:43 pm | bcnpaul1: | afternoon. coming in a bit late to #eltchat & trying to catch up |
| 12:43 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @nancyrubin: Are podcasting with your students? Can be portable (students can listen on the go) and made public!http://ow.ly/4fzH3#ELTchat |
| 12:43 pm | englishraven: | Yes, I think Ss language experience via Twitter or FB definitely enhanced with guidance from a teacher. #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | simfin: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree RT @DebCapras: You have to be competent at languages to use abbreviations/ txtspk correctly. #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | gknightbkk: | I notice many of you have not capitalised your Twitter names. Please correct this #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | rliberni: | @matthewbennett @yitzha_sarwono Agree and the problem us – what’s next? #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | du_siemens: | Should we really introduce net lgg / digital skills to our ss? If I do so, I’ll be humiliated because they know better than me. #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | englishraven: | RT @pauljinks: Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:43 pm | StevenHerder: | @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:43 pm | matthewbennett: | The following article about habits + effects is what got me thinking about all of this a couple of years agohttp://nyti.ms/gM4rJj #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | Shaunwilden: | @du_siemens So get them to teach you #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | rliberni: | RT @StevenHerder: @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:44 pm | nancyrubin: | RT @pauljinks: Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:44 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: @esolcourses and there are proteted apps like twiducate and edmodo #ELTChat |
| 12:44 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder who decides? #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | juanalejandro82: | that they only needed me when they didn’t know certain words in context RT @rliberni: interesting in what way? #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @pmackichan: Can’t see that twitter is any more important than basketball. How many times do you discuss basketball in L2? #ELTchat > |
| 12:44 pm | du_siemens: | @Shaunwilden That’s what I usually do. However, I do make them aware of the differences in writing (formal x informal). #ELTChat |
| 12:44 pm | matthewbennett: | @rliberni The problem us – what’s next???? Don’t understand what you mean? #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | SimonGreenall: | @matthewbennett Then you’re fortunate, and this isn’t the case in developing countries #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat? |
| 12:44 pm | bcnpaul1: | @marisa_c which digital skills? the skill to publish something (e.g.to a blog), read comments and then respond to create dialogue #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | juanalejandro82: | RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat? |
| 12:44 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @lesliedavison: mom told me her child is NOT using her Spanish after school this yr as she did last. No Edmodo, vokis, etc. #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | nutrich: | RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat | If it’s relevant to the student |
| 12:44 pm | LucyBlakemore: | e-learning Daily: stories via @ddeubel @englishraven and @davedodgson, inc thoughts on Japan ? http://t.co/oDpcHZb#eltchat #edtech #esl |
| 12:45 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @gknightbkk: I notice many of you have not capitalised your Twitter names. Please correct this #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | rliberni: | @matthewbennett now it’s FB but what’s round the corner? #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @matthewbennett: I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @nutrich: RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat | Ifrelevant to the student> agree |
| 12:45 pm | DebCapras: | Exactly – so many people don’t need Twitter. RT @nutrich: Learn to tweet should be a must! #ELTChat | If it’s relevant to the student |
| 12:45 pm | lesliedavison: | RT @mme_henderson: RT @nancyrubin: Commenting & Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy - http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | rliberni: | @juanalejandro82 that’s good then – did they enjoy it? I think #mlearningis still for bits of language – screens 2 small #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | bcnpaul1: | @TeacherLola tweeting v.useful for teachers, but perhaps not always relevant to sts (IM on facebook in english is better IMO) #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | nutrich: | @pmackichan it’s authentic in it’s own context but can’t be compared with different types of communciation #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: Exactly – so many people don’t need Twitter. RT @nutrich: Learn to tweet should be a must! #ELTChat | If it’s relevant to the student |
| 12:46 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @rliberni: @StevenHerder who decides? #eltchat Sorry, lost me there. |
| 12:46 pm | ShellTerrell: | @lesliedavison That is so sad but definitely shows the power of using these tools! #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @TeacherLola: ?@Marisa_C @juanalejandro82 Learn to tweet should be a must! #digitalskills #ELTChat? – only if relevant surely |
| 12:46 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan Could it be bcz u don’t engage in communication via twitter but prefer other platforms? #ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | matthewbennett: | @SimonGreenall Fortuante? To read an article ? What isn’t the case in developing countries?? #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | rliberni: | RT @lesliedavison: RT @mme_henderson: RT @nancyrubin: Commenting & Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy - http://ow.ly/4fyVN #ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @gknightbkk ah ok then,nice idea re:capitalised twitter name #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | suzanegmota: | @du_siemens Totally agree!!#ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | TeacherLola: | @nutrich Anything can be relevant to a student if the teacher gave the right context! #ELTChat@marisa_c@juanalejandro82 |
| 12:46 pm | juanalejandro82: | yes, indeed! because they face such a “self-taught” thing RT @Shaunwilden: #ELTChat is that interesting in a gd way? |
| 12:47 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan may be not relevant to u and of course not to every student #ELTchat |
| 12:47 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder who decides on whether you teach well or not #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @matthewbennett: I got the BEST response when I hooked the learning content into an existing tech behaviour #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | du_siemens: | Have we been taught how 2 use twitter? (some of us, yes). We just created an account and started experimenting with it. #ELTChat |
| 12:47 pm | nutrich: | @TeacherLola @marisa_c @juanalejandro82 ask the student first? #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | ProfDevSupport: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy -http://ow.ly/4fyVN#ELTchat |
| 12:47 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens yes in L1 #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | Marisa_C: | @TeacherLola that’s quite a sweeping statement – a prescribed syllabus orientation – not true of every context #ELTChat |
| 12:47 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @rliberni @matthewbennett hopefully getting them on some sort of group chatting like what we do here #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | matthewbennett: | Right, good question from @rliberni what’s after FB? I don’t think it’s so much about ‘after FB/Twitter’ but mobile phones + access #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | Shaunwilden: | @juanalejandro82 A good lesson in ‘why ask me the teacher when you can find out for yourself’ #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich Even in L2… I love in Brazil and my students speak Portuguese, right? However, most of them have FB accounts. #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | esolcourses: | @StevenHerder @SimonGreenall great to have that level of autonomy Steven, though bureaucracy can sometimes be tough to cut through #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @juanalejandro82 A good lesson in ‘why ask me the teacher when you can find out for yourself’ #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | keithbarrs: | #ELTchat been surprised by and engaged in the english communications on twit and FB between Japanese students on earthquake related news |
| 12:48 pm | BrunoELT: | @guipac it’s vital to hook the learning content into an existing tech behaviour #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | du_siemens: | @nutrich I live in Brazil, I’m sorry. #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @matthewbennett: Right, good question from @rliberni what’s after FB? I don’t think it’s so much about ‘after FB/Twitter’ but mobile phones + access #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat been surprised by and engaged in the english communications on twit and FB between Japanese students on earthquake related news |
| 12:48 pm | TeacherLola: | @nutrich And show others such as Blaving. #Eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat been surprised by and engaged in the english communications on twit and FB between Japanese students on earthquake related news |
| 12:49 pm | nutrich: | @du_siemens Oh yeah, lol, good point! ; ) #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | simfin: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | gknightbkk: | If Ss need English for employment, ask the employers what social networking skills are required #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | matthewbennett: | Having used an iPhone + apps now for a month or so, that type of mobile access is the next thing. It’s already here, in fact. #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @simfin: RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | SimonGreenall: | @esolcourses Thanks Sue that was what I was trying to say in 140 chrcts #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @matthewbennett: Having used an iPhone + apps now for a month or so, that type of mobile access is the next thing. It’s already here, in fact. #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | juanalejandro82: | @Shaunwilden #ELTchat because they still need us to guide them how to use digital skills in a right way! and any other skill! |
| 12:49 pm | StevenHerder: | @rliberni #eltchat Cheers. My boss knows based on S evaluations, and student chatter , just as I know about others… |
| 12:49 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @du_siemens: Have we been taught how 2 use twitter? (some of us, yes). We just created an account and started experimenting #ELTChat |
| 12:49 pm | TeacherLola: | @Marisa_C Thank you. I think Adult Ss could be the more reluctant to use this #ELTchat |
| 12:50 pm | esolcourses: | @StevenHerder @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many teachers.& IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | englishraven: | RT @esolcourses: @StevenHerder @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many teachers.& IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | Shaunwilden: | @juanalejandro82 Oh yes I agree but i meant it is good for them to realise they can do things without us #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many teachers.& IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | nutrich: | must go, but enjoyed interesting #eltchat. cheers |
| 12:50 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @StevenHerder: @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:50 pm | juanalejandro82: | RT @Shaunwilden: @juanalejandro82 Oh yes I agree but i meant it is good for them to realise they can do things without us #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | matthewbennett: | People?especially kids, teenagers + young adults?who have iPhones or Android, spend ALL day using them. That’s where we go. #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | du_siemens: | Letting our ss find out things by themselves isn’t part of promoting ss’s autonomy? Why do we HAVE to teach them how to use tech? #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@gknightbkk: If Ss need English for employment, ask the employers what social networking skills are required #eltchat?/ #fact |
| 12:51 pm | DebCapras: | Absolutely – autonomous learning is the future – using Twitter if you must. RT @Shaunwilden: —they can do things without us #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | rliberni: | @StevenHerder OK so it works as a system & everybody has the chance to be in control if they demonstrate ‘ability’ #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: Absolutely – autonomous learning is the future – using Twitter if you must. RT @Shaunwilden: —they can do things without us #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Agree. Not just the media but the language used in it can be rejected by curriculum designers, ministries etc #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | englishraven: | @matthewbennett But do they want ‘study’ included/intruding in their “all day” mobile lives? #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @BrunoELT: RT @du_siemens: Have we been taught how 2 use twitter? (some of us, yes). We just created an account and started experimenting #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | StevenHerder: | @esolcourses #eltchat I’ve always looked up at the perceived “good” Ts and noticed that they could do as they liked. Striving to get there |
| 12:52 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @matthewbennett: People?especially kids, teenagers + young adults?who have iPhones or Android, spend ALL day using them. That’s where we go. #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | suzanegmota: | @matthewbennett Do they use it for any kind of learning? #ELTchat |
| 12:52 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @matthewbennett: People?especially kids, teenagers + young adults?who have iPhones or Android, spend ALL day using them. That’s where we go. #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authorities – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:52 pm | du_siemens: | @thejamesabroad It’s another thing now, right? We should encourage students to use the target language. #ELTChat |
| 12:52 pm | rliberni: | @DebCapras I agree autonomous learning puts the learner right in the centre & allows them to draw in what they need #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @rliberni: @DebCapras I agree autonomous learning puts the learner right in the centre & allows them to draw in what they need #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | suzanegmota: | @englishraven @matthewbennett That´s avery good point, I don´t think so #ELTchat |
| 12:53 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens But do your students speak to each other on FB in Eng or Portuguese? And what about after the course has finished? #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authorities – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | englishraven: | @SimonGreenall @Marisa_C Look how long it took corpus-based language to gain face… #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | TeacherLola: | @englishraven @matthewbennett Why to “study” all day, when you can “practice” all day #EFL #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Yes, although publishers will go where there’s a market. If ministries are run by oldstyle academics, then change is slow #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTchat sometimes it is us who learn from Ss when talking about “digital skills”… I guess… they are lynxes |
| 12:53 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @esolcourses: @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many Ts & IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat AGREED |
| 12:53 pm | matthewbennett: | @englishraven Do they want ‘study’ anywhere? Nope. Or at least probably not. So we make it fun, amusing and above all EASY to try. #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authories – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | esolcourses: | @StevenHerder agree up to a point, though IME, a lot depends on the context you are teaching in/org. you work for #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: @SimonGreenall So I guess we need to wait until social media acquires some “face” with curriculum authorities – publishers etc #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C @riberni @englishraven :great #eltchat as always,but I have to go now! see you guys next week! |
| 12:54 pm | Marisa_C: | @SimonGreenall good point #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | rliberni: | RT @StevenHerder: RT @esolcourses: @SimonGreenall unfortunately social media sites are blocked for many Ts & IMO, this needs to be challenged #ELTChat AGREED |
| 12:54 pm | Marisa_C: | @yitzha_sarwono thanks for joining and see you soon:-) #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | englishraven: | @matthewbennett @matthewbennett I think this has a lot to do with reasons for learning English. #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | keithbarrs: | #ELTchat When I asked japanese student why she always wrote on FB in english she said it just seemed natural, everyone else was doing it |
| 12:55 pm | rliberni: | @yitzha_sarwono thanks for a gr9 chat c u nxt time #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | TeacherLola: | @Marisa_C @simongreenall I try to “sell” the knowledge of what I need them to practice on FB. This help them to practice #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | matthewbennett: | RT @Aaronsgrant: @matthewbennett agree. my students in kuwait would die a slow agonizing death without their blackberries #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | englishraven: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat When I asked japanese student why she always wrote on FB in english she said it just seemed natural, everyone else was doing it |
| 12:55 pm | DebCapras: | agree RT @matthewbennett: @englishraven So we make it fun, amusing and above all EASY to try. #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @SimonGreenall: @Marisa_C Yes, although publishers will go where there’s a market. If ministries are run by oldstyle academics, then change is slow #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens #eltchat I didn’t say would should they do, but what do they do! |
| 12:56 pm | DebCapras: | That’s what we likeRT @teachermedeiros: #ELTChat After encouranging my Ss on MSN, FB and Twitter, their language skills have improved a lot! |
| 12:56 pm | StevenHerder: | @esolcourses #eltchat Yes, you’re right. I’ve been in Elem, JSHS and Uni – all private. |
| 12:56 pm | du_siemens: | The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@matthewbennett: RT @Aaronsgrant: my students in kuwait would die a slow agonizing death without their blackberries #eltchat/ Colombia 2! |
| 12:56 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @teachermedeiros: #ELTChat After encouranging my Ss on MSN, FB and Twitter, their language skills have improved a lot! – cool |
| 12:56 pm | matthewbennett: | I mean, you have to think how an iPhone/Android app works and why you think one’s GREAT. Then try and do that for your teaching. #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | DebCapras: | A no-brainer really RT @du_siemens: The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | gknightbkk: | Social media will/has become business media. It’s got nothing to do with Ministries of Education – or shouldn’t #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @DebCapras: A no-brainer really RT @du_siemens: The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:57 pm | englishraven: | RT @gknightbkk: Social media will/has become business media. It’s got nothing to do with Ministries of Education – or shouldn’t #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | StevenHerder: | RT @keithbarrs: #ELTchat When I asked japanese student why she always wrote on FB in english she said it just seemed natural, everyone else was doing it |
| 12:57 pm | DebCapras: | @gknightbkk Agree. Students are deciding what they need to learn themselves in many cases #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | esolcourses: | RT @rliberni: @DebCapras I agree autonomous learning puts the learner right in the centre & allows them to draw in what they need #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | marett: | RT @BrunoELT: Top 50 #mLearning (#Mobile #Learning) Resources http://slidesha.re/aaRMZ2 #mobilelearning#ELTchat |
| 12:57 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan I love the teacher as bully to use twitter #ELTchatReminds me of myself and my trainees :trainees “What? no Twitter account yet?” #ELTchat |
| 12:57 pm | juanalejandro82: | #ELTchat I guess there’s only one bad thing about digital skills. Ss forget grammar by learning how to use less characters |
| 12:57 pm | teachermedeiros: | By posting in English instead of Portuguese on FB and Twitter, as well, my Ss have improved a lot their language skills! #ELTChat |
| 12:57 pm | englishraven: | Gotta go, folks. Thanks for another thought-provoking #ELTChat ! |
| 12:57 pm | rliberni: | RT @DebCapras: A no-brainer really RT @du_siemens: The more our students are exposed to English, the better their English tends to get, right? #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | matthewbennett: | I mean, you’d definitely be talking about ‘micro-learning’ on an iPhone, but you get a whole new world of UI, video, photos and? #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | du_siemens: | RT @teachermedeiros: By posting in English instead of Portuguese on FB and Twitter, as well, my Ss have improved a lot their language skills! #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | esolcourses: | RT @englishraven: Gotta go, folks. Thanks for another thought-provoking #ELTChat ! |
| 12:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @pmackichan interestingly only those who want will join so …#ELTchat |
| 12:58 pm | StevenHerder: | @matthewbennett #eltchat As would I without my iPhone |
| 12:58 pm | du_siemens: | @englishraven See you soon. #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | SimonGreenall: | @englishraven Bye! #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @englishraven Cheers Jason and thanks for great moderation! #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @teachermedeiros: By posting in English instead of Portuguese on FB and Twitter, as well, my Ss have improved a lot their language skills! #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | matthewbennett: | ?most importantly, perhaps, it’s so EASY to comment, participate and share. Sounds like good news for learning to me. #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | ddeubel: | RT @StevenHerder: @SimonGreenall #eltchat The better I teach, the more I’m allowed to decide what goes on in my classroom |
| 12:58 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens Sorry, when they use FB with each other do they use Portuguese or English? #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | rliberni: | Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | TeacherLola: | @englishraven Thank you! #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | gknightbkk: | RT @matthewbennett: ?most importantly, perhaps, it’s so EASY to comment, participate and share. Sounds like good news for learning to me. #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Well, some of my students are already using English as I’ve motivated them to… #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | arezac: | RT @pauljinks: Social media offer students the authentic meaningful interactions we strain to achieve in class. #ELTchat. |
| 12:59 pm | du_siemens: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | DebCapras: | @matthewbennett Sometimes too easy to share – don’t absorb /learn anything from the content – just RT and forget? #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens :0) #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | keithbarrs: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | TeacherLola: | I wonder, How do you deal with texting in native language in class? #ELTChat |
| 1:00 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @EclipsingX Hello world!: Welcome to WordPress. This is your first post. Edit or delete it, t… http://bit.ly/fkG5o9#ELT#ELTchat #ESL |
| 1:00 pm | esolcourses: | A round of thanks to today’s #ELTchat moderators @rliberni@Shaunwilden @englishraven @Marisa_C |
| 1:00 pm | du_siemens: | I’d like to say something for the moderators: one hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 1:01 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens It takes encouragement, doesn’t it? #eltchat |
| 1:01 pm | StevenHerder: | Thanks everyone #ELTchat |
| 1:01 pm | Marisa_C: | Well good #ELTchatters, thank you all for joining this conversation today and giving me such a great buzz!! Lots to think about! #ELTchat |
| 1:01 pm | werner216: | RT @matthewbennett: I mean, you have to think how an iPhone/Android app works and why you think one’s GREAT. Then try and do that for your teaching. #eltchat |
| 1:01 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Yep, but if u don’t encourage ur ss to speak English in class, they won’t. Right? The same happens to tech. #ELTChat |
| 1:01 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@du_siemens: I’d like to say something for the moderators: one hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat?/ Agree |
| 1:01 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @du_siemens: I’d like to say something for the moderators: 1hr hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat enough to what appetites |
| 1:01 pm | Marisa_C: | @esolcourses Thanks for your fab contributions, Sue #ELTchat |
| 1:01 pm | matthewbennett: | As great example of iPhone possibilities: watch first 2?3 min of what Vaynerchuk has done with his new projecthttp://bit.ly/f47Ud0 #eltchat |
| 1:01 pm | DebCapras: | @Marisa_C Thanks back to you too. #ELTchatters #ELTchat |
| 1:02 pm | babelannet: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:02 pm | teachernz: | @sarahksantos #eltchat buy a USB 3g dongle … prepaid plan … instant internet (if you have coverage) #lurking |
| 1:02 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: Well good #ELTchatters, thank you all for joining this conversation today and giving me such a great buzz!! Lots to think about! #ELTchat |
| 1:02 pm | rliberni: | OK I have to go to GapCHat now! Gr8 chat thnx to tech gurus @Marisa_C@ShellTerrell @englishraven@Shaunwilden for moderating! #eltchat |
| 1:03 pm | Marisa_C: | @rliberni you are naughty #eltchat I ain’t no tech guru |
| 1:03 pm | TeacherLola: | #ELTChat makes me ponder about my teaching. Thank you! |
| 1:03 pm | TutorMe_Online: | @du_siemens @marisa_C @esolcourses @rliberni @englishraven@BrunoELT @ShellTerrell thanks for wonderful and inspiring #eltchat |
| 1:03 pm | rliberni: | @SimonGreenall that would be fantastic! Gr8 chat today #eltchat |
| 1:03 pm | matthewbennett: | @DebCapras Maybe, but at least you’re getting them participating and paying attention to SOMETHING. #eltchat |
| 1:04 pm | rliberni: | @Marisa_C OK so just guru then Lol #eltchat |
| 1:04 pm | du_siemens: | @suzanegmota It’s because it was your first time. You’ll soon get used to it. #ELTChat |
| 1:04 pm | Marisa_C: | Thanks to these great moderators: @rliberni @ShellTerrell @englishraven@Shaunwilden #eltchat |
| 1:05 pm | matthewbennett: | What if, for example, someone did a simple ‘word a day’ iPhone app with: listen to pronunciation, speak and record your effort? #eltchat |
| 1:05 pm | du_siemens: | Thank you guys for another enlightening #ELTChat. I might try to use tech more often with my students and I’ll let you know how it went. |
| 1:06 pm | Marisa_C: | @Aaronsgrant Hi Aaron! Have you been following the chat? Do remember to use the #ELTchat hashtag bcz I didn’t see any of yr tweets |
| 1:06 pm | matthewbennett: | ?photo of word or concept and some kind of ‘guess the translation’ thingy + look at + comment on your friends’ words? #eltchat |
| 1:06 pm | ShellTerrell: | Thanks to these great moderators: @rliberni @Marisa_C @englishraven@Shaunwilden #eltchat |
| 1:07 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Aaronsgrant: @Marisa_C yea, i’m just taking it all in…#ELTchat > great! |
| 1:07 pm | matthewbennett: | .@Aaronsgrant Does it do sharing, comment on your friends’ words, photos, pronunciation, etc, etc? or is it just ‘the word’ ? #eltchat |
| 1:08 pm | Marisa_C: | Transcript anyone? #ELTchat |
| 1:09 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @du_siemens: I’d like to say something for the moderators: one hour is not enough. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 1:09 pm | adricarv: | RT @rliberni : Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:09 pm | ShellTerrell: | @du_siemens We have another #ELTChat at 9pm GMT you know |
| 1:10 pm | CassyLL: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:10 pm | du_siemens: | @ShellTerrell I do, but I’ll be teaching. #ELTChat |
| 1:11 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens #eltchat Absolutely! |
| 1:11 pm | Dista11: | RT @nutrich: How do you write a ‘critical’ tweet but remain friendly? We use ; ) emoticons. Part of discourse? #eltchat |
| 1:12 pm | larisa1113: | RT @rliberni: Tech allows us to expose students to English every day whether they’re in the class or not and it’s fun & easy to do #eltchat |
| 1:12 pm | Dista11: | RT @TutorMe_Online: #eltchat do people think there is a risk to language learners from ‘digital speak’ ie text message abbreviations etc? |
| 1:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: @du_siemens We have another #ELTChat at 9pm GMT you know |
| 1:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:14 pm | larisa1113: | RT @esolcourses: @rliberni there are a number of sites where you can send txts for free, such as CardBoardFish, 4 example http://www.cbfsms.com/#eltchat |
| 1:14 pm | juanalejandro82: | English teachers sharing information and experiences RT @josh_d7: @juanalejandro82 man que es eso de #eltchatdisculpa mi ignorancia |
| 1:16 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm#ELTchat needs YOU! > Great post Shaun! |
| 1:18 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm #ELTchat needs YOU! > Great post Shaun! |
| 1:19 pm | larisa1113: | RT @web20education: Teachers join free #vwbpe VIRTUAL WORLDS ? BEST PRACTICES IN EDUCATION 4TH ANNUAL CONFERENCE http://t.co/O1ZX9vJ #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt |
| 1:20 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:20 pm | eslguide: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:21 pm | interactivecup: | RT @marisa_c: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm #ELTchat needs YOU! > Great post Shaun! |
| 1:22 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:24 pm | du_siemens: | RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat ? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:36 pm | abfromz: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
| 1:40 pm | CELT_Athens: | ELTChat needs you?. http://bit.ly/hNLjwc #ELTchat |
| 1:42 pm | kinktent: | #ELTChat makes me ponder about my teaching. Thank you! http://bit.ly/h71eKN |
| 1:53 pm | RitaOates: | RT @ShellTerrell: How many of us survey our students to see which technologies, social media sites, & tools they already use for us to integrate? #ELTChat |
| 1:56 pm | gregsweetnam: | RT @Marisa_C: I think twitter updates and facebook conversations should feature in new coursebooks #ELTchat |
| 1:57 pm | katblue14: | RT @BrunoELT: Digital Integration Promotes Communication, Collaboration, and Creation Skills. The very skills kids will need for their world. #ELTchat |
| 2:00 pm | rliberni: | RT @CELT_Athens: ELTChat needs you?. http://bit.ly/hNLjwc #ELTchat |
| 2:05 pm | danrmitvn: | Looking 4 a site for Ss 2 record audio clips & embed them on a website. Voxopop-esque but embeddable (with ability 2 reply) #eltchat #edtech |
| 2:06 pm | patysavage: | RT @cybraryman1: My Tech Integration for English Language Learners page: http://tinyurl.com/4eflbvc #ELTChat |
| 2:10 pm | fionamau: | RT @du_siemens: RT @Shaunwilden: Can you help #eltchat? http://bit.ly/i2gRbm |
This is the transcript of the 9pm GMT #eltchat on 16.03.11 |
All times are GMT
| 01 pm | Shaunwilden: | Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN’s – what and how |
| 9:01 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @bcnpaul1: for the next hour, my tweets dedicated to #ELTChat – me too |
| 9:01 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN’s – what and how |
| 9:02 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @rliberni: For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | tarabenwell: | For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN’s – what and how |
| 9:02 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Teacherhorizons: @Shaunwilden hey what does PLN’s stand for? #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | DinaDobrou: | Good evening all. For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm | bcnpaul1: | @fuertesun Good evening to you. How is it to be back on all your land? #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @tarabenwell: For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat > mine too, discussing student PLNs |
| 9:03 pm | mr_isaacs: | RT @cybraryman1: My Mobile Learning (M-Learning,Cell Phones in the Classroom) page: http://tinyurl.com/48brwrv #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | rliberni: | OK let’s begin with a definition PLN Personal Learning Network #eltchat any advance? |
| 9:03 pm | bcnpaul1: | good question. student PLNs what & how? #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | juanalejandro82: | what’s the topic? RT @bcnpaul1: for the next hour, my tweets dedicated to #ELTChat |
| 9:03 pm | tarabenwell: | I introduced my online learners to the term PLN back in September. #ELTChat |
| 9:03 pm | treeves: | @Shaunwilden personal learning network #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: Evening All, tonights #ELTChat is student PLN’s – what and how |
| 9:03 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @rliberni: OK let’s begin with a definition PLN Personal Learning Network #eltchat any advance? |
| 9:04 pm | rliberni: | @juanalejandro82 discussing student PLNs #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | katekidney: | Good evening, dear #ELTChat participants!  ) |
| 9:04 pm | cybraryman1: | @ShaunwildenA PLN is a Personal Learning Network: My PLN page: http://tinyurl.com/4sn9psf #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: @ShaunwildenA PLN is a Personal Learning Network: My PLN page: http://tinyurl.com/4sn9psf #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @cybraryman1: @ShaunwildenA PLN is a Personal Learning Network: My PLN page: http://tinyurl.com/4sn9psf #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | bcnpaul1: | Is it realistic to expect students in a classroom-based environment to form a PLN? #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @thejamesabroad: #eltchat I’m obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Me too |
| 9:05 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @thejamesabroad: #eltchat I’m obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Me too |
| 9:05 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat I’m obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Fascinated to hear your experiences. |
| 9:05 pm | rliberni: | I would say that these are sometimes formed naturally within a class #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @tarabenwell: I introduced my online learners to the term PLN back in September. #ELTChat> I was new to PLNs back then too. Let alone sts |
| 9:05 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @bcnpaul1: Is it realistic to expect students in a classroom-based environment to form a PLN? #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | PLN’s inspired by commoncraft http://youtu.be/YEls3tq5wIY #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @rliberni: I would say that these are sometimes formed naturally within a class #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | rliberni: | PLNs nowadays are usually online but do they need to be? #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | tarabenwell: | For students a PLN is useful for motivation and practice. Disconnected learners can easily find a PLN these days. #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: PLN’s inspired by commoncraft http://youtu.be/YEls3tq5wIY #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: PLN’s inspired by commoncraft http://youtu.be/YEls3tq5wIY #ELTchat > I loved this the minute I saw it! |
| 9:06 pm | ShellTerrell: | I think @rliberni & @tarabenwell can share a lot about their communities & how they help English language learners develop PLNs #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | KarenInGreece: | For the next hour my tweets are dedicated to #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat Please ignore tweets from @thejamesabroad, it’s my idiot alter ego. Doh… |
| 9:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: For students a PLN is useful for motivation and practice. Disconnected learners can easily find a PLN these days. #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @thejamesabroad: #eltchat I’m obviously familiar with the idea of a PLN for teachers, but not really for students. Me too |
| 9:06 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @rliberni: PLNs nowadays are usually online but do they need to be? > I don’t think so #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | cerirhiannon: | @rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat – though not necessarily online – is that a PLN? |
| 9:06 pm | ShellTerrell: | Is the PLN concept age specific for students? #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: How about a school Facebook page? That’s what I do to share useful links & info with sts. #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @rliberni: PLNs nowadays are usually online but do they need to be? > I don’t think so #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great idea! RT @annapires: How about a school Facebook page? That’s what I do to share useful links & info with sts. #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat – though not necessarily online – is that a PLN? |
| 9:07 pm | treeves: | @bcnpaul1 seems like more of a career oriented support system #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat – though not necessarily online – is that a PLN? |
| 9:07 pm | harrisonmike: | @rliberni PLNs new more internationally connected version of motivated and sharing staffroom as was? #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1: realistic 2 expect students in a classroom-based environment to form a PLN? #eltchat >> Hi. Is this the topic?PLNs in class? |
| 9:07 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @tarabenwell: I introduced my online learners to the term PLN back in September. #ELTChat> I was new to PLNs back then too. Let alone sts |
| 9:07 pm | tarabenwell: | I challenged my online learners to describe their PLN. I shared mine as a model: http://tinyurl.com/4a97v69 #ELTChat |
| 9:07 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @ShellTerrell: Is the PLN concept age specific for students? #ELTChat > i think young learners are more able & willing |
| 9:07 pm | harrisonmike: | @rliberni I count Ts at my college among PLN members – they give me fab ideas =) #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @rliberni: I would say that these are sometimes formed naturally within a class #eltchat I’m not sure I gra? (cont) http://deck.ly/~sW13u |
| 9:07 pm | rliberni: | My Gapfillers students have the chance to chat, play games together and form study-buddy groups all within the site #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | ShellTerrell: | I can’t help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat |
| 9:07 pm | europeaantje: | RT @harrisonmike: @rliberni I count Ts at my college among PLN members – they give me fab ideas =) #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @rliberni: My Gapfillers students have the chance to chat, play games together and form study-buddy groups all within the site #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: For students a PLN is useful for motivation and practice. Disconnected learners can easily find a PLN these days. #ELTChat |
| 9:08 pm | EclipsingX: | #eltchat how about blogging EDUBLOG has a student challenge to help students form links |
| 9:08 pm | bcnpaul1: | @fionamau PLNs and students #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | Shaunwilden: | @tarabenwell Thanks for the link that was really helpful #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | theteacherjames: | @rliberni #eltchat I guess an offline, classroom based support group can often form, and be seen as a PLN? |
| 9:08 pm | fionamau: | @bcnpaul1 #eltchat Thank you, sir |
| 9:08 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @EclipsingX: #eltchat how about blogging EDUBLOG has a student challenge to help students form links> And KIDBLOG for YLs! |
| 9:08 pm | tarabenwell: | In my model I included colleagues, moderators, bloggers (some unrelated to ELT) #ELTChat |
| 9:08 pm | harrisonmike: | How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | juanalejandro82: | well, the already mentioned facebook and twitter are PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:09 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: In my model I included colleagues, moderators, bloggers (some unrelated to ELT) #ELTChat |
| 9:09 pm | rliberni: | @Shaunwilden personally I think a PLN is a group of learners who come together ‘naturally’ to learn so cld be within a class #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @tarabenwell: In my model I included colleagues, moderators, bloggers (some unrelated to ELT) #ELTChat |
| 9:09 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat > yes, lots! |
| 9:09 pm | bcnpaul1: | I think online courses or blended courses r more likely to foster student PLNs, especially courses leading to an exam #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | annabooklover: | RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni some classes form natural support networks #eltchat – though not necessarily online – is that a PLN? |
| 9:09 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat > yes, lots! |
| 9:09 pm | CELT_Athens: | RT @harrisonmike: How much do you learn from your students? Are they part of your PLN too? (My answers: lots and yes) #eltchat> gd 1 |
| 9:09 pm | ianaddison: | @ShellTerrell we’ve started a map here in UK to find local teachers, want to join? Http://bit.ly/teachmap #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | DinaDobrou: | @rliberni @Shaunwilden What about penpals or epals? They are PLNs too. And the former are not online! #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | katekidney: | When I created a Facebook group for my students to join in, may it be a case of PLN?#ELTChat |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | @harrisonmike agree once we shared at conferences or with colleagues now we can share with many more ppl #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | tarabenwell: | Here is a student example: http://my.englishclub.com/profiles/blogs/my-pln #ELTChat |
| 9:10 pm | EclipsingX: | @ShellTerrell I agree with you about student perspective. It would be good.) #ELTCHAT |
| 9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @katekidney: When I created a Facebook group for my students to join in, may it be a case of PLN?#ELTChat> yes |
| 9:10 pm | harrisonmike: | @annapires But, remember, you can take the horse to water… PLN-forming not for everybody? Nor should it be, really #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | web20education: | Students circle network Meet Students In Over 120 Countries #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat #ntchat #education http://bit.ly/fVP45Z |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: @rliberni @Shaunwilden What about penpals or epals? They are PLNs too. And the former are not online! #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @tarabenwell: Here is a student example: http://bit.ly/ii8dQq #ELTChat |
| 9:10 pm | bcnpaul1: | getting students to blog and then build relationships with other students who comment #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @ShellTerrell: I can’t help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat – I think that about a lot of things! |
| 9:10 pm | annabooklover: | Hello #eltchat friends! I think sts form their PLNs in conventional classrooms too! |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | @DinaDobrou I think they are all forms of PLN #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @harrisonmike: @annapires But, remember, you can take the horse to water… PLN-forming not for everybody? Nor should it be, really #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annabooklover: Hello #eltchat friends! I think sts form their PLNs in conventional classrooms too! > true |
| 9:10 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Shaunwilden @rliberni I don’t necessarily agree with naturally because it requires some maintenance & participation for it to work #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @annabooklover: Hello #eltchat friends! I think sts form their PLNs in conventional classrooms too! > true |
| 9:11 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @ShellTerrell: I can’t help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat – I think that about a lot of things! |
| 9:11 pm | harrisonmike: | I try to disseminate events I’m at (BC, ELT days, conferences) for staff at my college thru a blog. Not sure how many read tho #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | Shaunwilden: | @rliberni Thanks and I guess like us they can be connected internationally as well #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | fionamau: | RT @ShellTerrell: I can’t help but think it would be great to have a student perspective here #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | europeaantje: | I´ve never used the term PLN with my sts but I foster group cohesion,reflection on learning and they/we got the bar after class #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | annabooklover: | A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | merylvdm: | My own teens connect through online forums and Facebook – they share essays written for school, new technologies, educational sites #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | Shaunwilden: | @ShellTerrell So it requires the teacher to take part? #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: I´ve never used the term PLN with my sts but I foster group cohesion,reflection on learning and they/we got the bar after class #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | harrisonmike: | RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | Lemness: | Can i ask – what does #eltchat mean? |
| 9:11 pm | tarabenwell: | @katekidney Totally! EnglishClub has a Facebook page with thousands of learners worldwide. Many now practice English together.#ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni Especially if ur introducing them to the online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T’s part #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | rliberni: | @ShellTerrell I have to say to get my Gapfillers folk to do this takes a lot of ‘pushing’ but physically it may be easier #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Shaunwilden Not necessarily but I think it’s good if the student includes their teacher & wants to in their PLN #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | bcnpaul1: | A lot of our students study for only 3 hrs a week & I wonder how motivated they are outside of those 3 hrs to form a PLN #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | rliberni: | @Lemness English language teachers chat #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | NewsNeus: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great idea! RT @annapires: How about a school Facebook page? That’s what I do to share useful links & info with sts. #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | europeaantje: | RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat | yes! |
| 9:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Shaunwilden @rliberni Perhaps with some communities it takes a moderator or a few leaders to guide others? #ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | tarabenwell: | @europeaantje I hadn’t either, but then I thought PLN actually has a nice ring to it. They might like it! #ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: @europeaantje I hadn’t either, but then I thought PLN actually has a nice ring to it. They might like it! #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @bcnpaul1: A lot of students study for only 3 hrs a wk – how motivated they are outside of those 3 hrs to form PLN #eltchat>blogs help |
| 9:13 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @DinaDobrou: Especially if ur introducing them to the online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T’s part #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @europeaantje: RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat | yes! |
| 9:13 pm | EclipsingX: | #ELTCHAT my learners were shocked at the thought of facebook for ed. One told me he had closed all SM accounts because he =dlstracted |
| 9:13 pm | Shaunwilden: | @towittertoo we use epals between classes in our school network which is international, does that count? #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | fionamau: | RT @rliberni: @Shaunwilden personally I think a PLN is a group of learners who come together ‘naturally’ to learn so cld be within a class #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | harrisonmike: | @bcnpaul1 3hrs not enough to improve, IMO. Those sts HAVE TO do extra to succeed #eltchat But PLN or other info sources most useful?? |
| 9:13 pm | DinaDobrou: | @towittertoo @rliberni @Shaunwilden Hm, true. I was thinking of matching classes between the group of schools I work for. #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | europeaantje: | RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell So it requires the teacher to take part? #ELTChat | no. why? sts can support each other, too |
| 9:13 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @DinaDobrou: if ur introducing them to online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T’s part #ELTchat > and patience |
| 9:13 pm | Marisa_C: | @tarabenwell I think the term PLN kind of formalises sth and makes Ss more aware of the need to form it and maintain it #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: RT @Shaunwilden: @ShellTerrell So it requires the teacher to take part? #ELTChat | no. why? sts can support each other, too |
| 9:13 pm | tarabenwell: | @bcnpaul1 Maybe they need a group interest other than merely “learning English”. For example, learners who like music. #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | rliberni: | @ShellTerrell I think that is true a ot depends on the makeup of your group – mine are quite slow no real catalysts as yet #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cerirhiannon agree w/ the blogs comment. anything like that motivates them to direct their own learning is a great help #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | Lemness: | @rliberni thank u so much. Im not an english teacher but its fascinating to watch the interaction. #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | kmhmartin: | RT @europeaantje: RT @annabooklover: A PLN may be the friends you call with a question late in the evening, or the parent you ask for help #eltchat | yes! |
| 9:14 pm | kmhmartin: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @DinaDobrou: Especially if ur introducing them to the online idea of PLNs. It takes preparation on T’s part #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | rliberni: | @annapires I would think it might be a few members of a class – the class is a bit artificial #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 But isn’t the PLN participation part of studying? Maybe more meaningful than HMWK give by instructor? #ELTChat |
| 9:14 pm | oflazmerve: | RT @EclipsingX: less than 24 hours until the BC ELT bloggers reveal their intense 28 day experiences. Very excited! RU? #ECLPSCHAT #ELTCHAT #EDCHAT #ELT |
| 9:14 pm | tarabenwell: | @harrisonmike @bcnpaul1 Please invite them to MyEC. It’s free and fun and growing quickly! There’s something for everyone. #ELTChat |
| 9:14 pm | DinaDobrou: | Etwinning…a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | theteacherjames: | @Shaunwilden @shellterrell #eltchat …or need a teacher to get the ball rolling? |
| 9:14 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @ShellTerrell: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 But isn’t the PLN participation part of studying? Maybe more meaningful than HMWK give by instructor? #ELTChat |
| 9:14 pm | rliberni: | @Lemness no problem yes it must be from your perspective #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | annabooklover: | But let us not forget that there are kids who have neither parents who can help, nor internet, nor friends nearby. #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | europeaantje: | @bcnpaul1 sts are motivated to create “PLN” out of own interest: what do you do? how did you do this? what was the homework? #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annabooklover: But let us not forget that there are kids who have neither parents who can help, nor internet, nor friends nearby. #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @theteacherjames: @Shaunwilden @shellterrell #eltchat …or need a teacher to get the ball rolling? |
| 9:15 pm | Teacherhorizons: | @Lemness @rliberni I completely agree #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 sts are motivated to create “PLN” out of own interest: what do you do? how did you do this? what was the homework? #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 sts are motivated to create “PLN” out of own interest: what do you do? how did you do this? what was the homework? #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | bcnpaul1: | @ShellTerrell @cerirhiannon true but sometimes hmwk is a start along the path to greater involvement in their own learning #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | katekidney: | http://www.helpforenglish.cz/ this is a kind of PLN for Czech and even other students, thanks to Marek Vít and his coworkers!#ELTChat |
| 9:15 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: Students need to be motivated to form their PLN. Not all teachers are motivated to form their own. #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | merylvdm: | I teach a Media class and this semester they are all required to blog – and I am encouraging them to comment on each other’s. #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | Lemness: | I will just lurk and listen. RT @Teacherhorizons: @Lemness @rliberni I completely agree #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | ShellTerrell: | @bcnpaul1 @cerirhiannon Many teachers who aren’t using PLNs like us don’t give this kind of hmwk they give wkshts & drills #Eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | rliberni: | @DinaDobrou good idea & there will probably be some who gravitate towards a subgrp and want to meet online? #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | bcnpaul1: | @tarabenwell thanks Tara. I’ll have a look after this #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @bcnpaul1: @ShellTerrell @cerirhiannon sometimes hmwk is a start along the path to greater involvement #eltchat> shared hwk tasks helps |
| 9:16 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @rliberni: @DinaDobrou good idea & there will probably be some who gravitate towards a subgrp and want to meet online? #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | tarabenwell: | @Marisa_C Agreed! When I challenged them to identify their PLN, some worried about leaving people out. I learned. #ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat my experience is that the groups that have a ‘social English’ element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN. |
| 9:16 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @merylvdm: I teach a Media class and this semester they are all required to blog – and I am encouraging them to comment on each other’s. #ELTchat |
| 9:16 pm | europeaantje: | RT @annapires: Can a class form a PLN? Or does it have to an individual thing? #ELTchat | ideally a class would be a PLN ??? |
| 9:16 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @katekidney: http://www.helpforenglish.cz/ this is a kind of PLN for Czech and even other students, thanks to Marek Vít and his coworkers!#ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | bcnpaul1: | @ShellTerrell true. And it’s a real shame #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | treeves: | @fionamau so true #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 point! RT @annapires: Students need to be motivated to form their PLN. Not all teachers are motivated to form their own. #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat … ‘social English’ element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN. > social element can also be online |
| 9:17 pm | annabooklover: | RT @DinaDobrou: Etwinning…a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | tarabenwell: | RT @merylvdm: I teach a Media class and this semester they are all required to blog – and I am encouraging them to comment on each other’s. #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | bcnpaul1: | @ShellTerrell how do you get your students involved in forming a PLN? #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 point! RT @annapires: Students need to be motivated to form their PLN. Not all teachers are motivated to form their own. #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @DinaDobrou: Etwinning…a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat for example summer intensive classes that have a coffee break ‘across the road’, or Friday drink after class |
| 9:17 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @bcnpaul1: @ShellTerrell how do you get your students involved in forming a PLN? #eltchat Yes do tell am curious |
| 9:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | Really good question! RT @bcnpaul1: how do you get your students involved in forming a PLN? #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | tarabenwell: | @merylvdm Great! If you can let them know that commenting is equally important right from the beginning, they will thrive! #ELTChat |
| 9:18 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: Can a class form a PLN? Or does it have to an individual thing? #ELTchat | ideally a class would be a PLN ??? |
| 9:18 pm | europeaantje: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat my experience is that the groups that have a ‘social English’ element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN. |
| 9:18 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @annapires: Can a class form a PLN? Or does it have to an individual thing? #ELTchat | ideally a class would be a PLN ??? |
| 9:18 pm | rliberni: | @bcnpaul1 @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden mine sign up on my site then I make opps for them to meet #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | hermonhermit: | RT @DinaDobrou: Etwinning…a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat |
| 9:18 pm | harrisonmike: | #eltchat PLN would be a very difficult concept and the tools would be tricky for ESOL students (e.g. asylum seekers) |
| 9:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Shaunwilden @bcnpaul1 Honestly I motivate them to join established communities like Gapfillers, Voxopop, & My English Club #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | EclipsingX: | @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I am trying a non pressure blog approach. each has their own and they research when and how they want to. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:19 pm | DinaDobrou: | @rliberni We already have that in my school. I’m working on bringing it online. #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | harrisonmike: | #eltchat many tools and sites that we use to form and maintain PLN are very ‘busy’. That would overwhelm some sts. |
| 9:19 pm | cerirhiannon: | @bcnpaul1 @annapires or class would be starting point4 PLN – icontact could be taken beyond the class eg via sharing blogs #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @ShellTerrell: @Shaunwilden @bcnpaul1 Honestly I motivate them to join established communities like Gapfillers, Voxopop, & My English Club #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | rliberni: | @cerirhiannon I think a class is put together & I think a PLN has to find it’s own identity there has to b a common link #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | tarabenwell: | @ShellTerrell @bcnpaul1 Model! Tell them about your PLN (give real examples). E.g. I got invited to present at a conference…#ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | harrisonmike: | #eltchat Perhaps start with something like @cerirhiannon‘s emailing members of the class to support each other? |
| 9:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 idea! RT @EclipsingX: I am trying a non pressure blog approach. each has their own they research when & how they want to. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:19 pm | treeves: | @Shaunwilden one way is to demonstrate our own #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | cerirhiannon: | @rliberni sometimes being a class that studies together can be the common link? #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | rliberni: | @cerirhiannon I think if there was an opp for class members to form an online group not all wld want to so a PLN wld emerge #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | springrose12: | @fionamau ) I completely agree:) Let’s hope that our 12 to 15 yr olds are NOT building their PLN this way:) Imagine the hangover #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | I like this! RT @cerirhiannon: sometimes being a class that studies together can be the common link? #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | harrisonmike: | Ok, fascinating #eltchat as ever. Enjoy everyone. I have one question though: Where is @olafelch??? |
| 9:20 pm | DinaDobrou: | I introduced my sts to ‘online interaction’ through sth simple (wallwishers) and recently moved some of them to blogging. #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cerirhiannon: @rliberni sometimes being a class that studies together can be the common link? #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annapires: When we talk about student PLN’s, what age group? Adults? Teens? #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @treeves: @Shaunwilden one way is to demonstrate our own #eltchat – yes good point |
| 9:20 pm | bcnpaul1: | @tarabenwell does that work.? #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @DinaDobrou: I introduced my sts to ‘online interaction’ through sth simple (wallwishers) and recently moved some of them to blogging. #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat Do we think that creating a successful class PLN may be a side effect of successfully creating rapport among the students? |
| 9:21 pm | annabooklover: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat my experience is that the groups that have a ‘social English’ element in a bar once a week r the ones that form a PLN. |
| 9:21 pm | rliberni: | @cerirhiannon this is true but I think it would be more of a starting point #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | europeaantje: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Do we think that creating a successful class PLN may be a side effect of successfully creating rapport among the students? |
| 9:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | @DinaDobrou I do that too! They like that! They also enjoy meeting other students via Skype & keeping in touch with them #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | katekidney: | Does anyone work with Wiki with their students?#ELTChat |
| 9:21 pm | europeaantje: | @theteacherjames we do! #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Do we think that creating a successful class PLN may be a side effect of successfully creating rapport among the students? |
| 9:21 pm | web20education: | Pls add feedback,share , rt Building a powerfull #PLN in XXI Century Education #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat #cck11 #COSN11 http://t.co/a2c20Qa |
| 9:21 pm | Shaunwilden: | Did we get anywhere with a eltstudent chat idea that came up a cple of weeks ago i guess that would count as well, wouldn’t it? #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @annapires: When we talk about student PLN’s, what age group? Adults? Teens? #ELTchat > I do both. edublogs for adults kidblog for YLs. |
| 9:21 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @rliberni: @cerirhiannon I think a class is put together & I think a PLN has to find it’s own identity there has to b a common link #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | @cerirhiannon if the whole class worked together on everything then it would be a gr8 PLN #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @annapires: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | tarabenwell: | Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | fionamau: | @springrose12 teehee. #eltchat I usually start teen classes in the waiting area, tho, not in the classroom. Similar effect, curiously. |
| 9:22 pm | Marisa_C: | @Shaunwilden No we didn’t but @chucksandy and others still keen and asking for help – we got to do that #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: @cerirhiannon @bcnpaul1 I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs.> agree #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | juandoming: | RT @web20education: Pls add feedback,share , rt Building a powerfull #PLN in XXI Century Education #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat #cck11 #COSN11 http://t.co/a2c20Qa |
| 9:22 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annapires: I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | cerirhiannon: | @rliberni I had one class that did – was an amazing experience – haven’t had a chance to repeat it yet! #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | juandoming: | RT @tarabenwell: Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat |
| 9:23 pm | EclipsingX: | @ShellTerrell #ELTCHAT when the learners are ready they can tell me if they want to. I have also taught them how to do HTML code embedding |
| 9:23 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: Another student example. Describing his PLN using acrostic poetry. http://tinyurl.com/4ut4cxt #ELTChat |
| 9:23 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @annapires: I think doing things as a group first can help motivate sts to form their own PLNs. #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | katekidney: | @theteacherjames YES! ) #ELTChat |
| 9:23 pm | rliberni: | @cerirhiannon I guess it depends on the characters. Often a PLN will have a catalyst or two #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @fionamau: @springrose12 teehee. #eltchat I usually start teen classes in the waiting area, tho, not in the classroom. Similar effect, curiously. |
| 9:23 pm | tarabenwell: | @bcnpaul1 It helps me introduce learners to power of FB, twitter, blogs. I think sts like to know that you are learning too! #ELTChat |
| 9:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: @bcnpaul1 It helps me introduce learners to power of FB, twitter, blogs. I think sts like to know that you are learning too! #ELTChat |
| 9:24 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother’s blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9 |
| 9:24 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @rliberni: @cerirhiannon I guess it depends on the characters. Often a PLN will have a catalyst or two #eltchat > or 3 or 4 |
| 9:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother’s blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9 |
| 9:24 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat @annapires @shellterrell I’ve seen it works for adults (before I even knew what a PLN was!) |
| 9:24 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother’s blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9 |
| 9:24 pm | ShellTerrell: | @naomishema Sorry we’re talking about students & developing PLNs #ELTChat |
| 9:25 pm | tarabenwell: | @harrisonmike They can start in a community by just lurking. #ELTChat |
| 9:25 pm | EclipsingX: | @ShellTerrell #ELTCHAT wlth HTML & widgets they really start wanting to learn on the net beyond ENG.) |
| 9:25 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: @harrisonmike They can start in a community by just lurking. #ELTChat |
| 9:25 pm | cerirhiannon: | let ss know that I learn from them, need them 4course to be a success – ithat they’re part of my PLN -it’s a good starting point 2 #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | fionamau: | RT @harrisonmike: Ok, fascinating #eltchat as ever. Enjoy everyone. I have one question though: Where is @olafelch??? |
| 9:25 pm | ShellTerrell: | #eltchat @DinaDobrou: I believe there is a hashtag #Comment4ELT ? |
| 9:26 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @tarabenwell: @harrisonmike They can start in a community by just lurking. #ELTChat > yes, it may take time but this Ok |
| 9:26 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ShellTerrell And how can we #ELTchat.ers have our sts comment on eachother’s blogs? Can we have a community like this? http://bit.ly/7njlS9 |
| 9:26 pm | tarabenwell: | RT @cerirhiannon: let ss know that I learn from them, need them 4course to be a success – ithat they’re part of my PLN -it’s a good starting point 2 #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | europeaantje: | RT @cerirhiannon: let ss know that I learn from them, need them 4course to be a success – ithat they’re part of my PLN -it’s a good starting point 2 #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ShellTerrell I didn’t know. Thanks for telling me. Will look into it. #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @tarabenwell: @harrisonmike #ELTChat > yes, it may take time but this Ok > good to tell them that you value lurking too |
| 9:27 pm | europeaantje: | @cerirhiannon explore things together, use sts in experiments, … )) #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | rliberni: | Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | tarabenwell: | @ShellTerrell @DinaDobrou Is that a hashtag for teachers or learners? #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | Marisa_C: | @cerirhiannon Indeed! Just like sitting back and listening is also learning #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: @cerirhiannon explore things together, use sts in experiments, … )) #eltchat > yup, the Hawthorne syndrome |
| 9:27 pm | ShellTerrell: | @tarabenwell @DinaDobrou It’s for anyone to comment on student work #ELtchat |
| 9:28 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cerirhiannon yes – lurking is the best way to find your feet and see how it can work for you #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @rliberni: Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | europeaantje: | RT @rliberni: Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat | blog, VLE such as moodle |
| 9:28 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @rliberni: Does anybody offer an online space to complement their classroom work? #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon Indeed! Just like sitting back and listening is also learning #ELTChat > absolutely &listeners are important 2! |
| 9:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | @rliberni Had the wiki which is great to show student work & this year I want to try Edmodo for PLN #ELTchat |
| 9:28 pm | MarcelleMcGhee: | #eltchat maybe u can start PLN on a small scale, btw classes. Test it out, tweak any oops that comes up. Then PLN btw schools etc.. |
| 9:28 pm | EclipsingX: | @rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT |
| 9:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @EclipsingX: @rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT |
| 9:28 pm | bcnpaul1: | @rliberni I would like to do more of it, but at the moment all classroom / blog / wiki-based #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | @MarcelleMcGhee Great idea! #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | rliberni: | @ShellTerrell wikis are great #eltchat or a class blog to start with |
| 9:29 pm | Teacherhorizons: | @DinaDobrou @rliberni you could create a blog and show on there #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | Marisa_C: | From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time – not everything at once #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @MarcelleMcGhee: #eltchat maybe u can start PLN on a small scale, btw classes. Test it out, tweak any oops that comes up. Then PLN btw schools etc.. |
| 9:29 pm | europeaantje: | @ShellTerrell @rliberni Edmodo great online communication tool #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: RT @rliberni: anybody offer online space 2complement classwork? #eltchat | blog, VLE such as moodle> blog, group emails |
| 9:29 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time – not everything at once #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat So correct me if I’m wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group – encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc? |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time – not everything at once #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time – not everything at once #ELTchat > totally, take it gently |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @europeaantje: Edmodo great online communication tool #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I’m wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group – encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc? |
| 9:29 pm | rliberni: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I’m wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group – encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc? |
| 9:29 pm | annabooklover: | RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time – not everything at once #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @rliberni: wikis are great #eltchat or a class blog to start with |
| 9:29 pm | Fonts4Teachers: | @rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I’m wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group – encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc? |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | @theteacherjames yes, that but really another space to learn #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time – not everything at once #ELTchat > follow students’ lead |
| 9:30 pm | ShellTerrell: | What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | bcnpaul1: | collaborizeclassroom is a nice one to use for building student PLNs #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | annabooklover: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat So correct me if I’m wrong, but are we seeing a student PLN as a kind of support group – encouraging, cajoling, sharing ideas etc? |
| 9:30 pm | tarabenwell: | @Marisa_C @cerirhiannon @kalinagoenglish made that really important point here about chat rooms: http://tinyurl.com/48gtout #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | ulrikajonson: | RT @EclipsingX: @rliberni yes students are naturally curious and want to meet others but not necessarily in their own classroom but wider #ELTCHAT |
| 9:30 pm | EclipsingX: | @ShellTerrell could you explain more about EDMODO #ELTCHAT |
| 9:30 pm | ShellTerrell: | @theteacherjames definitely a major part of it but also language needs to be practiced with others outside the class #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | NorthernGrid: | RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | @Fonts4Teachers this is true and they may want to explore areas that we as teachers don’t have time in class to exploit #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think try one thing each time-not everything at once #ELTchat>Yup, so much to do so little time |
| 9:31 pm | ShellTerrell: | @EclipsingX It’s like Twitter but you can attach links, files, & make it private #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | Marisa_C: | Or group Ss around one tool & have them work on it for a bit – makes everyone curious & excited abt what others are doing #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | yohimar: | True RT @Marisa_C: From my own experience I think if you can, try one thing each time – not everything at once #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: @Marisa_C @cerirhiannon @kalinagoenglish made that really important point here about chat rooms: http://tinyurl.com/48gtout #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: Or group Ss around one tool & have them work on it for a bit – makes everyone curious & excited abt what others are doing #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | harrisonmike: | Ok, get them lurking 1st. But pln still difficult concept with sts who try to move mouse cursor by lifting the mouse! #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | katekidney: | To sum up:at what age may be used what PLN online tools? Is it written somewhere?#ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | EclipsingX: | RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat yes pls where 2 find learners |
| 9:31 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @harrisonmike: Ok, get them lurking 1st. But pln still difficult concept with sts who try to move mouse cursor by lifting the mouse! #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | tarabenwell: | @ShellTerrell #twinglish is a useful one for developing PLN. If students use twitter in their own language first it helps. #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | rliberni: | @harrisonmike Lol #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | bcnpaul1: | obvious beauty in student PLN is that it’s using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @harrisonmike: pln still difficult concept with sts who try to move mouse cursor by lifting the mouse! #eltchat > I hear you! |
| 9:32 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: @ShellTerrell #twinglish is a useful one for developing PLN. If students use twitter in their own language first it helps. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: @ShellTerrell #twinglish is a useful one for developing PLN. If students use twitter in their own language first it helps. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | MarcelleMcGhee: | #eltchat like idea of PLN as support group. Many kids feel on the “outside” or r too shy or afraid to communicate” at sch. |
| 9:32 pm | HeikePhilp: | @ShellTerrell Twitter of course but also to join oneself to existiing networks, i.e NING sites #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: obvious beauty in student PLN is that it’s using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: Or group Ss around 1 tool & have them work on it – makes everyone curious & excited abt what others are doing #ELTchat >GR8! |
| 9:32 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great idea! RT @heikephilp: Twitter of course but also to join oneself to existiing networks, i.e NING sites #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | @bcnpaul1 yes, so therefore is a very powerful learning tool #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @bcnpaul1: obvious beauty in student PLN is that it’s using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great idea! RT @heikephilp: Twitter of course but also to join oneself to existiing networks, i.e NING sites #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | cerirhiannon: | has anyone used twiducate? don’t know it myself #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | annabooklover: | #eltchat is always so illuminating but also makes me feel a bit sad at how little I can do…one thing at a time Anna |
| 9:33 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1: obvious beauty in student PLN is that it’s using language 4 a real real-world purpose (which is essentially why they study english) #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | EclipsingX: | @ShellTerrell thanks so many things to explore! #ELTCHAT .) |
| 9:33 pm | web20education: | #Sophia – New Platform Uses Social Features To Improve Online #Education . Make Here #PLN #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat http://ning.it/e8j1ga |
| 9:33 pm | rliberni: | @erinneo does it act as a communication space too? #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat @ShellTerrell @rliberni I see. So it’s an extension of our idea of a teacher’s PLN, with a whole practical element. |
| 9:33 pm | rliberni: | RT @web20education: #Sophia – New Platform Uses Social Features To Improve Online #Education . Make Here #PLN #edtech20 #edchat #eltchat http://ning.it/e8j1ga |
| 9:33 pm | Marisa_C: | @cerirhiannon I ve used twiducate with trainees new to twitter – @VictoriaB52 has used with her ss #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @annabooklover: #eltchat one thing at a time is the best way forward or it gets too overwhelming |
| 9:34 pm | rliberni: | @theteacherjames I would say so #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon I ve used twiducate with trainees new to twitter – @VictoriaB52 has used with her ss #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | tarabenwell: | 17,000 on EC’s FB page if your sts prefer Facebook. A good place for a starter PLN: http://tinyurl.com/ma48w7 #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: 17,000 on EC’s FB page if your sts prefer Facebook. A good place for a starter PLN: http://tinyurl.com/ma48w7 #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: 17,000 on EC’s FB page if your sts prefer Facebook. A good place for a starter PLN: http://tinyurl.com/ma48w7 #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | theteacherjames: | Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @annabooklover: #eltchat one thing at a time is the best way forward or it gets too overwhelming > 4 Ts and Ss alike |
| 9:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @theteacherjames: Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | EclipsingX: | @annabooklover the important thing is to have clear goals and do that one little thing bit by bit.) #ELTCHAT |
| 9:35 pm | europeaantje: | RT @theteacherjames: Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | DinaDobrou: | @EclipsingX My list of web2.0 tools is already endless & sometimes overwhelming but it’s good to know you have tricks up ur sleeve! #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | Marisa_C: | @theteacherjames Connect with other teachers and may be create a small network with group.ly or grou.ps ? #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | ShellTerrell: | @theteacherjames For adults it’s gr8 2 find social netwks involving their interests, work like LinkedIn Architect/lawyer/etc group #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | EclipsingX: | @theteacherjames edublogs also has an individual student option #ELTCHAT |
| 9:36 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @theteacherjames: RT @ShellTerrell: What are the most effective tools, networks, for language learners to develop PLNs? #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | springrose12: | @harrisonmike incredible, you’ve Ss like that..We can’t take the blackberries out of our Ss hands.They’re stuck to their hands. #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | erinneo: | @rliberni Yes, the communication is school based, so discussion forums for questions, or sharing links. Not much after school use. #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | @theteacherjames my site is for adults & mostly at upper int/adv level it’s slow going but we’re getting there ppl getting involved #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | europeaantje: | mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences? |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | @erinneo are they students or teachers? #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences? |
| 9:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences? |
| 9:37 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences? |
| 9:37 pm | tarabenwell: | My dream is for English teachers to join MyEC with their learners. As it stands now it is mainly disconnected learners. #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: My dream is for English teachers to join MyEC with their learners. As it stands now it is mainly disconnected learners. #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | europeaantje: | @bcnpaul1 what´s collaborizeclassroom, Paul? #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | Shaunwilden: | @tarabenwell Have you tried to encourage teachers to do this? #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @europeaantje: mentioned so far: blogs, e-mails, VLE, #twinglish, Facebook, Twitter, collaborizeclassroom, Edmodo #eltchat preferences? |
| 9:38 pm | rliberni: | @tarabenwell mine too I’d love schools to take it on and then the community could really grow and develop #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | tarabenwell: | Or if they want a PLN of Skypers: http://my.englishclub.com/group/skypers #ELTChat |
| 9:38 pm | europeaantje: | oh and the bar on the corner #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | Marisa_C: | @europeaantje Thank you sir for summarising points #twinglish #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | rliberni: | RT @tarabenwell: Or if they want a PLN of Skypers: http://my.englishclub.com/group/skypers #ELTChat |
| 9:38 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 what´s collaborizeclassroom, Paul? #ELTchat Is it this ? http://bit.ly/ej3oGa |
| 9:38 pm | ShellTerrell: | In order for our students to develop a true PLN shouldn’t we encourage them to include professional peers as well? #ELTChat |
| 9:38 pm | springrose12: | @harrisonmike They can even text under the desks without seeing the letters. I suppose they can feel and smell mobile phones now. #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @europeaantje: @bcnpaul1 what´s collaborizeclassroom, Paul? #ELTchat Is it this ? http://bit.ly/ej3oGa |
| 9:38 pm | europeaantje: | @Marisa_C I´m not trying to get a job or anything #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tarabenwell: Or if they want a PLN of Skypers: http://my.englishclub.com/group/skypers #ELTChat |
| 9:38 pm | bcnpaul1: | @europeaantje http://bit.ly/ej3oGa it’s a way of setting up private discussion forums for your sts / anyone who’s a member. #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | EclipsingX: | RT @DinaDobrou: @EclipsingX its like learning teaching all over again exhausting but very exciting! #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @Marisa_C: Connect with other teachers and may be create a small network with group.ly or grou.ps ? #eltchat – Great idea – thanks! |
| 9:39 pm | Marisa_C: | @europeaantje No? You disappoint me…:-) #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @europeaantje: @Marisa_C I´m not trying to get a job or anything #eltchat We’re looking for volunteers |
| 9:39 pm | rliberni: | @ShellTerrell yes and what a great place to network internationally #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | katekidney: | Maybe the easier online PLN the better +certainly one at a time. I’ve started with Facebook gr and blogs, think about Wiki.#eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @ShellTerrell: For adults it’s gr8 2 find social netwks involving their interests, work like LinkedIn Architect/lawyer/etc group #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | rliberni: | RT @katekidney: Maybe the easier online PLN the better +certainly one at a time. I’ve started with Facebook gr and blogs, think about Wiki.#eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | cerirhiannon: | has the chat frozen or is it just my tweetdeck? #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | LucyBlakemore: | RT @NavitarDiaries: The Navitar Diaries: Exploring with the blue bird http://t.co/AJX2Prp #eltchat #whoisnavitar |
| 9:43 pm | annabooklover: | Great ideas as always, looking forward to the transcript #eltchat. Goodnight friends… |
| 9:44 pm | nikosdt: | RT @DinaDobrou Etwinning…a community for schools in Europe. http://bit.ly/7njlS9 #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | DinaDobrou: | @cerirhiannon My tweetdeck froze too! #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | anrgon: | Institutional VLE vs. Informal PLN? PLN in and out the classroom? Online vs. offline PLN? #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @cerirhiannon: has the chat frozen or is it just my tweetdeck? #eltchat Not sure but was wondering the same |
| 9:44 pm | web20education: | In 2 days I will launch a #PLN topic with thousounds of #edtools to use to build a passionate learning network #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt |
| 9:44 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @cerirhiannon: has the chat frozen? #eltchat Not sure but was wondering the same > seems to be back again |
| 9:44 pm | europeaantje: | #eltchat too much for #tweetdeck |
| 9:45 pm | harrisonmike: | @springrose12 lol! I teach some sts who have been in this country for 10+ years but still can’t read or write English… #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @europeaantje: #eltchat too much for #tweetdeck LOL we burnt the house down! |
| 9:48 pm | erinneo: | @rliberni Both. There are spaces for teachers, spaces for students, and shared spaces. #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | bcnpaul1: | My tweetdeck frozen #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | bcnpaul1: | @shaunwilden @cerirhiannon everyone is speechless (or having a crafty beer) #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @cerirhiannon: has the chat frozen or is it just my tweetdeck? #eltchat it has |
| 9:49 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @bcnpaul1: My tweetdeck frozen #eltchat > Mine too. Can’t see anything new. nice to see your tweet come up! lol |
| 9:50 pm | cerirhiannon: | yeah! it’s back ) #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat So what do u reckon’s main ‘ingredient’ in getting studentPLN 2work? I reckon they have 2 LIKE each other – how do we nurture that? |
| 9:50 pm | web20education: | Teacher Training for Web 2.0 #edtech20 #elearning #socialmedia #web20chat #eltchat #edchat #edreform #cck11 #cosn11 http://scr.bi/gfU3RW |
| 9:51 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat Are we back? |
| 9:51 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1:@shaunwilden @cerirhiannon everyone is speechless (or having a crafty beer) #eltchat >Hey! How can you see me? My webcam’s off! |
| 9:51 pm | bcnpaul1: | where were we then? #eltchat Student PLNs – if blended learning courses were offered to YLs, they’d be really successful IMO #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat … they have 2 LIKE each other..> or respect each other, and have sth interesting to say, we can nurture thru convo |
| 9:51 pm | europeaantje: | my favourite places to help start st PLN: inworld: classroom & the bar; online: Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Are we back? Seems some of us are |
| 9:51 pm | web20education: | In 2 days I will launch a #PLN topic with thousounds of #edtools to use to build a passionate learning network #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt |
| 9:52 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @bcnpaul1: where were we then? #eltchat Student PLNs – if blended learning courses were offered to YLs, they’d be really successful IMO #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | bcnpaul1: | @fionamau Just a wild guess #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | rliberni: | @erinneo sounds good #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: my favourite places to help start st PLN: inworld: classroom & the bar; online: Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | rliberni: | RT @web20education: In 2 days I will launch a #PLN topic with thousounds of #edtools to use to build a passionate learning network #edchat #eltchat #efl #elt |
| 9:52 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat So what do u reckon’s main ‘ingredient’ in getting studentPLN 2work? I reckon they have 2 LIKE each other – how do we nurture that? |
| 9:52 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @europeaantje: my favourite places to help start st PLN….Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat must give it a try |
| 9:52 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Are we back? Seems some of us are |
| 9:53 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @katekidney: Maybe the easier online PLN the better +certainly one at a time. I’ve started with Facebook gr and blogs, think about Wiki.#eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | harrisonmike: | @EclipsingX True. But they need to read to sign up for all these web tools. That can be so convoluted sometimes #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @europeaantje: my favourite places to help start st PLN….Posterous blog (will embed any web2 application) #eltchat must give it a try |
| 9:53 pm | europeaantje: | @Shaunwilden sts can post via e-mail on Posterous. so easy #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | ELTExperiences: | Training learners is essential for YLs for blended learning. This is an essential read from @NikPeachey – http://scr.bi/dG7dj9 #ELTChat |
| 9:53 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Are we back? Seems some of us are |
| 9:53 pm | cerirhiannon: | sharing’s important -be ready to make the first move – lead by example – show enthusiasm – *contagious enthusiasm* #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @cerirhiannon: sharing’s important -be ready to make the first move – lead by example – show enthusiasm – *contagious enthusiasm* #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | bcnpaul1: | @europeaantje would you recommend posterous blog. i’ve been thinking about doing it #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | EclipsingX: | @fionamau showing them your PLN and what you get from it #ELTCHAT |
| 9:53 pm | Shaunwilden: | @europeaantje Yes i have used it briefly need to explore it more, a lot of people seem to use it for its ease #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: @europeaantje would you recommend posterous blog. i’ve been thinking about doing it #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: @europeaantje classroom & blog sound like a good starting point to me! #eltchat > me too |
| 9:54 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @cerirhiannon: sharing’s important -be ready to make the first move – lead by example – show enthusiasm – contagious enthusiasm #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @annapires: @europeaantje classroom & blog sound like a good starting point to me! #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | ShellTerrell: | @europeaantje And Posterous has a very easy free mobile app to accompany it! #ELTChat |
| 9:54 pm | Marisa_C: | @cerirhiannon So right – T has to be a good role moderl – as a member of a PLN and as a learner too! #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: @europeaantje And Posterous has a very easy free mobile app to accompany it! #ELTChat |
| 9:54 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @cerirhiannon sharing’s important -be ready to make the first move – lead by example – show enthusiasm – *contagious enthusiasm* #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @cerirhiannon So right – T has to be a good role moderl – as a member of a PLN and as a learner too! #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @cerirhiannon sharing’s important -be ready to make the first move – lead by example – show enthusiasm – *contagious enthusiasm* #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | europeaantje: | @Shaunwilden I started using it for its ease, then turns out to be the only platform to take near all embed code )) #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @annapires: @europeaantje classroom & blog sound like a good starting point to me! #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | Shaunwilden: | @europeaantje Ta shall have a play with it #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | fionamau: | RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? Ope? (cont) http://deck.ly/~TV0Jx |
| 9:55 pm | cerirhiannon: | @europeaantje @Shaunwilden beats blogger? #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: Telling students about our own PLN, how we use it and what we learn from it. #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | bcnpaul1: | @ShellTerrell can you get in on blackberry? (the posterous app) #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | rliberni: | RT @fionamau: RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? Ope? (cont) http://deck.ly/~TV0Jx |
| 9:56 pm | harrisonmike: | Seen awesome use of posters 4 pln/celta trainees kccelta.posters.com. @cathywint also told me of success w her sts #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | Marisa_C: | @Shaunwilden need to learn more abt it – any tutorials u know of? #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | fionamau: | @siwels196 #eltchat For a PLN to actually gel well and have a long life I think they have to like each other. Respect etc goes only so far |
| 9:56 pm | rliberni: | RT @harrisonmike: Seen awesome use of posters 4 pln/celta trainees kccelta.posters.com. @cathywint also told me of success w her sts #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? >no, respect, yes |
| 9:57 pm | europeaantje: | @cerirhiannon @Shaunwilden would say so. you´d love it too. post be e-mail )) #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | web20education: | You can read more about #PLN #edtools here http://goo.gl/fb/ODXb8 #edchat #eltchat #cck11 #COSN11 #web20chat #lrnchat #SXSW #SXSWi #ntchat |
| 9:57 pm | Shaunwilden: | @Marisa_C No, will look after chat and set myself the goal of playing with it for the next few days #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | harrisonmike: | #eltchat that should be kccelta.posterous.com. silly predictive phone! |
| 9:57 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @harrisonmike: Seen awesome use of posters 4 pln/celta trainees kccelta.posters.com. @cathywint also told me of success w her sts #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Marisa_C: Social group theory still applies to group forming of PLN’s #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: @siwels196 #eltchat For a PLN to actually gel well and have a long life I think they have to like each other |
| 9:57 pm | rliberni: | RT @harrisonmike: #eltchat that should be kccelta.posterous.com. silly predictive phone! |
| 9:58 pm | springrose12: | @fionamau @siwels196 @ShellTerrell Yes, at least I have to:) If you don’t like the other person, you can’t focus on learning #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @Shaunwilden Have been playing with a posterous blog but that about all #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | rliberni: | RT @cerirhiannon: RT @fionamau: @siwels196 #eltchat For a PLN to actually gel well and have a long life I think they have to like each other |
| 9:58 pm | fionamau: | RT @springrose12: @fionamau @siwels196 @ShellTerrell Yes, at least I have to:) If you don’t like the other person, you can’t focus on learning #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | cerirhiannon: | @europeaantje @Shaunwilden sold !! LLOLL #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | dhsands: | RT @theteacherjames: Would love to hear ideas for individual adults to be able to create a meaningful PLN experience. #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | ShellTerrell: | @springrose12 @siwels196 I agree with @cerirhiannon that respecting each other & being open to possibilities #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | fionamau: | RT @siwels196: @fionamau I am at the high school level and I get concerned about groupthink #eltchat #studentpln |
| 9:59 pm | siwels196: | #eltchat ok ok ok I see your point – can you see mine about groupthink? |
| 9:59 pm | harrisonmike: | @EclipsingX I think that would get so confusing. Plus some of the higher level sts are still actually lower level ict literate #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat Can we help the sts like each other? Start a new class with rapport building activities? |
| 9:59 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @fionamau: RT @siwels196: @fionamau I am at the high school level and I get concerned about groupthink #eltchat #studentpln |
| 10:00 pm | europeaantje: | @rliberni @cerirhiannon @fionamau @siwels196 I teach my sts to work together regardless. will happen in workplace, too #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | fionamau: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Can we help the sts like each other? Start a new class with rapport building activities? >>I think this is key |
| 10:00 pm | bcnpaul1: | gonna have to say goodnight everyone. Thx for another great #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | rliberni: | RT @europeaantje: @rliberni @cerirhiannon @fionamau @siwels196 I teach my sts to work together regardless. will happen in workplace, too #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @europeaantje: @rliberni @cerirhiannon @fionamau @siwels196 I teach my sts to work together regardless. will happen in workplace, too #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | ShellTerrell: | Thank you everyone for a great #ELTChat & moderators to add to your PLN @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @rliberni |
| 10:01 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @ShellTerrell: Thank you everyone for a great #ELTChat & moderators to add to your PLN @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @rliberni |
| 10:01 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @ShellTerrell: Thank you everyone for a great #ELTChat & moderators to add to your PLN @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @rliberni, & You, Shelly! |
| 10:01 pm | siwels196: | #eltchat which comes first respect or firendship |
| 10:01 pm | cerirhiannon: | had a vegan and a bullfighter in the same class – they didn’t *like* each other, but were happy to learn from/with each other #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | harrisonmike: | Question: were you a student living in a foreign country learning the language, would you be able to start a pln? #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | fionamau: | RT @europeaantje: @rliberni @cerirhiannon @siwels196 Yes, but motivation,. dedication is different. A sort of affectove filter #eltchat |
| 10:02 pm | Marisa_C: | An #ELTchat with some hiccoughs – Twitter fail, riots outside my door – Sirk Ken Robinson giving a great talk.? (cont) http://deck.ly/~o1yaa |
| 10:02 pm | europeaantje: | @fionamau that´s another #eltchat! |
| 10:02 pm | web20education: | Schools Use Digital Tools to Customize Education #edtech20 #edtools #edchat #eltchat #ntchat http://bit.ly/dP3plA |
| 10:02 pm | rliberni: | Yes don’t forget to follow everyone on the #eltchat thnx to fab PLN mods @Marisa_C @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden Over and out ! |
| 10:02 pm | theteacherjames: | @harrisonmike #eltchat Great question – maybe with classmates, but tough. Teacher needs to encourage & facilitate. |
| 10:03 pm | coolpapajase: | I am a high school senior, and I have met many collegebound seniors on forums. We are from all over the world, it’s great! #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | DinaDobrou: | @harrisonmike I’d know where to start: Twitter! I’d find ppl interested in same things as me I guess. #ELTchat |
| 10:03 pm | Shaunwilden: | Don’t forget we’re looking for volunteers http://bit.ly/i2gRbm #eltchat – thks all, got to go finish some work…&have a look at posterous |
| 10:03 pm | cerirhiannon: | I don’t necessarily know all the members of my PLN very well, or agree with everything they say – they’re still valuable members #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | Marisa_C: | And thanks to these great moderators – @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | springrose12: | @harrisonmike No…I had friends from my language school to go out though:) Social network..I didn’t call PLN #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | fionamau: | RT @siwels196: #eltchat which comes first respect or firendship: In the classroom respect, but for learnin? (cont) http://deck.ly/~GkdGs |
| 10:03 pm | dhsands: | @ShellTerrell @bcnpaul1 Form one yourself, show them how it is of value, and help them find the value in it for them. #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | cybraryman1: | And thanks to these great moderators – @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni @Marisa_C: #eltchat |
| 10:04 pm | unlkpotential: | RT @nancyrubin: Commenting and Moderating are Higher Order Thinking Skills – Check out Bloom’s Digital Taxonomy – http://ow.ly/4fyVN #ELTchat |
| 10:04 pm | mikeopedia: | Common interests quickly connect people & form strong bonds. Kids sharing interests under the umbrella of learning = real learning. #eltchat |
| 10:04 pm | coolpapajase: | My PLN consists of students from all over the world. We mainly congregate on Facebook. It’s been a great learning resource. #eltchat |
| 10:04 pm | DinaDobrou: | Good night all. Thank you dear moderators @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni @Marisa_C #ELTchat |
| 10:04 pm | springrose12: | @fionamau @siwels196 There are cultural, traditional differences and sometimes conflict between kids who come from the same country #eltchat |
| 10:04 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @mikeopedia: Common interests quickly connect people & form strong bonds. Kids sharing interests under the umbrella of learning = real learning. #eltchat |
| 10:04 pm | harrisonmike: | @theteacherjames another q is would you want to, or Wud you be too busy with other things? #eltchat my guess is most here Wud, but others… |
| 10:05 pm | EclipsingX: | thanks for a great chat #ELTCHAT |
| 10:05 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @coolpapajase: My PLN consists of students from all over the world. We mainly congregate on Facebook. It’s been a great learning resource. #eltchat |
| 10:05 pm | theteacherjames: | @coolpapajase #eltchat How do you find each other? |
| 10:05 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @cybraryman1: And thanks to these great moderators – @ShellTerrell @Shaunwilden @rliberni @Marisa_C: #eltchat > seconded!! as always |
| 10:05 pm | fionamau: | @cerirhiannon #eltchat No,but friendship & liking r different. I doubt u have people you don’t like in yr PLN? (cont) http://deck.ly/~9h1Lv |
| 10:05 pm | ShellTerrell: | @DinaDobrou Thank you! You’re awesome & a definite follow to anyone’s PLN! #ELTChat |
| 10:06 pm | fionamau: | RT @springrose12: @fionamau @siwels196 There are cultural, traditional differences and sometimes conflict between kids who come from the same country #eltchat |
| 10:06 pm | springrose12: | @fionamau @siwels196 Respecting other cultures is taught only in some cultures. #eltchat |
| 10:06 pm | springrose12: | @fionamau @cerirhiannon My experience is that they need to get to know and like each other first #eltchat |
| 10:06 pm | europeaantje: | RT @europeaantje: cheers #etltchat ters #eltchat |
| 10:06 pm | cintiastella: | I’ve missed the #ELTChat… next time! |
| 10:06 pm | theteacherjames: | @harrisonmike #eltchat From what I hear, sts tend to hang out with others from their own country out of class, speak L1. Do you agree? |
| 10:06 pm | caroljallen: | I have set up a PLN via Facebook – 2010 Inclusion for All – needless to say, all welcome! #eltchat |
| 10:06 pm | fionamau: | RT @springrose12: @fionamau @siwels196 Respecting other cultures is taught only in some cultures. #eltchat > And only in some houses  |
| 10:07 pm | gstickel: | RT @fionamau: RT #eltchat @siwels196: @fionamau @ShellTerrell do you have to like each other to learn from each other? Ope? (cont) http://deck.ly/~TV0Jx |
| 10:07 pm | fionamau: | RT @springrose12: @fionamau @cerirhiannon My experience is that they need to get to know and like each other first #eltchat |
| 10:08 pm | harrisonmike: | I think we sumtimes 4get abt all that’s going on w our sts. Esp low income ESOL sts. Theyve much more imp stuff to deal w than pln #eltchat |
| 10:10 pm | LauraAustinNow: | RT @harrisonmike: I think we sumtimes 4get abt all that’s going on w our sts. Esp low income ESOL sts. Theyve much more imp stuff to deal w than pln #eltchat |
| 10:10 pm | cerirhiannon: | link to a talk I gave about a class who formed a temp email/blogging (P)LN brimming w *contagious enthusiasm* http://bit.ly/gcOKSm #eltchat |
| 10:10 pm | harrisonmike: | @theteacherjames Yep. So many sts I know stick to their communities here. Isolated. Also many w no intention of intgr8in or working #eltchat |
| 10:10 pm | theteacherjames: | @harrisonmike #eltchat But ideally their PLN should happen naturally, & not as a conscious decision? Then it’s low stress. |
| 10:11 pm | cerirhiannon: | RT @harrisonmike: I think we sumtimes 4get abt all that’s going on w our sts. Esp low income ESOL sts. Theyve much more imp stuff to deal w than pln #eltchat |
| 10:11 pm | cathywint: | just in from work. Sorry to have missed #ELTChat tonight. Having a quick catch up now |
| 10:11 pm | theteacherjames: | @harrisonmike #eltchat I’ve taught those people after they’ve come home. They are often shamefaced about it, let me tell you. |
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Transcript from the 2nd eltchat on 09.03.11 on the topic of avoiding burn out
| 9:00 pm | rliberni: | #eltchat – How can we avoid teacher burnout? |
| 9:01 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C Already got perfectionist paralysis! #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm | naomishema: | Having a PLN to vent with helps with burnout feelings #eltchat! |
| 9:02 pm | CeciELT: | I think the first step to avoid teacher burnout is being aware of it and keeping an eye open #ELTChat |
| 9:02 pm | Marisa_C: | So what are the symptoms of this burnout @SueAnnan ? You posted the question – would you like to kick off? #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm | rliberni: | RT @CeciELT: I think the first step to avoid teacher burnout is being aware of it and keeping an eye open #ELTChat |
| 9:02 pm | lolonagi: | so the question how to avoid T burnout #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @naomishema: Having a PLN to vent with helps with burnout feelings #eltchat! |
| 9:02 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: So what are the symptoms of this burnout @SueAnnan ? You posted the question – would you like to kick off? #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm | hoprea: | RT @Marisa_C: So what are the symptoms of this burnout @SueAnnan ? You posted the question – would you like to kick off? #ELTchat |
| 9:03 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat I myself suffered from burnout a few years ago. One year ago -back to life |
| 9:03 pm | sandymillin: | @mmgrinberg One way to avoid burnout is to get a good night’s sleep :0 #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @mmgrinberg One way to avoid burnout is to get a good night’s sleep :0 #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | lolonagi: | @hoprea burnout symptoms, I think after giving too many times the same material, you just burnout #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Marisa_C @SueAnnan symptoms? hmm…lack of enthusiasm, motivation, joy for work, i guess #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | harrisonmike: | Highly recommend capoeira as a way to avoid burnout – http://youtu.be/Z8xxgFpK-NM Don’t recommend doing it on wooden floor though! #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | katekidney: | Is it the right burnout when you want to leave the class immediately and let the children in the helllike condition they are in? #ELTChat |
| 9:04 pm | rliberni: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan symptoms? hmm…lack of enthusiasm, motivation, joy for work, i guess #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | rliberni: | RT @harrisonmike: Highly recommend capoeira as a way to avoid burnout – http://youtu.be/Z8xxgFpK-NM Don’t recommend doing it on wooden floor though! #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | CeciELT: | Symptoms of burnout? Irritability? Mood swings? Seeing no point in doing things – and not wanting to do them. #ELTChat |
| 9:04 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @hoprea @Marisa_C @SueAnnan lack of creativity, unwillingness to teach |
| 9:04 pm | lolonagi: | I think disinterest in what u giving to Ss #eltchat symptoms |
| 9:04 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat One thing our school does is organise weekend trips away – 2-3 per year |
| 9:04 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @CeciELT: Symptoms of burnout? Irritability? Mood swings? Seeing no point in doing things – and not wanting to do them. #ELTChat |
| 9:04 pm | lovedrummin: | One way to avoid burnout is to take some time for yourself, eat right and exercise. #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | Dancing and making a fool of oneself is generally a great idea #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm | rliberni: | Having to do too much paperwork that you know will just be left in a cupboard #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | dejongdd: | RT @lovedrummin: One way to avoid burnout is to take some time for yourself, eat right and exercise. #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | esolcourses: | RT @CeciELT: Symptoms of burnout? Irritability? Mood swings? Seeing no point in doing things – and not wanting to do them. #ELTChat |
| 9:04 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @harrisonmike: Highly recommend capoeira as a way to avoid burnout – http://youtu.be/Z8xxgFpK-NM Don’t recommend doing it on wooden floor though! #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | mmgrinberg: | @sandymillin That’s exactly what I wanted to say – sleep + regular meals. Back to the basics #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat I myself suffered from burnout a few years ago. One year ago -back to life > what brought you back? |
| 9:05 pm | sandymillin: | @fionamau This is true – but get a good night whenever you can. Weds night is bad for me now I follow #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: Dancing and making a fool of oneself is generally a great idea #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C that’s why I’m burnout! #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | harrisonmike: | @fionamau Too much sleep I think not so good. I function well on 7/8 hrs I think. Night #eltchat!! |
| 9:05 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: Dancing and making a fool of oneself is generally a great idea #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan symptoms? hmm…lack of enthusiasm, motivation, joy for work, i guess #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @CeciELT: Symptoms of burnout? Irritability? Mood swings? . #ELTChat oh no really, that’s me all the time |
| 9:05 pm | DinaDobrou: | So far it all comes down to “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | lovedrummin: | Long-range planning is also good. #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @rliberni: Having to do too much paperwork that you know will just be left in a cupboard #eltchat – True! |
| 9:05 pm | ELTmethods: | What is burnout? There is quite a lot running under this name? #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | sandymillin: | RT @DinaDobrou: So far it all comes down to “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | lolonagi: | @SueAnnan totally agree about the paper work #eltchat |
| 9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @lolonagi: I think disinterest in what u giving to Ss #eltchat symptoms |
| 9:05 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @lolonagi: I think disinterest in what u giving to Ss #eltchat symptoms |
| 9:06 pm | esolcourses: | RT @teacher_prix: RT @rliberni: Having to do too much paperwork that you know will just be left in a cupboard #eltchat – True! |
| 9:06 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @DinaDobrou: So far it all comes down to “All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy” #ELTchat – or girl, or something… |
| 9:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: One thing that worries me abt burnout is when it leads to loss of enthusiasm. We see that a lot in state school teaching here. #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @annapires: One thing that worries me abt burnout is when it leads to loss of enthusiasm. We see that a lot in state school teaching here. #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | cioccas: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @vladkaslniecko: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan symptoms? hmm…lack of enthusiasm, motivation, joy for work, i guess #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | springrose12: | @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Not being interested in anything anymore, to stop planning, take things personally…#eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat, seriously, participating in #30goals , caused me to look at my work from a different angle, find re-energizing, despite being work |
| 9:06 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@Marisa_C 3 years out of teaching! had a baby worked really well |
| 9:06 pm | Fuertesun: | I see a lot of tchrs off work in the state system here #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | CeciELT: | Another symptom wld also b 2 feel like yr job isn’t important, that no matter how much effort u put into it things it won’t matter #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | lolonagi: | how can we add this flavor 2 our lives as humans and as Ts #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | fionamau: | RT @sandymillin: @fionamau This is true – but get a good night whenever you can #eltchat > 4 or 5h for me – I end up getting ill .. |
| 9:06 pm | bcnpaul1: | i know this is preaching to the converted but twitter is massive for avoiding burnout IMO #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @CeciELT: Another symptom wld also b 2 feel like yr job isn’t important, that no matter how much effort u put into it things it won’t matter #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | naomishema: | RT @lolonagi: how can we add this flavor 2 our lives as humans and as Ts #eltchat |
| 9:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: i know this is preaching to the converted but twitter is massive for avoiding burnout IMO #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | eltbakery: | A big problem is when this lack of joy for work affects your students when Ts use less time and effort to prepare their lessons. #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | dejongdd: | @Marisa_C Back from burnout? Had to change attitude toward circumstances. Can’t change ‘em, can only change the way I look at ‘em. #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 But we like to revise! #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | cioccas: | RT @bcnpaul1: … twitter is massive for avoiding burnout IMO #eltchat <Agree – how do we get burnout teachers into it? |
| 9:07 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @eltbakery: A big problem is when this lack of joy for work affects your students when Ts use less time and effort to prepare their lessons. #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | naomishema: | RT @dejongdd: @Marisa_C Back from burnout? Had to change attitude toward circumstances. Can’t change ‘em, can only change the way I look at ‘em. #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @springrose12: @Marisa_C @SueAnnan Not being interested in anything anymore, to stop planning, take things personally…#eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @lclandfield started one of his talks with words “I used to be enthusiastic teacher” — how to avoid burnout. #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | cybraryman1: | My Coping Strategies (for New Teachers) also can apply to veteran: http://tinyurl.com/4td3gnk #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: My Coping Strategies (for New Teachers) also can apply to veteran: http://tinyurl.com/4td3gnk #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | juandoming: | http://on.ted.com/8zAq #elearning #juandon #education #TED #socialmedia #edchat #edtech #tech #eltchat [Like it? http://bit.ly/hWj0Be ] |
| 9:07 pm | rliberni: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @lclandfield started one of his talks with words “I used to be enthusiastic teacher” — how to avoid burnout. #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Going through the motions leads to sts lack of motivation, then they can’t be handled & more depression by T #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | vickyloras: | RT @bcnpaul1 i know this is preaching to the converted but twitter is massive for avoiding burnout IMO #eltchat >I 2nd,third,fourth that.. |
| 9:08 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @cybraryman1: My Coping Strategies (for New Teachers) also can apply to veteran: http://tinyurl.com/4td3gnk #eltchat > gd point |
| 9:08 pm | fionamau: | RT @Fuertesun: a lot of tchrs off work in the state system #eltchat >One state school in Tenerife had 40% of teachers off 4 depression… |
| 9:08 pm | mmgrinberg: | I guess if you ‘run out of ideas’ it’s also a kind of burnout. Or isn’t it? #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | lolonagi: | I think we all have 2 pass the burnout symptoms ha, #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | springrose12: | @bcnpaul1 @Marisa_C I think sharing the pain helps:) #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | evmaiden: | Might boil down to some basic more basic elements: feeling supported, valued, having a voice in decisons #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | rliberni: | RT @mmgrinberg: I guess if you ‘run out of ideas’ it’s also a kind of burnout. Or isn’t it? #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | nazsienkiewicz: | If feeling jaded reading a current article helps #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @Marisa_C in addition, I think, I simply changed from teaching General English to TOEFL, ESP, GRE – made a huge difference |
| 9:08 pm | vickyloras: | RT @cybraryman1: My Coping Strategies (for New Teachers) also can apply to veteran: http://tinyurl.com/4td3gnk #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | rliberni: | RT @evmaiden: Might boil down to some basic more basic elements: feeling supported, valued, having a voice in decisons #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | Fuertesun: | @fionamau yes in the two schools I work in we have 1 off #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cioccas That’s the big question. How do we get burnout t’s into twitter? slowly & thru’ demonstration. #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | lolonagi: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @Marisa_C in addition, I think, I simply changed from teaching General English to TOEFL, ESP, GRE – made a huge difference |
| 9:08 pm | CeciELT: | @springrose12 @bcnpaul1 @Marisa_C I agree with you there Tuba, sharing the pain helps #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | springrose12: | RT @mmgrinberg: I guess if you ‘run out of ideas’ it’s also a kind of burnout. Or isn’t it? #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: @cioccas That’s the big question. How do we get burnout t’s into twitter? slowly & thru’ demonstration. #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | eltbakery: | I’m sure that ss are the first ones to notice when Ts are burnout. #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | arganasta_: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @cybraryman1: My Coping Strategies (for New Teachers) also can apply to veteran: http://tinyurl.com/4td3gnk #eltchat > gd point |
| 9:09 pm | rliberni: | RT @eltbakery: I’m sure that ss are the first ones to notice when Ts are burnout. #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @DinaDobrou all play, too much entertainment can also burn you out |
| 9:09 pm | sedayyildirim: | keeping oneself busy with something , when you give up this , burnout is unavoidable #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | lolonagi: | @eltbakery yes agree about Ss,, esp, when u start getting nervous #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | cioccas: | @bcnpaul1 Trying that, demonstrating, modelling, evangelising! Some Ts see it as just another thing to do!#ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | ELTmethods: | We tend to call everything is b.o. Alcoholics get much more empathy if they are labeled as suffering from b.o. #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | fionamau: | RT @CeciELT feel like yr job isn’t important…. #ELTChat> IN EFL ppl make u feel like that, other teachers, pay structures, naff contracts |
| 9:09 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @fionamau @Fuertesun depression is very common amongst trs in the state system here in Portugal #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: @fionamau @Fuertesun depression is very common amongst trs in the state system here in Portugal #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @fionamau: RT @CeciELT feel like yr job isn’t important…. #ELTChat> IN EFL ppl make u feel like that, other teachers, pay structures, naff contracts |
| 9:09 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1: i know this is preaching to the converted but twitter is massive for avoiding burnout IMO #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat sabbaticals are very helpful! Do teachers not in Israel have one? |
| 9:10 pm | DinaDobrou: | In Greece language Ts work only 8 months a year & then unemployment benefit, so lack of motivation & willingness to quit. #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | CeciELT: | @eltbakery Agree with you Eduardo. I’ve had a St ask me what was wrong with me one day. She said I didn’t “feel” the same #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | katekidney: | Burnout and psychosomatic illnesses are close friends, too, I`m afraid.#ELTChat |
| 9:10 pm | Shaunwilden: | @SueAnnan Tricky, situation, do you do appraisals? perhaps it cna come up in that i.e. setting goal for the year #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | bcnpaul1: | @annapires it’s not. by definiton, burnt out t’s don’t want advice or suggestions. #eltchat it’s a really tricky one |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: In Greece language Ts work only 8 months a year & then unemployment benefit, so lack of motivation & willingness to quit. #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | fionamau: | RT @dejongdd: @Marisa_C Back from burnout? Had to change attitude toward circumstances. Can’t change ‘em, can only change the way I look at ‘em. #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan Tricky, situation, do you do appraisals? perhaps it cna come up in that i.e. setting goal for the year #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | eltbakery: | RT @CeciELT Another symptom wld also be that no matter how much effort u put into it things it won’t matter #ELTChat I agree! |
| 9:10 pm | cioccas: | @naomishema Not here in Australia that I know of, at least not in the Vocational sector #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | Fuertesun: | @DinaDobrou state or private? #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | evmaiden: | Maybe not “twitter” @bcnpaul1 but at least a network for support, sharing and learning (what we often find in twitter) #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | springrose12: | @sedayyildirim @Marisa_C I agree, you need to have hobbies and you need to get a life outside the school. #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @springrose12: @sedayyildirim @Marisa_C I agree, you need to have hobbies and you need to get a life outside the school. #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @eltbakery: RT @CeciELT Another symptom wld also be that no matter how much effort u put into it things it won’t matter #ELTChat I agree! |
| 9:10 pm | fionamau: | RT @DinaDobrou: @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan Going through the motions leads to sts lack of motivation, then they can’t be handled & more depression by T #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @eltbakery: RT @CeciELT Another symptom wld also be that no matter how much effort u put into it things it won’t matter #ELTChat I agree! |
| 9:11 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Fuertesun Private language schools and private schools too. not state schools. #ELTchat |
| 9:11 pm | lolonagi: | what about PD as to avoid burnout, i mean learning new things #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | cioccas: | @evmaiden @bcnpaul1 Sharing is key I think – you don’t have to do it all yourself – but needs to be 2-way #ELTchat |
| 9:11 pm | sandymillin: | @DinaDobrou As NEST abroad, we get 10 month contract, but having summer job good for change of pace. & NNESTs can 2 if they wnt #ELTchat |
| 9:11 pm | CeciELT: | I think having someone close show you the good things you do, your accomplishments as a teacher helps #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | fionamau: | RT @mmgrinberg: I guess if you ‘run out of ideas’ it’s also a kind of burnout. Or isn’t it? #eltchat >> it becomes it thru tedium & the rut |
| 9:11 pm | bcnpaul1: | often a change in the type of classes taught. YLs do adults… different levels, diff. responsibilities, mentoring schemes etc. #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | Marisa_C: | @SueAnnan It sound like a feeling of “stuckness” – plenty of action but no results… #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | vladkaslniecko: | the more dedicated teacher is, the more prone to burn out, i think,you can’t take everything too personally–problems or failures #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | Fuertesun: | I was tired not burnout before my Dip more like at a crossroads stale! #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | ShellTerrell: | A little late but the support from educators online really has helped me with burn-out! I think PLNs a must for educators #Eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | sandymillin: | RT @springrose12: @sedayyildirim @Marisa_C I agree, you need to have hobbies and get a life outside the school. #eltchat <definitely |
| 9:12 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @CeciELT: I think having someone close show you the good things you do, your accomplishments as a teacher helps #ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @bcnpaul1: i know this is preaching to the converted but twitter is massive for avoiding burnout IMO #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @annapires: How can we help teachers avoid burnout? #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | DinaDobrou: | @sandymillin I’m going to try it this summer. Hopefully I’ll get accepted. #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: How can we help teachers avoid burnout? #ELTchat > I believe by teaching/training them to be more creative and playful |
| 9:12 pm | katekidney: | @eltbakery I don|t agree. A burnout teacher is an automatic machine. Students are not mums.#ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @DinaDobrou: Private language schools…#ELTchat in PLS there is the lack of appreciation from managers which adds to burnout feeling |
| 9:12 pm | cioccas: | RT @vladkaslniecko: the more dedicated teacher is, the more prone to burn out, … #eltchat <true |
| 9:12 pm | davymmck: | #eltchat I wish I had more time for twitter. 38 contact hours weekly doesn’t leave much time for anything. Burnout is a way of life. |
| 9:12 pm | mmgrinberg: | Having a consultant / supervisor / therapist is a vry effective way 2 deal w stress if U’re a teacher from my pov #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | rliberni: | I find owning your own ideas & beliefs are important (i.e. don’t let the buggers grind you down) Can I say b***? #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | naomishema: | Althoug I AGREE you need to have hobbies the reengergizing must come from something related to the school otherwise not effective #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | vickyloras: | RT @CeciELT: I think having someone close show you the good things you do, your accomplishments as a teacher helps #ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @ShellTerrell: A little late but the support from educators online really has helped me with burn-out! I think PLNs a must for educators #Eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @davymmck: #eltchat I wish I had more time for twitter. 38 contact hours weekly doesn’t leave much time for anything. Burnout is a way of life. |
| 9:12 pm | SueannaN: | RT @rliberni: I find owning your own ideas & beliefs are important (i.e. don’t let the buggers grind you down) Can I say b***? #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: @bcnpaul1 But not easy to convince trs experiencing burnout to join twitter. #ELTchat >> Getting involved in stthing helps .. |
| 9:12 pm | ELTmethods: | @lolonagi this is the most successful way to fight burnout imo #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @mmgrinberg: Having a consultant / supervisor / therapist is a vry effective way 2 deal w stress if U’re a teacher from my pov #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | bcnpaul1: | @cioccas yes – sharing. feelings about teaching & lots of peer observation #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | teacher_prix: | I think the environment we work in can cope with that… T’s room energy… #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | esolcourses: | I think situations where unreasonable workloads + not enough time to do a decent job can lead to burnout. Hard to get around that 1 #ELTChat |
| 9:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: @cioccas yes – sharing. feelings about teaching & lots of peer observation #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | waykatewit: | RT @bcnpaul1: often a change in the type of classes taught. YLs do adults… different levels, diff. responsibilities, mentoring schemes etc. #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | CeciELT: | RT @esolcourses: I think situations where unreasonable workloads + not enough time to do a decent job can lead to burnout. Hard to get around that 1 #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | esolcourses: | RT @annapires: How can we help teachers avoid burnout? #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | rliberni: | @bcnpaul1 YES great and supportive colleagues! #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Marisa_C @annapires definitely…be PLAYFUL #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | lolonagi: | I think also going to adventure parks and eating some ice-cream works well #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | rliberni: | RT @esolcourses: I think situations where unreasonable workloads + not enough time to do a decent job can lead to burnout. Hard to get around that 1 #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | KarenInGreece: | I agree!@DinaDobrou: Private language schools..#ELTchat in PLS there is the lack of appreciation from managers which adds to burnout feeling |
| 9:13 pm | teacher_prix: | @lclandfield‘s ‘Surviving the Staffroom’ is of good help in order to avoid that situation! #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @esolcourses: unreasonable workloads + not enough time to do a decent job can lead to burnout. Hard to get around that 1 > agree #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | DinaDobrou: | @davymmck @rliberni Not glad you have to teach so many hours, but glad to know I’m not alone…:D #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: Creating a “support group” in the staffroom. #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: @bcnpaul1 to join twitter. #ELTchat… but needn’t be twitter. We set up small indie teachers club in Tenerife. was fab |
| 9:13 pm | sandymillin: | @Marisa_C Creativity and playfulness are important – but teaching them how 2 not enough. They need opportunities 2 use it too! #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: Creating a “support group” in the staffroom. #ELTchat > and one on twitter an done on facebook etc |
| 9:13 pm | ShellTerrell: | I believe educators need to learn to quit at some point in the day & make time for themselves in non edu activities! #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | cioccas: | @esolcourses: unreasonable workloads + not enough time #ELTChat <Ts seem to do more and more admin where I am, no time for Teaching! |
| 9:13 pm | CeciELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: I believe educators need to learn to quit at some point in the day & make time for themselves in non edu activities! #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | eltbakery: | @CeciELT That’s when the school coordinator/DOS play an important role trying to do something for the teacher. #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @Marisa_C Creativity and playfulness are important – but teaching them how 2 not enough. They need opportunities 2 use it too! #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | sedayyildirim: | @evmaiden @bcnpaul1 I think twitter also can be helpful as a tool .. #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: I believe educators need to learn to quit at some point in the day & make time for themselves in non edu activities! #ELTChat |
| 9:14 pm | BrdCmpbll: | @ShellTerrell idk #eltchat sometime twitter and my pln make me feel like “wow” I am not as good as them. Reflection of my need to grow |
| 9:14 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @fionamau to join twitter. #ELTchat… but needn’t be twitter. We set up small indie teachers club in Tenerife. was fab > yes! |
| 9:14 pm | springrose12: | @ShellTerrell Twitter is also my personal space and I try to seperate from my professional life..Ok, you don’t let this but I try:) #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | mmgrinberg: | Another thing that helps me is – never accept work on Fridays. At least never schedule regular classes. Fridays for PD! #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | cioccas: | @Marisa_C @annapires We have a good f2f support group, I’m trying to create one online – any tips anyone? #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @alicemercer: I find it gives me a more global and wholistic perspective #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | rliberni: | @ShellTerrell agreed personal space and great peer support #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | vladkaslniecko: | it helps to have a person to talk to…and it’s awesome when they know what u talk about  #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | Marisa_C: | @sandymillin Absolutely – being trained to be creative and then being forced to teach in a boring way can CAUSE burnout #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @vladkaslniecko: it helps to have a person to talk to…and it’s awesome when they know what u talk about #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | SueannaN: | @sedayyildirim I agree about twitter, but here you are preaching to the converted. What about people who are not on #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | naomishema: | RT @vladkaslniecko: it helps to have a person to talk to…and it’s awesome when they know what u talk about #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | Shaunwilden: | @teacher_prix Though tchrs rooms can be a real pain if you’re off your game and people are creatively running around #eltchat |
| 9:14 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @esolcourses: unreasonable workloads + not enough time to do a decent job can lead to burnout. Hard to get around that 1 > agree #ELTChat |
| 9:14 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: @bcnpaul1 joining twitter #ELTchat That teachers club, the #dogme group, conferences, twitter.. it all helped me. |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @sandymillin Absolutely – being trained to be creative and then being forced to teach in a boring way can CAUSE burnout #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | CeciELT: | @eltbakery Agreed. My school got us quick massage therapists in the staff room for 2 days in our craziest week last semester #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @teacher_prix Though tchrs rooms can be a real pain if you’re off your game and people are creatively running around #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @CeciELT: @eltbakery Agreed. My school got us quick massage therapists in the staff room for 2 days in our craziest week last semester #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | cioccas: | @SueAnnan @sedayyildirim And Twitter can be a bit overwhelming to the newcomer #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @Marisa_C @annapires by showing them how lesson-planning can be quick, not worksheet-dependent |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @Marisa_C @annapires by showing them how lesson-planning can be quick, not worksheet-dependent |
| 9:15 pm | springrose12: | @ShellTerrell How can they, when you send so many interesting stuff to read to us?:)) #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @Marisa_C @annapires by showing them how lesson-planning can be quick, not worksheet-dependent |
| 9:15 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @annapires: But not all trs all willing to join social networks. Important to find other networks of support, starting at school. #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | esolcourses: | @cioccas same in the UK. Every year there seems to be another layer of paperwork added that nobody is ever lokely to read! #ELTChat |
| 9:15 pm | ShellTerrell: | Good pt raised! RT @BrdCmpbll: #eltchat sometimes twitter & pln make me feel like “wow” Im not as good. Reflection of my need to grow |
| 9:15 pm | shaznosel: | @ShellTerrell #eltchat if educators do not take time out and relate to the normal world..how can you be with ss? |
| 9:15 pm | CELT_Athens: | RT @rliberni: @ShellTerrell agreed personal space and great peer support #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | ELTmethods: | A school context with teachers who talk to each other helps. #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | evmaiden: | Yes, I agree (and my tool of choice ) but “the network” is the most important part @sedayyildirim @bcnpaul1 #ELTChat |
| 9:15 pm | cioccas: | @CeciELT I want a massage therapist in my staffroom #ELTchat – wonder ful idea |
| 9:15 pm | KarenInGreece: | @mmgrinberg I wish I didn’t have to do classes on Fridays! Or Saturdays as well. #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Good pt raised! RT @BrdCmpbll: #eltchat sometimes twitter & pln make me feel like “wow” Im not as good. Reflection of my need to grow |
| 9:15 pm | CeciELT: | @Shaunwilden @teacher_prix Agreed Shaun. When you’re burnout being surrounded by Ts who aren’t just makes it worse #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @shaznosel: @ShellTerrell #eltchat if educators do not take time out and relate to the normal world..how can you be with ss? |
| 9:16 pm | bcnpaul1: | action research groups seem to work well where I am. it’s self-directed & therefore more motivating #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTmethods: A school context with teachers who talk to each other helps. #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat I reckon things like @ShellTerrell ‘s challenges help, trying new stuff, moving out of the comfort zone. But it’s a character thing |
| 9:16 pm | vickyloras: | No matter how much we love teaching,we shld try not to let it spread2outside teaching hrs (I shld practice what I preach as well!) #ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | Chrissy_Kelly: | learn to say NO #ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | CeciELT: | @cioccas And it’s not that expensive either Lesley. And there are other things the school / admin can do… #ELTchat |
| 9:16 pm | Shaunwilden: | @cioccas we used to have a room made up as a bedroom so you could get 40 winks between lessons #ELTchat |
| 9:16 pm | sedayyildirim: | @SueAnnan twitter is not the only tool , even a book, a video or tv programme may have the same effect for the others #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | sandymillin: | #eltchat Does your school do anything to help you avoid burnout? (Not just re: PD) |
| 9:16 pm | lolonagi: | changing levels, the way u teach, may be work places if possible #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | Fuertesun: | @SueAnnan yes Sue I agree #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | eltbakery: | I agree w @ShellTerrell that Ts must quit at some point in the day and also make sure they have engh time 4 planning during the wk #ELTchat |
| 9:16 pm | naomishema: | RT @Chrissy_Kelly: learn to say NO #ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: My point being that teachers need to be able to find the support they need within their institution. #ELTchat |
| 9:16 pm | sandymillin: | RT @shaznosel: @ShellTerrell #eltchat if educators do not take time out and relate to the normal world..how can you be with ss? |
| 9:17 pm | rliberni: | @ELTmethods interesting point does the organisational culture cause burnout? #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | CeciELT: | @vickyloras We should all do that Vicky… I’m terrified of doing @seburnt ‘s ELT ratio #ELTChat |
| 9:17 pm | evmaiden: | And admins who support and encourage that @ELTmethods #ELTChat |
| 9:17 pm | KarenInGreece: | Me too! @CeciELT I want a massage therapist in my staffroom #ELTchat – wonder ful idea |
| 9:17 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @rliberni: @ELTmethods interesting point does the organisational culture cause burnout? #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | lewisedtech: | RT @jorech: Burn out? Make sure kids are purposely working harder than u are. Replace “completion” tasks with a single “creation.” #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | sandymillin: | RT @cioccas: @CeciELT I want a massage therapist in my staffroom #ELTchat – wonderful idea – me2! |
| 9:17 pm | allenlewis559: | RT @jorech: Burn out? Make sure kids are purposely working harder than u are. Replace “completion” tasks with a single “creation.” #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | siwels196: | RT @jorech: Burn out? Make sure kids are purposely working harder than u are. Replace “completion” tasks with a single “creation.” #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @fionamau: #eltchat trying new stuff, moving out of the comfort zone. But it’s a character thing |
| 9:17 pm | eltbakery: | @lu_bodeman Lucy, join #ELTchat . We are discussing teachers burnout right now! =] |
| 9:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @evmaiden: Yes, I agree (and my tool of choice ) but “the network” is the most important part @sedayyildirim @bcnpaul1 #ELTChat |
| 9:17 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires @Fuertesun depression is very common amongst trs in the state system here in Portugal #ELTchat >> we shld get em all together! |
| 9:17 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @fionamau: #eltchat trying new stuff, moving out of the comfort zone. But it’s a character thing |
| 9:17 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @vickyloras LOL, yes we all know the theory…still need to practice #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | Shaunwilden: | @sandymillin I used to try and meet all my teachers every week to make sure all was going ok, give advice etc #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | naomishema: | RT @CeciELT: @vickyloras We should all do that Vicky… I’m terrified of doing @seburnt ‘s ELT ratio #ELTChat Me too! |
| 9:17 pm | JoHart: | LOL I went to bed on one #eltchat topic & have just woken to find u are still talking! Now abt avoiding burnout Do you ever take a break? |
| 9:17 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ShellTerrell @BrdCmpbll But at the same time they make you want to become better. & you set goals! & you have a sense of direction #ELTchat |
| 9:18 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @fionamau: #eltchat trying new stuff, moving out of the comfort zone. But it’s a character thing |
| 9:18 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@Marisa_C @rliberni @ELTmethods definitely, it does |
| 9:18 pm | esolcourses: | @ELTmethods agree… tho’ flip side of that coin is that many organisations don’t want creativity, they seek conformity #ELTChat |
| 9:18 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @rliberni: @ELTmethods interesting point – does the organisational culture cause burnout? #eltchat > I think it can |
| 9:18 pm | jorech: | Make sure kids are purposefully working harder than u. Replace multiple “completion” tasks w/ fewer “creations #ELTChat |
| 9:18 pm | teacher_prix: | I sometimes try to stay away from twitter and do other things instead… #ELTchat |
| 9:18 pm | rliberni: | RT @esolcourses: @ELTmethods agree… tho’ flip side of that coin is that many organisations don’t want creativity, they seek conformity #ELTChat |
| 9:18 pm | SueannaN: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: RT @rliberni: @ELTmethods interesting point – does the organisational culture cause burnout? #eltchat > I think it can |
| 9:18 pm | ShellTerrell: | Also believe we need to get out of mentality of being constant miracle workers & being superheroes like media tries to urge us 2 do #Eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | rliberni: | @esolcourses creativity is key to keeping interest so no wonder! #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | ELTmethods: | @SueAnnan quite right – challenges instead of routines. But then trs must be in a position to have and make choices. #eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | naomishema: | RT @ShellTerrell: Also believe we need to get out of mentality of being constant miracle workers & being superheroes like media tries to urge us 2 do #Eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @teacher_prix: I sometimes try to stay away from twitter and do other things instead… #ELTchat > we need “shut off” time too |
| 9:18 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Also believe we need to get out of mentality of being constant miracle workers & being superheroes like media tries to urge us 2 do #Eltchat |
| 9:18 pm | Fuertesun: | @fionamau It’s depressing me too!@annapires #ELTchat #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | Fuertesun: | @annapires In what ways? #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | mmgrinberg: | @KarenInGreece I do teach on Fri, Sat, sometimes even Sun, but only 121s not the school stuff, so I cn easily move things arnd #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTmethods: @SueAnnan quite right – challenges instead of routines. But then trs must be in a position to have and make choices. #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: @fionamau @Fuertesun But government is to blame here!!! #ELTchat >> Here too; they probably copy each other…. no thought |
| 9:19 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @rliberni: @esolcourses creativity is key to keeping interest so no wonder! #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C: RT @rliberni: @ELTmethods interesting point – does the organisational culture cause burnout? #eltchat > I think it can |
| 9:19 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @ELTmethods: @SueAnnan challenges instead of routines. But then trs must be in a position to have and make choices >agree. #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | ISILBOY: | Sometimes institution may trigger the burnout RT @annapires: Ts need 2 be able 2 find the support they need w/in their institution. #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | Lmachazel: | ?@annapires: How can we help teachers avoid burnout? #ELTchat? Let us get full retirement if we stay in the classroom for 20yrs…#tired |
| 9:19 pm | cioccas: | RT @annapires: @fionamau @Fuertesun govt is to blame here!Here too, competitive tendering, contestible funding, we’re all on edge #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | CeciELT: | @Marisa_C @teacher_prix Problem with shutoff time for me is being able to separate work/interests – lots of gray area there for me #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @cioccas: RT @annapires: @fionamau @Fuertesun govt is to blame here!Here too, competitive tendering, contestible funding, we’re all on edge #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | sedayyildirim: | @cioccas @SueAnnan absolutely it may take your mind away ! #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | Chrissy_Kelly: | RT @ShellTerrell: Also believe we need to get out of mentality of being constant miracle workers & being superheroes like media tries to urge us 2 do #Eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | cioccas: | RT @IsilBoy: … institution may trigger the burnout RT @annapires: Ts need 2 be able 2 find the support they need w/in their inst. #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | naomishema: | RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C @teacher_prix Problem with shutoff time for me is being able to separate work/interests – lots of gray area there for me #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | sandymillin: | @JoHart No – that’s why we need to talk about burnout #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | ShellTerrell: | Really enjoyed @seburnt post on this issue where he made graphs of his time spent in ELT vs other stuff http://bit.ly/eNe7eI #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | naomishema: | RT @ShellTerrell: Really enjoyed @seburnt post on this issue where he made graphs of his time spent in ELT vs other stuff http://bit.ly/eNe7eI #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | Fuertesun: | @cioccas No compeptiiton here job for life when you’re a civil srvant #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | MitchSquires: | RT @jorech: Make sure kids are purposefully working harder than u. Replace multiple “completion” tasks w/ fewer “creations #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | rliberni: | @SueannaN who creates the culture? Can we change it from inside? #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | waykatewit: | @ShellTerrell agree! #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | Shaunwilden: | Isnt it also the case that many elt tchrs dont plan to do it long term so at heart dont care that much so when the going gets tough.#ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | vickyloras: | RT @ShellTerrell: Also believe we need to get out of mentality of being constant miracle workers & being superheroes like media tries to urge us 2 do #Eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: Isnt it also the case that many elt tchrs dont plan to do it long term so at heart dont care that much so when the going gets tough.#ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | ShannonMJones: | RT @CeciELT: I think having someone close show you the good things you do, your accomplishments as a teacher helps #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | SueannaN: | @ShellTerrell yes I saw that. It’s a shock how much time we give to our jobs #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C @teacher_prix Problem with shutoff time for me is being able to separate work/interests – lots of gray area there for me #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | fionamau: | RT @ShellTerrell no to being constant miracle workers & being superheroes like media tries 2 urge us 2 do #Eltchat Down w Michelle Pfeiffer! |
| 9:20 pm | Chrissy_Kelly: | I’m off to watch Jamie’s Dream school, will that make me avoid T burnout? #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | DinaDobrou: | @CeciELT @Marisa_C @teacher_prix And spending time with colleagues outside work is still like working cos you end up discussing it #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | CeciELT: | @IsilBoy Agreed Isil! Many times they do, burying Ts with unnecessary (?) procedures and paperwork #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | ShellTerrell: | @BrdCmpbll We are each good at something. We don’t need to be like those we admire just aim to be better educators #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | eltbakery: | RT @CeciELT The Ts in my school organize pot luck breakfasts before Saturday classes, 2 chat about other things. #ELTchat Great idea! |
| 9:20 pm | Marisa_C: | @CeciELT Yes but for some of us work and play merge – are we talking about this type of teacher? #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | ELTmethods: | Are there differences between state and private schools? I teach at a state school and think b.o. is more serious there. #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | sandymillin: | @mmgrinberg But think it’s important to have at least 1, preferably 2, full days off each wk! Used 2 teach Sat, mch bttr nw I don’t #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | SueannaN: | @rliberni Not sure. New boss and DOS. Difficult to make changes at the mo. #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: @Fuertesun This government went on a campaign to smear teachers, with budget & salary cuts… > the portuguese govt? #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | rliberni: | @SueAnnan I’m happy to give a lot of time to my job if it defines me and if I am in control of what I do #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | fionamau: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @ELTmethods: @SueAnnan challenges instead of routines. But then trs must be in a position to have and make choices >agree. #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | cioccas: | @annapires Sounds like you might be in Australia? #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | Fuertesun: | @annapires salary cuts here too #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | DinaDobrou: | @CeciELT @IsilBoy Tell me about it! We have lots of admin work outside teaching in my school. #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | Shaunwilden: | @Fuertesun sorry ran out of letters, yes tefl teachers – they do their celta and think it will be a ‘breeze’ for a yr or 2 #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | sandymillin: | RT @ShellTerrell: Really enjoyed @seburnt post on this issue where he made graphs of his time spent in ELT vs other stuff http://bit.ly/eNe7eI #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | CeciELT: | @DinaDobrou @Marisa_C @teacher_prix Agreed Dina! And it seems we can’t refrain from it! #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | springrose12: | @Marisa_C @ShellTerrell What helps me is to get the little compliments and appreciation nod from other teachers& senior management #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @springrose12: @Marisa_C @ShellTerrell What helps me is to get the little compliments and appreciation nod from other teachers& senior management #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | JoHart: | RT @rliberni: @SueAnnan I’m happy to give a lot of time to my job if it defines me and if I am in control of what I do #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @DinaDobrou: And spending time with colleagues outside work is still like working cos you end up discussing it #ELTchat -Agreed! |
| 9:22 pm | cioccas: | RT @springrose12: @Marisa_C @ShellTerrell What helps … little compliments and appreciation nod from other teachers& senior mgmt #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | katekidney: | Healthy body helps the mind stay healthy, too, doesn`t it?#eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @CeciELT: Problem with shutoff time for me is being able to separate work/interests – lots of gray area there for me #ELTchat – Same here |
| 9:22 pm | CeciELT: | @Marisa_C I’m not sure Marisa, I think this type of teacher takes longer to burn out (at least I hope so for I include me in it!) #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | eltbakery: | @lu_bodeman Type #ELTchat on Search and follow the tweets. To participate just add #ELTchat on every tweet. |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | RT @katekidney: Healthy body helps the mind stay healthy, too, doesn`t it?#eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | Fuertesun: | @Shaunwilden yes and if you stay longer the challenge starts to go have to dvp or die a death #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | vladkaslniecko: | well, like in many other jobs where u work w/ people…Ts need respect and recognition to avoid burn out #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | FishMath: | RT @JoHart: RT @rliberni: @SueAnnan I’m happy to give a lot of time to my job if it defines me and if I am in control of what I do #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Marisa_C: @CeciELT Yes but for some of us work and play merge – are we talking about this type of teacher? #ELTchat <like me! |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | RT @vladkaslniecko: well, like in many other jobs where u work w/ people…Ts need respect and recognition to avoid burn out #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | sandymillin: | RT @rliberni: @SueAnnan I’m happy to give a lot of time to my job if it defines me and if I am in control of what I do #eltchat <me 2 |
| 9:23 pm | cioccas: | Trying to get Ts to understand that if we ALL share more, there is less for each of us to do individually – any tips? #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat No one has mentioned house work and family! |
| 9:23 pm | ShellTerrell: | Appreciation a must RT @springrose12: What helps me is 2 get little compliments/ appreciation nod fr other teachers & senior mngmt #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | mmgrinberg: | @sandymillin I often have Fri and either Sat or Sun off, but things happen… #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | cioccas: | RT @rliberni: @SueAnnan I’m happy to give a lot of time to my job if it defines me and if I am in control of what I do #eltchat <me 2 |
| 9:23 pm | esolcourses: | @shaznosel agree. Teachers here are often on temp contracts & put under major pressure to get learners to pass. Stressful? You bet! #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @cioccas: Trying to get Ts to understand that if we ALL share more, there is less for each of us to do individually – any tips? #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @SueAnnan: I think praise for good work can be motivating #Eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | vickyloras: | RT @ShellTerrell: Really enjoyed @seburnt post on this issue where he made graphs of his time spent in ELT vs other stuff http://bit.ly/eNe7eI #eltchat |
| 9:23 pm | CeciELT: | @DinaDobrou @IsilBoy Us too Dina, lots of things to fill into the system, and evaluation thru portfolios takes more time /attention #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | web20education: | Changing #Education Paradigms on #edtech20 PLN: http://ning.it/er4Gpl #edchat #elearning #eltchat #lrnchat #efl #elt #sxswedu #iste11 |
| 9:24 pm | CeciELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @SueAnnan: I think praise for good work can be motivating #Eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | springrose12: | @cioccas @Marisa_C @ShellTerrell It also helps when Ss smile at me and thank for support I give them for their learning #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | DinaDobrou: | @katekidney @rliberni Yeah, & I’m a member at the local gym but have no time. Always setting other priorities. Correct, prepare etc #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | rliberni: | @vladkaslniecko I think this is part of the prob as a prof we aren’t always respected (& sorry, but we do s’times whine a bit) #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | esolcourses: | RT @cioccas: RT @rliberni: @SueAnnan I’m happy to give a lot of time to my job if it defines me & if I am in control of what I do #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @ShellTerrell: Appreciation a must RT @springrose12: What helps me is 2 get little compliments/ appreciation nod fr other teachers & senior mngmt #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | SueannaN: | RT @rliberni: @vladkaslniecko I think this is part of the prob as a prof we aren’t always respected (& sorry, but we do s’times whine a bit) #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | fionamau: | #eltchat Wot about in TEFL being made 2 feel yr not a Real Teacher?Ppl don’t respect u, yr pay is rubbish, u get sacker after 3 yrs etc..? |
| 9:24 pm | Fuertesun: | @naomishema ugh cleaning and ironing too #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | ShellTerrell: | Love starry eyed pupils! RT @springrose12: It also helps when Ss smile at me and thank for support I give them for their learning #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat I work 6 days a week and then at home for school, family support is needed not sink! |
| 9:24 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @vladkaslniecko: well, like in many other jobs where u work w/ people…Ts need respect and recognition to avoid burn out #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Love starry eyed pupils! RT @springrose12: It also helps when Ss smile at me and thank for support I give them for their learning #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @SueAnnan: I think praise for good work can be motivating #Eltchat so many bosses just don’t reward Ts |
| 9:24 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat Wot about in TEFL being made 2 feel yr not a Real Teacher?Ppl don’t respect u, yr pay is rubbish, u get sacker after 3 yrs etc..? |
| 9:24 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat Wot about in TEFL being made 2 feel yr not a Real Teacher?Ppl don’t respect u, yr pay is rubbish, u get sacker after 3 yrs etc..? |
| 9:24 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @vladkaslniecko: well, like in many other jobs where u work w/ people…Ts need respect and recognition to avoid burn out #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | CeciELT: | Emotional support is essential to me. Thankfully I get that from physical staffroom and loads from my PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:24 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @cioccas: Trying to get Ts to understand that if we ALL share more (…) – any tips? => All the blogging and twitting, right? #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | cioccas: | RT @springrose12: … It also helps when Ss smile at me and thank for support I give them for their learning #eltchat <Ss thnx are the best! |
| 9:25 pm | fionamau: | RT @Fuertesun: @cioccas No compeptiiton here job for life when you’re a civil srvant #ELTchat >> hence no motivation to update or experiment |
| 9:25 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @CeciELT: Emotional support is essential to me. Thankfully I get that from physical staffroom and loads from my PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:25 pm | Marisa_C: | Isn’t it a responsibility of the school leadeship too then – as some of your tweets show? To help T-ing staff with this #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | bcnpaul1: | sometimes the prob is that managers in elt are really teachers and don’t have skills to be managers so don’t manage well #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | Fuertesun: | @fionamau YES getting very burnout by that whole thing #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | JoHart: | @sandymillin LOL that was rather what I thought “chuckle” #eltchat although as @ShellTerrell says PLN/Twitter is helpful in avoiding brnout |
| 9:25 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: Isn’t it a responsibility of the school leadeship too then – as some of your tweets show? To help T-ing staff with this #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: sometimes the prob is that managers in elt are really teachers and don’t have skills to be managers so don’t manage well #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | DinaDobrou: | @esolcourses @Marisa_C @Shaunwilden @SueAnnan You’re right Sue! And to think…it doesn’t cost them anything! #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: Isn’t it a responsibility of the school leadeship too then – as some of your tweets show? To help T-ing staff with this #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @bcnpaul1: sometimes the prob is that managers in elt are really teachers and don’t have skills to be managers so don’t manage well #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat as bosses do not praise, you believe in yourself..not easy at times esp for new tchrs |
| 9:25 pm | sandymillin: | RT @fionamau: #eltchat Wot about in TEFL being made 2 feel yr not a Real Teacher?Ppl don’t respect u, yr pay is rubbish, u get sacker after 3 yrs etc..? |
| 9:25 pm | ISILBOY: | @DinaDobrou @cecielt Same here! And I must confess some Ts at my uni. are really dif. to get along with! #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C: Isn’t it a responsibility of the school leadeship too then … To help T-ing staff with this #ELTchat ] I’d say so – yes |
| 9:25 pm | CeciELT: | @Marisa_C I think it is Marisa. Burnout teachers are usually the more committed, hardworking ones #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | cioccas: | @Marisa_C I think leaders here close to burnout too – everybody on edge #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | Marisa_C: | The microclimate of an institution is crucial to causing t-burnout and lack of motivation to do a good job #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | esolcourses: | RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C I think it is Marisa. Burnout teachers are usually the more committed, hardworking ones #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! Confidence important! RT @shaznosel: #eltchat as bosses do not praise, you believe in yourself..not easy at times esp for new tchrs |
| 9:26 pm | Shaunwilden: | @bcnpaul1: I’d be pessimistic and say more than sometimes #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | JoHart: | @FishMath @hoprea Thank you for RTs during #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | rliberni: | @bcnpaul1 I don’t think it has to be onwards & upwards just happy in your skin, doing a great job and of value #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | springrose12: | RT @cioccas: @Marisa_C I think leaders here close to burnout too – everybody on edge #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | SueannaN: | RT @esolcourses: RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C I think it is Marisa. Burnout teachers are usually the more committed, hardworking ones #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | waykatewit: | @Marisa_C it is #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! Confidence important! RT @shaznosel: #eltchat as bosses do not praise, you believe in yourself..not easy at times esp for new tchrs |
| 9:26 pm | fionamau: | RT @SueAnnan: @ShellTerrell It’s a shock how much time we give to our jobs #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | KarenInGreece: | Not enough money, more hours, increasing expectations and less support and appreciation… it all leads to burn out #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C I think it is Marisa. Burnout teachers are usually the more committed, hardworking ones > agree with that #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @twoodwar: FWIW I think burnout can be a good thing. Makes sense to me to cycle back & forth between jobs.Some value there. #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @fionamau: RT @SueAnnan: @ShellTerrell It’s a shock how much time we give to our jobs #eltchat > it is – even now |
| 9:26 pm | sandymillin: | @bcnpaul1 Or school owners are not teachers and don’t know how it feels #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | cioccas: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @fionamau: RT @SueAnnan: @ShellTerrell It’s a shock how much time we give to our jobs #eltchat > it is – even now |
| 9:27 pm | ShellTerrell: | @twoodwar In what respects? #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | CeciELT: | Fostering an environment that doesn’t give much space to competition helps. Feeling u r competing adds to the strain/stress #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | springrose12: | RT definitely agree! they work such long hrs @cioccas @Marisa_C I think leaders here close to burnout too – everybody on edge #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | teacher_prix: | The worst thing is when Ur trying out a new project or smthing and you have no support from coords/peers… #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @shaznosel: #eltchat as bosses do not praise, you believe in yourself..not easy at times esp for new tchrs >Valid point! |
| 9:27 pm | SueannaN: | @sandymillin or are far enough away from the chalkface to not have the same worries #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @bcnpaul1 Or school owners are not teachers and don’t know how it feels – interesting #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | cioccas: | RT @teacher_prix: The worst thing is when Ur trying out a new project or smthing and you have no support from coords/peers… #ELTchat <True |
| 9:27 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @rliberni: I don’t think it has to be onwards & upwards just happy in your skin, doing a gr8 job and of value > and being valued #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | eltbakery: | Another problem is when these other activities like movies or music, make us think about teaching. Difficult to switch off. #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @rliberni: RT @sandymillin: @bcnpaul1 Or school owners are not teachers and don’t know how it feels – interesting #eltchat> But true |
| 9:27 pm | vickyloras: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @CeciELT: Emotional support is essential to me. Thankfully I get that from physical staffroom and loads from my PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | CeciELT: | RT @teacher_prix: The worst thing is when Ur trying out a new project or smthing and you have no support from coords/peers… #ELTchat> Yes! |
| 9:27 pm | esolcourses: | @CeciELT @Marisa_C agree absolutely. I suspect teachers who care less about students & doing a good job have an easier time of it #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | rliberni: | RT @CeciELT: RT @teacher_prix: The worst thing is when Ur trying out a new project or smthing and you have no support from coords/peers… #ELTchat> Yes! |
| 9:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | @fionamau I loved Freedom Writers movie but at same time depressed teaching basically seemed to interfere w her marriage #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | SueannaN: | RT @esolcourses: @CeciELT @Marisa_C agree absolutely. I suspect teachers who care less about students & doing a good job have an easier time of it #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @sandymillin: Or school owners are not teachers and don’t know how it feels #eltchat Yes so true have met a few of those in my time |
| 9:28 pm | ISILBOY: | I get it from u guys! RT @ShellTerrell @CeciELT: Emotional support is essential to me.I get that from physical staffroom & PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | CeciELT: | @teacher_prix Even worse when you meet mockery or people undermining it #ELTchat |
| 9:28 pm | Marisa_C: | @esolcourses I see many of them having very nice lives #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @sandymillin: @bcnpaul1 Or school owners are not teachers and don’t know how it feels >yes! we need a combo (t’s who can manage) #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | mmgrinberg: | My friends and family are so helpful – they are the best anti-burnout tools ever! #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | sandymillin: | @bcnpaul1 Another #eltchat topic – how to combine the two |
| 9:28 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @tutortek: I agree about quitting at a given time of the day, but when? #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | naomishema: | RT @CeciELT: RT @teacher_prix: The worst thing is when Ur trying out a new project . #ELTchat> And others think your crazy for bothering! |
| 9:28 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @CeciELT: Fostering an environment that doesn’t give space to competition helps. Feeling ur competing adds to stress #ELTChat>True |
| 9:28 pm | rliberni: | @CeciELT agreed but then you have to get tough and see it through if you believe in it prove it this brings energy #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | shaznosel: | @ShellTerrell @springrose12 #eltchat agree! Think we would all burn out if our ss didn’t love us..keep going for them |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @DinaDobrou: At the same time they make you want to become better. & you set goals! & you have a sense of direction #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @CeciELT: Fostering an environment that doesn’t give space to competition helps. Feeling ur competing adds to stress #ELTChat>True |
| 9:29 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: Very important to discover teachers’ passions and encourage them to bring that into their professional lives. #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | KarenInGreece: | @rliberni @sandymillin @bcnpaul1 Or school owners are business managers + care more about profits than teachers and development #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | cioccas: | RT @shaznosel: @ShellTerrell @springrose12 #eltchat agree! Think we would all burn out if our ss didn’t love us..keep going for them |
| 9:29 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @shaznosel: @ShellTerrell @springrose12 #eltchat agree! Think we would all burn out if our ss didn’t love us..keep going for them |
| 9:29 pm | esolcourses: | @Marisa_C so do I. Not that I would want to join the ranks of the “phone it in”, “9 to 5″ brigade. Defeats the object, IMO. #ELTChat |
| 9:29 pm | bcnpaul1: | @annapires that is a real shame, but seems to be happening all over. why can’t govt’s see that gd education is so so important #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @CeciELT: @teacher_prix Even worse when you meet mockery or people undermining it -> And they do that! Don’t they? #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | CeciELT: | @rliberni Agree with you Berni, but it makes it extra hard to achieve, to go on. Feeling support is key #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | @DinaDobrou When I hear stories or see what other teachers doing! I’m inspired #Eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | cioccas: | RT @annapires: Very important to discover teachers’ passions and encourage them to bring that into their professional lives. #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | sandymillin: | @eltbakery As a wise man once said “I’m a teacher all the time” #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @ISILBOY: I get it from u guys! RT @ShellTerrell @CeciELT: Emotional support is essential to me.I get that from physical staffroom & PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:29 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @eltbakery As a wise man once said “I’m a teacher all the time” #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | cioccas: | RT @ShellTerrell: @DinaDobrou When I hear stories or see what other teachers doing! I’m inspired #Eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @annapires: Very important to discover teachers’ passions and encourage them to bring that into their professional lives. #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | naomishema: | RT @sandymillin: @eltbakery As a wise man once said “I’m a teacher all the time” #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | springrose12: | RT agree @annapires Very important to discover teachers’ passions and encourage them to bring that into their professional lives. #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | bcnpaul1: | @sandymillin i think it might be #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | shaznosel: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @vladkaslniecko: well, like in many other jobs where u work w/ people…Ts need respect and recognition to avoid burn out #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! Key! RT @annapires: Vry important to discover teachers’ passions & encourage them to bring that into their professional lives #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | Fuertesun: | Passion the key #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | CeciELT: | @teacher_prix I think it has to do with the competition feeling most times. Some ppl feel if you succeed you’ll take their place #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @ShellTerrell @fionamau Freedom Writers–LOVE IT! that’s what i meant…u need someone 2 talk 2 and someone who understands it #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | web20education: | #YahooMail 2.0 Your Favorite Email Is Now Faster, Safer , easier #edtech20 #edtools http://www.luciandumateachweb20.eu/page7.php #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | esolcourses: | RT @Marisa_C RT @annapires V. important to discover teachers’ passions & encourage them to bring that into their professional lives #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | CeciELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: Yes! Key! RT @annapires: Vry important to discover teachers’ passions & encourage them to bring that into their professional lives #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | SueannaN: | Yes but what to do when passion missing because depressed?#ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | cioccas: | @vladkaslniecko @Fuertesun And encouraging Ts to share that passion with colleagues! #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | @CeciELT sure, true but sometimes you just have to be bloody-minded and stand alone, scary but important #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | sedayyildirim: | @bcnpaul1 and somettimes the reverse , they choose being managers as they don’t have skills to teach well #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | sandymillin: | @ShellTerrell @tutortek Don’t think it should be a fixed time of day, but every1 should have at least a couple of hours 4 them/day #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | Fuertesun: | How do we motivate ourselves? #eltchat TESOL conference this wkend |
| 9:30 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great question! RT @SueAnnan: Yes but what to do when passion missing because depressed? #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | cioccas: | RT @SueAnnan: Yes but what to do when passion missing because depressed?#ELTchat < Share own passion, hope to reignite others ? |
| 9:31 pm | CeciELT: | @SueAnnan I think professional help is really important Sue. Depression is serious business. #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | sandymillin: | RT @annapires: Very important to discover teachers’ passions and encourage them 2 bring that into their professional lives. #ELTchat<like4SS |
| 9:31 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Fuertesun: Passion the key #eltchat So what makes us all have it and how do we get others to share in it? |
| 9:31 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @sedayyildirim: @bcnpaul1 & somettimes the reverse , they choose being managers as they don’t have skills to teach well >lol-yes #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | katekidney: | The climate of state schools and private languge schools in connection to the burnout of their teachers would need a research! #eltchat |
| 9:31 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ShellTerrell I am too, but sometimes I don’t know where to start. So much to do, so little time! #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | ShellTerrell: | @SueAnnan I find Skyping with my PLN & having shoulder to cry on really helps! #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @CeciELT: When you’re burnout being surrounded by Ts who aren’t just makes it worse #eltchat -> The other way round too! Pull U down! |
| 9:31 pm | eltbakery: | I’ve visited a language school where Ts were given awards at the end of the semester.High competition in the air, but a valid idea? #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat problem is the burned out teacher don’t want to come to conferences or attend workshops, which could help them! |
| 9:31 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @annapires: My point being that teachers need to be able to find the support they need within their institution. #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | SueannaN: | @cioccas trying that. Spent an hour today trying to encourage him to come to IAtefl #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | JoHart: | #eltchat Hard to quit at given time of day with a global PLN Breaks in the day when I read/don’t think of work are helpful for me |
| 9:31 pm | vickyloras: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @shaznosel: @ShellTerrell @springrose12 #eltchat agree! Think we would all burn out if our ss didn’t love us..keep going for them |
| 9:31 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ShellTerrell: @SueAnnan I find Skyping with my PLN & having shoulder to cry on really helps! #ELTChat > Later????? |
| 9:32 pm | SueannaN: | @ShellTerrell yes, but he does have a PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! RT @vladkaslniecko: well, like in many other jobs where u work w/ people…Ts need respect and recognition to avoid burn out #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | CeciELT: | @eltbakery I think giving awards only makes the competition worse, makes some jealous #ELTchat |
| 9:32 pm | cioccas: | @teacher_prix: RT @CeciELT: being surrounded by burnout Ts pulls U down! #ELTchat < Absolutely! |
| 9:32 pm | shaznosel: | @DinaDobrou @CeciELT #eltchat true..i think if you believe in yourself, competion doesn’t come into it..but annoys you from others = stress! |
| 9:32 pm | Fuertesun: | @naomishema yes how to motivate the unmotivated? #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | @sedayyildirim I think his them and us is unhelpful ultimately we’re all on the same train #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | SueannaN: | @ShellTerrell doesn’t have a PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | chrisemdin: | Teachers are always encouraged when they know that their challenges are not unique to them. #ELTchat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Great question! RT @SueAnnan: Yes but what to do when passion missing because depressed? #ELTchat |
| 9:32 pm | mmgrinberg: | Positive memories can be revisited! It’s crucial to have a collection of internal resources that would bring u back 2 life #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Marisa_C Totally agree! 1 of top burn-out/depression issues I hear fr teachers is when they say Tchrs hate them 4 their work #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | SErwin: | RT @jorech: Make sure kids are purposefully working harder than u. Replace multiple “completion” tasks w/ fewer “creations #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | esolcourses: | @cioccas @ShellTerrell @sueannan depression is an illness, & if teachers are suffering burnout because of it, they need to get help #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | waykatewit: | RT @naomishema: #eltchat problem is the burned out teacher don’t want to come to conferences or attend workshops, which could help them! |
| 9:32 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat sorry for typos – can’t type fast enough! |
| 9:32 pm | fionamau: | RT @vladkaslniecko: well, like in many other jobs where u work w/ people…Ts need respect and recognition to avoid burn out #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | rliberni: | RT @CeciELT: @SueAnnan I think professional help is really important Sue. Depression is serious business. #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @CeciELT @eltbakery true! |
| 9:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | @SueAnnan He has you & that’s a start! #ELTChat |
| 9:33 pm | cioccas: | @esolcourses Yes, agree, I’m thinking of before the depression, ways of avoiding it, I hope #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | fionamau: | RT @naomishema: #eltchat No one has mentioned house work and family! >> this is why I’m struggling to keep up! … |
| 9:33 pm | sandymillin: | Seems like burnout is a vicious cycle #eltchat How can you break out from it? Can we help others to escape it? |
| 9:33 pm | vickyloras: | RT @naomishema: #eltchat problem is the burned out teacher don’t want to come to conferences or attend workshops, which could help them! |
| 9:33 pm | Fuertesun: | @Shaunwilden My passions outside the job help me #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 tip! RT @sandymillin: Don’t think it should be a fixed time of day, but every1 should have at least a couple of hrs 4 them/day #eltchat |
| 9:33 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @sandymillin: Seems like burnout is a vicious cycle #eltchat How can you break out from it? Can we help others to escape it? |
| 9:33 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @fionamau: RT @naomishema: #eltchat No one has mentioned house work and family! >> this is why I’m struggling to keep up! … > |
| 9:33 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @ShellTerrell: @SueAnnan He has you & that’s a start! #ELTChat Well said |
| 9:34 pm | sandymillin: | RT @chrisemdin: Teachers are always encouraged when they know that their challenges are not unique to them. #ELTchat |
| 9:34 pm | vickyloras: | @naomishema agree Naomi,conferences and workshops give motivation and that extra spark! #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @CeciELT: Fostering an environment that doesn’t give much space to competition helps. #ELTChat => Agreed! |
| 9:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | @sandymillin I have a regular movie/music “date” with myself every Sunday & allow myself to sleep in #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @Marisa_C: The microclimate of an institution is crucial to causing t-burnout and lack of motivation to do a good job #ELTchat |
| 9:34 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 tip! RT @sandymillin: Don’t think it should be a fixed time of day, but every1 should have at least a couple of hrs 4 them/day #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat is this the same chat that I left several hours ago! Wow u r all so committed : ) |
| 9:34 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @ShellTerrell: @sandymillin I have a regular movie/music “date” with myself every Sunday & allow myself to sleep in #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | Marisa_C: | @SueAnnan Have you invited this colleague to see this #ELTChat? Will he ever see these tweets? |
| 9:34 pm | rliberni: | @JoHart but don’t you think sometimes we like to play the downtrodden? #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @vladkaslniecko: u need someone 2 talk 2 and someone who understands it #eltchat |
| 9:34 pm | waykatewit: | @Marisa_C @sandymillin 1. by showing them how to do old things new way #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | shaznosel: | @Marisa_C #eltchat so true..back to the self respect/development issue – that’s why we’re here now and not sleeping = burn out!! |
| 9:35 pm | eltbakery: | @lu_bodeman RT To me,burnout meant taking worries home.Once I left them at work,things got much lighter #ELTchat Agree,but smtmes inevitable |
| 9:35 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @bcnpaul1 @fionamau @naomishema Juggling career & family life is the hardest part for me!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | waykatewit: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @sandymillin: Seems like burnout is a vicious cycle #eltchat How can you break out from it? Can we help others to escape it? |
| 9:35 pm | fionamau: | RT @CeciELT: Emotional support is essential to me. Thankfully I get that from physical staffroom and loads from my PLN #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: @bcnpaul1 @fionamau @naomishema Juggling career & family life is the hardest part for me!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | mmgrinberg: | @esolcourses Totally agree! ‘Burnout’ can indeed be a medical problem that needs professional treatment #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | JanineThrows: | RT @chrisemdin: Teachers are always encouraged when they know that their challenges are not unique to them. #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | ISILBOY: | I usually get that energy from my students, they are the ones to avoid any burnout #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT agreed but then you have to get tough and see it through if you believe in it prove it this brings energy #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | springrose12: | @fionamau @naomishema I agree, we have responsibilities at home, too. It’s quite hard to manage everything and can be overwhelming. #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | chrisemdin: | Sharing your successes only goes so far. Share your challenges and struggles and how you overcame them #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | rliberni: | @annapires agreed keeping all the balls in the air is very hard- something always suffers #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | FrauSusi: | RT @annapires: Very important to discover teachers’ passions and encourage them to bring that into their professional lives. #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | sedayyildirim: | @JoHart @rliberni sooner or later I hope #eltchat whatever it is , I love this train ! |
| 9:35 pm | waykatewit: | @Marisa_C @sandymillin 2. by showing teacher how to redice planning time with still great results #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | rliberni: | RT @chrisemdin: Sharing your successes only goes so far. Share your challenges and struggles and how you overcame them #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | shaznosel: | RT @naomishema: #eltchat problem is the burned out teacher don’t want to come to conferences or attend workshops, which could help them! |
| 9:35 pm | BethCagnol: | #ELTchat We should keep in mind that having an off day is ok sometimes. |
| 9:35 pm | ShellTerrell: | I seriously admire educators who do this! RT @annapires: Juggling career & family life is the hardest part for me!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | CeciELT: | I go out for chatting on a (somewhat) regular basis with other teachers from my school. We vent, we laugh and leave lighter #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | vickyloras: | RT @ShellTerrell: @Marisa_C Totally agree! 1 of top burn-out/depression issues I hear fr teachers is when they say Tchrs hate them 4 their work #eltchat |
| 9:35 pm | KarenInGreece: | @sjhannam Hi Sara new chat now on how we can help burnt-out colleagues #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTchat We should keep in mind that having an off day is ok sometimes. |
| 9:36 pm | cioccas: | Avoiding burnout – supporting and sharing with colleagues, sharing the passion, the joys, also the challenges and the pain #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bethcagnol: #ELTchat We should keep in mind that having an off day is ok sometimes. > and no guilt trips |
| 9:36 pm | SueannaN: | @Marisa_C No. Probably not, although I could show him the summary #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | alicemercer: | @ShellTerrell I find that online PLN helps me connect with my fellow teachers in my school better in some ways. #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @CeciELT: I go out for chatting on a (somewhat) regular basis with other teachers from my school. We vent, we laugh and leave lighter #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | ShellTerrell: | So important! RT @chrisemdin: Sharing your successes only goes so far. Share your challenges & struggles & how you overcame them #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat some educators talk about burnout more in terms of ‘teacher guilt’. Never ending job both at work and home. Emotionally demanding. |
| 9:36 pm | cioccas: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @bethcagnol: #ELTchat We should keep in mind that having an off day is ok sometimes. > and no guilt trips |
| 9:36 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @bethcagnol: #ELTchat We should keep in mind that having an off day is ok sometimes. – what’s a day off? |
| 9:36 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT sure, true but sometimes you just have to be bloody-minded and stand alone, scary but important #eltchat => Yep! =) |
| 9:36 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C I’ve invited oh-so-many colleagues and even the academic director but only my DOS showed up once! #ELTchat-Pestered them 4 months! |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @cioccas: Avoiding burnout – supporting and sharing with colleagues, sharing the passion, the joys, also the challenges and the pain #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | bcnpaul1: | juggling roles is one of the biggest issues that bosses just don’t get! being a parent & having to teach til 9.30pm for e.g #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTchat We should keep in mind that having an off day is ok sometimes. |
| 9:36 pm | fionamau: | RT @ShellTerrell: Agree! Confidence important! RT @shaznosel: #eltchat as bosses do not praise, you believe in yourself..not easy at times esp for new tchrs |
| 9:36 pm | CeciELT: | @rliberni You’re right Berni Seeing positive results in the end of the run should be enough motivation #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @alicemercer: @ShellTerrell I find that online PLN helps me connect with my fellow teachers in my school better in some ways. #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | naomishema: | RT @bcnpaul1: juggling roles is one of the biggest issues that bosses just don’t get! being a parent & having to teach til 9.30pm for e.g #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | chrisemdin: | RT @CeciELT: I go out for chatting on a (somewhat) regular basis with other teachers from my school. We vent, we laugh and leave lighter #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | ELTmethods: | don’t wait too long when in doubt of suffering from b.o. Get professional help. #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | ShellTerrell: | Great point! RT @alicemercer: I find that online PLN helps me connect w my fellow teachers in my school better in some ways. #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | esolcourses: | @cioccas difficult. one, I think.. if it’s related to workplace culture, then switching jobs may be the easiest/best option #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | cioccas: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat … burnout more in terms of ‘teacher guilt’. Never ending job both at work and home. Emotionally demanding. |
| 9:36 pm | shaznosel: | @naomishema #eltchat Whats the difference between burnt out and don’t care..the line is fine. |
| 9:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat some educators talk about burnout more in terms of ‘teacher guilt’. Never ending job both at work and home. Emotionally demanding. |
| 9:37 pm | sandymillin: | @Shaunwilden Me thinks an off day and a day off are two very different things #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | @Marisa_C Hand raised #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @lu_bodeman: burnout meant taking worries home with me. Once I left them at work, things got much lighter. Took me yrs to learn. #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat esp. in current climate where so much of teachers work is unrewarded. Exceptionally high demands in period of fiscal cuts. |
| 9:37 pm | DinaDobrou: | @CeciELT @rliberni You’re rewarded by your sts as mentioned earlier. #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | ISILBOY: | If we can cause any positive change in our ss’ lives, then we can always keep our motivation #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm | cioccas: | RT @sandymillin: @Shaunwilden Me thinks an off day and a day off are two very different things #ELTchat < Me too |
| 9:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @IsilBoy: If we can cause any positive change in our ss’ lives, then we can always keep our motivation #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm | cioccas: | RT @ISILBOY: If we can cause any positive change in our ss’ lives, then we can always keep our motivation #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @bethcagnol: #ELTchat We should keep in mind that having an off day is ok sometimes. – what’s a day off? |
| 9:37 pm | CeciELT: | @teacher_prix @lu_bodeman I have to learn that! I bring a heavy load with me every night #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | esolcourses: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat some educators talk about burnout more in terms of ‘teacher guilt’. Never ending job both at work and home. Emotionally demanding. |
| 9:37 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @Fuertesun: Passion the key #eltchat So what makes us all have it and how do we get others to share in it? |
| 9:37 pm | JoHart: | @rliberni Perhaps – but I think some justification eg in our re-structure lecturers reduced senior managers increased #eltchat |
| 9:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @IsilBoy: If we can cause any positive change in our ss’ lives, then we can always keep our motivation good point #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | BethCagnol: | #ELTchat having an off day is ok. But if your off days turn to weeks then months you should be worried. What think you? |
| 9:38 pm | waykatewit: | RT @shaznosel: @naomishema #eltchat Whats the difference between burnt out and don’t care..the line is fine. |
| 9:38 pm | alicemercer: | @ShellTerrell I like to hear when things go wrong that others learn from. Makes us all more human #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | naomishema: | @shaznosel When you stop wanting to learn and improve your teaching your are burning out! #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | shaznosel: | @ShellTerrell @annapires #eltchat tell me about it..the guilt burns you out..family or work? |
| 9:38 pm | vickyloras: | @naomishema Yes,that’s the hard part : ( if they come to one,then they won’t stop! #eltchat |
| 9:38 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @BethCagnol: #ELTchat having an off day is ok. But if your off days turn to weeks then months you should be worried. What think you? |
| 9:38 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat esp. in current climate where so much of teachers work is unrewarded. Exceptionally high demands in period of fiscal cuts. |
| 9:38 pm | waykatewit: | @shaznosel @naomishema #ELTchat – ? |
| 9:38 pm | agagliar: | RT @chrisemdin: Sharing your successes only goes so far. Share your challenges and struggles and how you overcame them #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | Marisa_C: | @ShellTerrell He he – you pestered them too! You don’t count! #ELTChat |
| 9:38 pm | DinaDobrou: | @shaznosel @naomishema Burn out occurs…Don’t care is an attitude, I guess. #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | teacher_prix: | Love what you do and believe in it!!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat burnt out colleagues need understanding, not judgement. Not enough account taken of time in life i.e. family, aging relatives |
| 9:38 pm | esolcourses: | RT @DinaDobrou: @shaznosel @naomishema Burn out occurs…Don’t care is an attitude, I guess. #ELTchat ] agree. |
| 9:38 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @bethcagnol: #ELTchat having an off day is ok. But if your off days turn to weeks then months you shoul? (cont) http://deck.ly/~hZRTu |
| 9:38 pm | fionamau: | RT @ShellTerrell: teaching basically seemed to interfere w marriage #ELTChat >Been there, done that. But it’s not teaching; it’s dedication |
| 9:39 pm | vickyloras: | RT @DinaDobrou: @shaznosel @naomishema Burn out occurs…Don’t care is an attitude, I guess. #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @naomishema: When you stop wanting to learn and improve your teaching your are burning out! #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | BethCagnol: | #ELTchat I’d be interested to know if burnout occurs more often in areas where teachers don’t have access to a staffroom. |
| 9:39 pm | katekidney: | Burnout should not be a vicious cycle if handled professionally! #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | rliberni: | @JoHart I agree this is power over real need – (like the banks ) we’re scared to try a different model #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | CeciELT: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat burnt out colleagues need understanding, not judgement. Not enough acct taken of time in life > Wise words! |
| 9:39 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bethcagnol: #ELTchat I’d be interested to know if burnout occurs more often in areas where teachers don’t have access to a staffroom. |
| 9:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @katekidney: Burnout should not be a vicious cycle if handled professionally! #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | TeacherLola: | ?@Marisa_C: @SueAnnan Have you invited this colleague to see this #ELTChat? Will he ever see these tweets??/ YEP!.. but they´re not into yet |
| 9:39 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat performance rated as entirely in the hands of individual – not contextualised enough in terms of each life being uniquely demanding |
| 9:39 pm | naomishema: | @shaznosel #eltchat family guilt is hardest! |
| 9:39 pm | cunningandy: | RT @ShellTerrell: A little late but the support from educators online really has helped me with burn-out! I think PLNs a must for educators #Eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | cioccas: | @shaznosel @ShellTerrell @annapires No family, it’s ALL work! #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | eltbakery: | RT @CeciELT @teacher_prix @lu_bodeman I have to learn that! I bring a heavy load with me every night #ELTchat Me 3! |
| 9:39 pm | naomishema: | RT @teacher_prix: Love what you do and believe in it!!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | sandymillin: | @bethcagnol Has there been any research on when burnout normally occurs? Under what circumstances? #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: Very important to discover teachers’ passions and encourage them to bring that into their professional lives. #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | CeciELT: | @Marisa_C @bethcagnol I don’t think so…but then again I’ve never been in such situation #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @bethcagnol Has there been any research on when burnout normally occurs? Under what circumstances? #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | sjhannam: | @CeciELT #eltchat in all careers don’t people have ups and downs of passion and interest. Teaching is the same surely? |
| 9:40 pm | vickyloras: | RT @rliberni: RT @IsilBoy: If we can cause any positive change in our ss’ lives, then we can always keep our motivation good point #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | Marisa_C: | So? tonight 3 out of hundreds of trainees here – and one hiding in my DM’s… #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | rliberni: | RT @sjhannam: @CeciELT #eltchat in all careers don’t people have ups and downs of passion and interest. Teaching is the same surely? |
| 9:40 pm | Shaunwilden: | @bethcagnol: You mean because teachers feel isolated without a staffroom? #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | esolcourses: | RT @CeciELT: RT @sjhannam: #eltchat burnt out colleagues need understanding, not judgement. Not enough acct taken of time in life #ELTChat |
| 9:40 pm | fionamau: | RT @Fuertesun: Passion the key #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | shaznosel: | RT @rliberni: RT @IsilBoy: If we can cause any positive change in our ss’ lives, then we can always keep our motivation good point #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | ShellTerrell: | Getting my family to help w my planning was gr8 fun but definitely a fine balance needed & can’t expect them always 2 understand #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | rliberni: | RT @esolcourses: RT @CeciELT: RT @sjhannam: #eltchat burnt out colleagues need understanding, not judgement. Not enough acct taken of time in life #ELTChat |
| 9:41 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @sandymillin: Has there been any research on when burnout normally occurs? Under what circumstances? >check teachers tv archive #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | fionamau: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT sure, true but sometimes you just have to be bloody-minded and stand alone, scary but important #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | CeciELT: | @sjhannam I guess you’re right… SO what makes Ts different and more prone to it? #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | BethCagnol: | @Shaunwilden Exactly. Reassess the effort, the reason and maybe even the day job. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:41 pm | SeanJamesOliver: | With most professionals I know doing jobs of 2-3 people (“productivity”, they call it) Seems like burnout much more common lately #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | SueannaN: | @bethcagnol depends whetehr the option is a toxic staffroom though #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | teacher_prix: | @lu_bodeman: TEAMWORK is always the key!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! RT @dawnbheag: for me, having admin who are positive, innovative, not just about stats & “appearances” helps w/ my outlook. #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 no idea but v interesting question #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | sandymillin: | @rliberni @sjhannam True that every career has ups and downs, but think teaching makes it more obv – w/ ppl all the time #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @bethcagnol surely! I miss my work after two or three days…when u miss your work, it’s good sign, i guess #eltchat |
| 9:41 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @sjhannam @CeciELT teaching is worse – you give away a little bit of yourself t every lesson |
| 9:41 pm | cioccas: | @rliberni @sjhannam @CeciELT Can have burnout in any career, yes – been there, done that, trying to avoid it in teaching #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | mmgrinberg: | I guess it’s quite imptnt to get yr ideas implemented. If you can’t teach it – at least post it, tweet it! #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | MisterMikeLCC: | Leaving disciplinaries and safeguarding issues at work is really important. #ELTchat knowing when to refer and who to refer to is essential |
| 9:42 pm | rliberni: | @CeciELT I don’t think we have enough real status for our profession – that’s one thing #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | ShellTerrell: | @annapires I go on a guilt trip I don’t spend enough time with Rosco as silly as that sounds #ELTChat |
| 9:42 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT I don’t think we have enough real status for our profession – that’s one thing #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | cioccas: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @bethcagnol … I miss my work after two or three days…when u miss your work, it’s good sign, i guess #eltchat Me too! |
| 9:42 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT I don’t think we have enough real status for our profession – that’s one thing #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | KarenInGreece: | @sandymillin @bethcagnol Yes there’s the Maslach Burnout Inventory #ELTchat |
| 9:42 pm | CeciELT: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT I don’t think we have enough real status for our profession – that’s one thing #eltchat > that’s true in Brazil. |
| 9:42 pm | leahmacvie: | RT @ShellTerrell: Yes! RT @dawnbheag: for me, having admin who are positive, innovative, not just about stats & “appearances” helps w/ my outlook. #eltchat |
| 9:42 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @KarenInGreece: @sandymillin @bethcagnol Yes there’s the Maslach Burnout Inventory #ELTchat > Link pls? |
| 9:42 pm | springrose12: | @shaznosel the more responsibility I took on, the harder it got. Sometimes we have parent evenings at the same time with my kids. #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | Fuertesun: | @rliberni Not enough status for tchrs in public schools and TEFL tchrs glorified babysitters #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | BethCagnol: | Assembly line teaching falls into this category. If you’re too dependent on a book or a syllabus, then it’s time to reassess. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:43 pm | cioccas: | @CeciELT @rliberni Yes, in Australia, Ts are expected to be all things to all people, and often not appreciated it when they try #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @bethcagnol: #ELTchat having an off day is ok. But if ur off days turn to weeks & months you shld be worrie? (cont) http://deck.ly/~z06A1 |
| 9:43 pm | katekidney: | My colleague at work stayed at home from work for 5 months and has come back recently. (psychic breakdown caused by burnout)! ( #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @BethCagnol: Assembly line teaching falls into this category. If you’re too dependent on a book or a syllabus, then it’s time to reassess. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:43 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annapires: Very true! RT @rliberni @CeciELT I don’t think we have enough real status for our profession – that’s one thing #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | ShellTerrell: | The enormous bureaucracy we deal w as educators is stressful! I know getting rid of it would alleviate a majority of my stress #Eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | waykatewit: | RT @mmgrinberg: I guess it’s quite imptnt to get yr ideas implemented. If you can’t teach it – at least post it, tweet it! #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | CeciELT: | @sjhannam Agreed… Add to that lots of studying, going the extra mile for STs, the # of hrs u have to work to make decent money… #ELTChat |
| 9:43 pm | cioccas: | RT @bethcagnol: Assembly line teaching.. < Need variety, change, new challenges #ELTCHAT |
| 9:43 pm | ruralteacher: | Agreed RT @rliberni: @CeciELT I don’t think we have enough real status for our profession – that’s one thing #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | Fuertesun: | @annapires def my cats and dogs are my babaies! #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | rliberni: | @annapires they sure are ! (just lost our little dog) #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: RT @bethcagnol Assembly line teaching… If you’re too dependent on a book or a syllabus, then it’s time to reassess. #ELTCHAT < absolutely! |
| 9:44 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat few jobs require people to give 110% every day for relatively low wages – the norm for most teachers – and to continually retrain |
| 9:44 pm | fionamau: | @CeciELT giving awards #ELTchat Rewards no, bt shld spot teachers’ strong points & delegate tasks, give credit – kno & appreciate yr staff! |
| 9:44 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @shaznosel: no staff room here we are not encouraged to chat -weird in uk we always let off steam in staff room #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @IsilBoy: We do have a great staffroom here! I don’t need one at school which was quite useless last semester #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | vickyloras: | RT @CeciELT: I go out for chatting on a (somewhat) regular basis with other teachers from my school. We vent, we laugh and leave lighter #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | cioccas: | @CeciELT @sjhannam Yes, amount of extra study and continuous PD needed higher in teaching than anything else I’ve ever done #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | Marisa_C: | @CeciELT I think you raised an important point – the no of hours we have to work to make a decent living #ELTchat our time in class is X 2 |
| 9:44 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: RT @IsilBoy: We do have a great staffroom here! I don’t need one at school which was quite useless last semester #eltchat |
| 9:44 pm | BethCagnol: | @sandymillin I know there’s been a lot of research in the States re: public school teachers (average 4 years till burnout) #ELTCHAT |
| 9:44 pm | SueannaN: | @Marisa_C the link is on the bit we got from@esolcourses #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | sjhannam: | @CeciELT #eltchat. Exactly. Hugely demanding and a lot of personal responsibility. |
| 9:44 pm | CeciELT: | @fionamau Agreed Fiona! #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat The division of vacations matters. In Israel its based on holidays and this year we’ve been almost 4 months without 1 -tough! |
| 9:45 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @bethcagnol: I know there’s been a lot of research in the States re: public school teachers (average 4 years till burnout) #ELTCHAT |
| 9:45 pm | eltbakery: | RT @mmgrinberg I guess it’s quite imptnt 2 get yr ideas implemented.If u can’t teach it-at least post it,tweet it! #eltchat Agree PLN helps! |
| 9:45 pm | springrose12: | @shaznosel Then it’s my husband who goes to our children’s meetings but I keep contact with my kids’ teachers regularly #eltchat |
| 9:45 pm | ShellTerrell: | @bethcagnol @sandymillin Did the research say what were the contributing factors? #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | katekidney: | I am sure she doesn?t want any repetition-she goes to her psychologist regulary and has a bag of pills. But does it help??? #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | BethCagnol: | @CeciELT @marisa_c Never been in a situation where there’s no staffroom? If so UR LUCKY! #ELTCHAT |
| 9:45 pm | cioccas: | We have great staffroom/s and share all the time, also in lunchroom and cafe #ELTchat Want to extend that online to share wider |
| 9:45 pm | KarenInGreece: | Article on burnout by @lclandfield http://bit.ly/eVG9E4 #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | CeciELT: | @Marisa_C Same here… Lots of in-class hours needed + hours studying, preparing, correcting, going after PD… #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @KarenInGreece: Article on burnout by @lclandfield http://bit.ly/eVG9E4 #ELTchat |
| 9:46 pm | cioccas: | RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C Same here… Lots of in-class hours needed + hours studying, preparing, correcting, going after PD… #ELTchat |
| 9:46 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat increasingly PD is seen as individual responsibility both financially & burden of stress. Is it any wonder some people say no. |
| 9:46 pm | springrose12: | @shaznosel because they’re teachers themselves, they understand my situation and they’re very sympathetic #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | vickyloras: | RT @ShellTerrell: The enormous bureaucracy we deal w as educators is stressful! I know getting rid of it would alleviate a majority of my stress #Eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat increasingly PD is seen as individual responsibility both financially & burden of stress. Is it any wonder some people say no. |
| 9:46 pm | DinaDobrou: | @sandymillin @rliberni @sjhannam True. It’s like you can’t let anyone know you had a bad day. It’s like performing all the time. #ELTChat |
| 9:46 pm | BethCagnol: | @sjhannam @cecielt Yes, but the ups and downs often “hurt” more in teaching I think cause it’s an “in the spotlight” profession. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:46 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat increasingly PD is seen as individual responsibility both financially & burden of stress. Is it any wonder some people say no. |
| 9:46 pm | Marisa_C: | Non-teachers do not understand the intensity of teaching and how time counts as doubkle and more sometimes #ELTchat |
| 9:46 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat as a person who’s invested hours of time and large chunks of income on continual training I sometimes wonder why TBH. |
| 9:46 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @KarenInGreece: Article on burnout by @lclandfield http://bit.ly/eVG9E4 #ELTchat |
| 9:46 pm | JoHart: | @ShellTerrell Agree re bureaucracy. Accountability is good – often prof judgement regarded as insuff w/o huge “paper trail” backup #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | ShellTerrell: | I prefer online staffroom because having to drive to institute on day off not ideal & traffic stresses me out #Eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @Marisa_C: Non-teachers do not understand the intensity of teaching and how time counts as doubkle and more sometimes #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | DinaDobrou: | @rliberni @CeciELT What do you maen by real status? #ELTChat |
| 9:47 pm | esolcourses: | @CeciELT @sjhannam lack of appreciation, temprary contracts, having unpaid work dumped on you as & when, etc, can grind people down #ELTChat |
| 9:47 pm | CeciELT: | @sjhannam And on top of that, most Ts I know r emotionally committed to their work and students. We get involved. That adds even + #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @KarenInGreece: Article on burnout by @lclandfield http://bit.ly/eVG9E4 #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | rliberni: | @annapires yes, why don’t they ?#eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | cioccas: | RT @Marisa_C: Non-teachers do not understand the intensity of teaching and how time counts as double and more stimes #ELTchat < Too true! |
| 9:47 pm | SueannaN: | RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C Same here… Lots of in-class hours needed + hours studying, preparing, correcting, going after PD… #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | katekidney: | Prevention-clear, recognition-difficult, but can be done. Cure???#ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | esolcourses: | RT @cioccas: RT @Marisa_C: Non-teachers do not understand the intensity of teaching and how time counts as double and more stimes #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | sedayyildirim: | staff is lucky in my school : teachers’ room + kitchen in the roof motivating ! #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | BethCagnol: | @Shaunwilden Yes, teachers definitely feel isolated w/o a staffroom. This is the norm in France, I find. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:47 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: @bcnpaul1 @naomishema Juggling career & family life is the hardest part for me!!! #ELTchat Me too.Single mom. But love it. |
| 9:47 pm | KarenInGreece: | emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, personal accomplishment: Maslach Burnout Inventory http://bit.ly/hAIgWO #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | sandymillin: | @annapires I often put on music in class (even ask my SS 1st now since I was told off by @Harmerj) #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | Marisa_C: | @KarenInGreece thanks Karen #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | ShellTerrell: | @JoHart Eventually I dream of day when politicians/lobbyists/business folks don’t run edu policy but real educators #Eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | springrose12: | @ShellTerrell my sentiment exactly:) If it was up to me the schools would be 3 days a week, rest would be field trips, seriously.#eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | fionamau: | RT @springrose12: @fionamau @naomishema I agree, we have responsibilities at home, too. It’s quite hard to manage everything and can be overwhelming. #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @KarenInGreece: emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, personal accomplishment: Maslach Burnout Inventory http://bit.ly/hAIgWO #ELTchat |
| 9:48 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat – maybe so many tchrs are burnt out that’s why they are not here..switch off and forget??? |
| 9:48 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @bethcagnol surely! I miss my work after two or three days…when u miss your work, it’s good sign, i guess #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Marisa_C: Non-teachers do not understand the intensity of teaching and how time counts as doubkle and more sometimes #ELTchat I agree |
| 9:48 pm | vickyloras: | RT @CeciELT: @Marisa_C Same here… Lots of in-class hours needed + hours studying, preparing, correcting, going after PD… #ELTchat |
| 9:48 pm | eltbakery: | RT @Marisa_C Non-teachers do not understand the intensity of teaching and how time counts as double and more sometimes #ELTchat Agree! |
| 9:48 pm | naomishema: | RT @bethcagnol: “Yes, but the ups and downs often “hurt” more” Well, I think because you know a pupil may feel hurt!. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:48 pm | rliberni: | @DinaDobrou I mean compared with other professions who train as much we are a bit bottom drawer and rates etc are decreasing #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | ISILBOY: | Def! @ShellTerrell: I prefer online staffroom because having to drive to institute on day off not ideal & traffic stresses me out #Eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | ShellTerrell: | Gr8 idea! RT @springrose12: If it was up to me the schools would be 3 days a week, rest would be field trips, seriously #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | CeciELT: | And of course if a student doesn’t pass or achieve the objective: it’s always the teachers fault. (or so ppl try to be) #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | Shaunwilden: | @bethcagnol Agreed, met many a tchr who says they feel isolated even if they work for a school but away from the main building #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @CeciELT: And of course if a student doesn’t pass or achieve the objective: it’s always the teachers fault. (or so ppl try to be) #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | LucyBlakemore: | Reflections: Twitter, learning and teaching: http://t.co/kxBD280 #edtech #eltchat #esl #efl |
| 9:48 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @KarenInGreece: emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, personal accomplishment: Maslach Burnout Inventory http://bit.ly/hAIgWO #ELTchat |
| 9:48 pm | fionamau: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat esp. in current climate where so much of teachers work is unrewarded. Exceptionally high demands in period of fiscal cuts. |
| 9:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @bethcagnol Agreed, met many a tchr who says they feel isolated even if they work for a school but away from the main building #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @KarenInGreece: emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, personal accomplishment: Maslach Burnout Inventory http://bit.ly/hAIgWO #ELTchat |
| 9:48 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @esolcourses: @CeciELT @sjhannam lack of appreciation, temprary contracts, having unpaid work dumped on you as & when, etc, can grind people down #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Gr8 idea! RT @springrose12: If it was up to me the schools would be 3 days a week, rest would be field trips, seriously #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat having said that I can’t suppress my own need for self-development but I no longer expect it as a given in others. |
| 9:49 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @cioccas: RT @Marisa_C: Non-teachers do not understand the intensity of teaching and how time counts as double and more stimes #ELTchat < Too true! |
| 9:49 pm | fionamau: | RT @IsilBoy: If we can cause any positive change in our ss’ lives, then we can always keep our motivation #eltchat >> So true! |
| 9:49 pm | esolcourses: | RT @CeciELT: & of course if a student doesn’t pass or achieve the objective: it’s always the teachers fault. (or so ppl try to be) #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | SueannaN: | @ALXTraining Hi Alex. We are discussing teacher burnout. Your welcome to join in. Just use the #eltchat hashtag |
| 9:49 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @KarenInGreece: Article on burnout by @lclandfield http://bit.ly/eVG9E4 #ELTchat |
| 9:49 pm | Teacherhorizons: | so many tweets are happening right now. but which one of them are genuine teachers? #edchat #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | sandymillin: | @KarenInGreece Interesting that it covers human services, educators and general – we need our own category! #ELTchat |
| 9:49 pm | TeacherLola: | RT @CeciELT: And of course if a student doesn’t pass or achieve the objective: it’s always the teachers fault. (or so ppl try to be) #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | ShellTerrell: | @IsilBoy I think my coordinators mean well but really it just adds to my stress & meetings go on for 3hrs + #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | teacher_prix: | Have we discussed about PD yet? #ELTchat |
| 9:49 pm | naomishema: | RT @ShellTerrell: @IsilBoy I think my coordinators mean well but really it just adds to my stress & meetings go on for 3hrs + #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | DinaDobrou: | @CeciELT @rliberni Got it now. Same case in Greece. #ELTchat |
| 9:49 pm | fionamau: | RT @teacher_prix: Love what you do and believe in it!!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:49 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @shaznosel yes, to get rid of the burnout you need to take some effort – but you’re burnt out! |
| 9:49 pm | JoHart: | RT @ShellTerrell: @JoHart Eventually I dream of when politics/lobbyists/business don’t run edu policy but real eductrs #Eltchat < I wish! |
| 9:50 pm | rliberni: | @Teacherhorizons we all are – we know each other well from this forum #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @sandymillin I’ve been compliling a playlist on blip.fm with sts to play in class. #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | shaznosel: | @ShellTerrell @springrose12 #eltchat love this idea- seriously! Use language in the real world.. |
| 9:50 pm | waykatewit: | RT @shaznosel: #eltchat – maybe so many tchrs are burnt out that’s why they are not here..switch off and forget??? |
| 9:50 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @KarenInGreece: emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, personal accomplishment: Maslach Burnout Inventory http://bit.ly/hAIgWO #ELTchat |
| 9:50 pm | teacher_prix: | We have to handle lessons, crazy parents and… PD!!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | katekidney: | I guess when the real burnout happ, it´s severe. Friends, hobbies, family, may help. But main help would be the doctor and God.?#ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | cioccas: | @teacher_prix PD to reenergize and PD as part of the problem (increased workload expectations – the struggle to ‘keep up’) #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoHart: RT @ShellTerrell: @JoHart Eventually I dream of when politics/lobbyists/business don’t run edu policy but real eductrs #Eltchat < I wish! |
| 9:51 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @Marisa_C: So? tonight 3 out of hundreds of trainees here – and one hiding in my DM’s… #ELTchat He he he!!! =) |
| 9:51 pm | eltbakery: | RT @shaznosel -maybe so many tchrs are burnt out that’s why they are not here..switch off and forget? #eltchat this isnt switch off time 4me |
| 9:51 pm | alxtraining: | @SueAnnan – I needed a new subject to teach, a new challenge, something new to learn myself. #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C It’s a start…his/her own way of starting but we’ll see…(tell me the handle and I’ll pester yet one more! lol) #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | KarenInGreece: | @sandymillin I agree – we deserve our own category! #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | hmr_jp: | RT @barbsaka: @janetbianchini: Teaching Shakespeare to Teens via British Council site http://tinyurl.com/47tkre #ELTchat – looks full of fab ideas |
| 9:51 pm | fionamau: | RT @KarenInGreece: @sandymillin @bethcagnol Yes there’s the Maslach Burnout Inventory #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | ISILBOY: | Blended learning is all we need! 3 days f2f 2 days distance @ShellTerrell @springrose12 #eltchat |
| 9:51 pm | Marisa_C: | @teacher_prix you the fourth out here #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | shaznosel: | @esolcourses @CeciELT #eltchat – always in our minds..was in my fault or the institution?? more burn out! |
| 9:51 pm | chrisemdin: | #ELTchat and other twiiter teacher meet-ups should count as PD hours. Any administrators listening? #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | rliberni: | So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | fionamau: | RT @annapires: @ShellTerrell Not silly at all! Pets are family! #ELTchat |
| 9:52 pm | BethCagnol: | @Shaunwilden I was in Poland a week ago and was blown away at the quality of the staff rooms #ELTCHAT |
| 9:52 pm | Teacherhorizons: | @rliberni great! I can never tell sometimes as it feels like its a robot posting stuff to get people on to there site. Thanks #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | naomishema: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | SueannaN: | @ALXTraining I think that helps to avoid burnout if you can diversify, but when you are in the depths it’s too late #ELTchat |
| 9:52 pm | siwels196: | RT @KarenInGreece: emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, personal accomplishment: Maslach Burnout Inventory http://bit.ly/hAIgWO #ELTchat |
| 9:52 pm | Fuertesun: | @bethcagnol what blew yu away? #ELTCHAT |
| 9:52 pm | fionamau: | RT @Marisa_C: @CeciELT I think you raised an important point – the no of hours we have to work to make a decent living #ELTchat our time in class is X 2 |
| 9:52 pm | chrisemdin: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | cioccas: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat < So, how to convince others to join in? |
| 9:52 pm | esolcourses: | @cioccas @sjhannam agree, Lesley. Always the worry with casual staff that contracts won’t be renewed unless pass rates are high #eltchat - |
| 9:52 pm | CeciELT: | @shaznosel @esolcourses What about when it was the students’ fault – lack of commitment, effort? We’re still blamed #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | sandymillin: | I think we should make new teachers aware of the possibility of burnout immediately – they don’t get in 2 deep w/o knowing escape! #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | teacher_prix: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat =) |
| 9:52 pm | ShellTerrell: | Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d small plug #eltchat I think the #30goals definitely prescription for the burn-out problem |
| 9:53 pm | SueannaN: | RT @chrisemdin: #ELTchat and other twiiter teacher meet-ups should count as PD hours. Any administrators listening? #ELTchat |
| 9:53 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @ISILBOY: Blended learning is all we need! 3 days f2f 2 days distance @ShellTerrell @springrose12 #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | cioccas: | RT @CeciELT: @shaznosel @esolcourses What about when it was the students’ fault – lack of commitment, effort? We’re still blamed #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ShellTerrell: Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d small plug #eltchat I think the #30goals definitely prescription for the burn-out problem |
| 9:53 pm | esolcourses: | RT @CeciELT: @shaznosel @esolcourses What about when it was the students’ fault – lack of commitment, effort? We’re still blamed #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | rliberni: | @ShellTerrell plug away! #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | fionamau: | RT @BethCagnol: @sjhannam @cecielt Yes, but the ups and downs often “hurt” more in teaching I think cause it’s an “in the spotlight” profession. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:53 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: @ShellTerrell @CeciELT shoes & socks off, red wine & #eltchat – gives you a burnout bypass !! |
| 9:53 pm | cybraryman1: | Please join us on the Twitter Exercise Motivation Team. Helps prevent burnout! #temt http://tinyurl.com/4etlf4t #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | ShellTerrell: | So agree! RT @IsilBoy: Blended learning is all we need! 3 days f2f 2 days distance #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | sandymillin: | RT @ShellTerrell: Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d #eltchat | #30goals definitely prescription for the burn-out problem <agreed |
| 9:53 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: So agree! RT @IsilBoy: Blended learning is all we need! 3 days f2f 2 days distance #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @ShellTerrell: Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d small plug #eltchat I think the #30goals definitely prescription for the burn-out problem |
| 9:54 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @cybraryman1: Please join us on the Twitter Exercise Motivation Team. Helps prevent burnout! #temt http://tinyurl.com/4etlf4t #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | shaznosel: | @springrose12 #eltchat with you all the way..plus our kids understand our commitment to others.. great learning curve |
| 9:54 pm | janetbianchini: | Hi all – sorry to join so late – had a bit of a probs earlier on with eltchat hashtag and then gave up! Anyway,seem to be here now #ELTchat |
| 9:54 pm | esolcourses: | RT @ShellTerrell: Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d small plug #eltchat I think the #30goals definitely prescription for the burn-out problem |
| 9:54 pm | BethCagnol: | @ShellTerrell @bcnpaul1 I’ve conducted a class with no socks and shoes…but that’s another story. #ELTCHAT |
| 9:54 pm | CeciELT: | RT @ShellTerrell: So agree! RT @IsilBoy: Blended learning is all we need! 3 days f2f 2 days distance #eltchat > Hear, hear! |
| 9:54 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @CeciELT @shaznosel @esolcourses with a re-energized teacher the SSs will be more committed… |
| 9:54 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @cioccas: RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat < So, how to convince others to join in? |
| 9:54 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | fionamau: | RT @CeciELT: @sjhannam And on top of that, most Ts I know r emotionally committed to their work and students. We get involved. That adds even + #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | sedayyildirim: | RT @cioccas: RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat < So, how to convince others to join in? |
| 9:54 pm | Teacherhorizons: | @gibsongr I’m curious, but do you actually make your own cheese or is that a metaphor? #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | Fuertesun: | @janetbianchini Hi #ELTchat |
| 9:54 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @annapires: it’s great coming home to our little ones at the end of the day! #eltchat > i wish it was more often. mine usually in bed |
| 9:54 pm | springrose12: | @rliberni I think sense humour, not taking things personally and keeping the distance from the nonconstructive arguments help, too. #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | Marisa_C: | @cybraryman1 I like this – motivating each other to keep up our fitness work? #temt #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | cybraryman1: | @ShellTerrell My Blended Learning page: http://tinyurl.com/483kbhl #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | ShellTerrell: | @bethcagnol @bcnpaul1 And you do the red wine & #ELTChat regularly & I bet the singing the stress out helps |
| 9:54 pm | janetbianchini: | @ShellTerrell Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d small plug #eltchat I think the #30goals definitely prescription for the burn-out problem |
| 9:55 pm | ISILBOY: | @ShellTerrell last semester I was the coordinator& some Ts drove me mad. Now, I’m working at the Writing C. &don’t have2deal w/ ts #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | CeciELT: | RT @janetbianchini: @ShellTerrell Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d small plug #eltchat I think the #30goals definitely prescription for the burn-out problem |
| 9:55 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cybraryman1: Please join us on the Twitter Exercise Motivation Team. Helps prevent burnout! #temt http://tinyurl.com/4etlf4t #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @teacher_prix: We have to handle lessons, crazy parents and..PD!> OOPS! You said the magic word: parents. Topic for another #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | bcnpaul1: | @bethcagnol really? go on – tell us at #tesolspain #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | cioccas: | Teaching is the hardest job I’ve done (and I’ve done lots) but the most energising and rewarding. Need to remind my peers! #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | blackappleED: | RT @annapires: How can we help teachers avoid burnout? #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | CeciELT: | RT @cioccas: Teaching is the hardest job I’ve done (and I’ve done lots) but the most energising and rewarding. Need to remind my peers! #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | fionamau: | RT @rliberni: @Teacherhorizons we all are – we know each other well from this forum #eltchat >> Genuine in all senses, too |
| 9:55 pm | Teacherhorizons: | RT @CeciELT: And of course if a student doesn’t pass or achieve the objective: it’s always the teachers fault. (or so ppl try to be) #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | fionamau: | RT @ShellTerrell: @bcnpaul1 So haven’t heard your prescription for burn-out no socks, no shoes, glass of red wine & some #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | vladkaslniecko: | Thank you all for amazing #eltchat…time for bed / gonna avoid burn out ) Night night! |
| 9:56 pm | janetbianchini: | @Fuertesun Hi!!! #ELTchat Sorry I’ve missed most of chat, but will catch up via summary |
| 9:56 pm | rliberni: | @springrose12 I agree with you – we have to find coping strategies. Don’t let the Man get u down! #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | eltbakery: | RT @MertonTech So what is this #eltchat about? Teaching burnout and how to avoid it. |
| 9:56 pm | shaznosel: | @esolcourses @CeciELT #eltchat never blame the tools! |
| 9:56 pm | fionamau: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat > LOL Amazing promotion for Twitter! |
| 9:56 pm | Fuertesun: | @janetbianchini like d your dream post #ELTchat |
| 9:56 pm | ShellTerrell: | @IsilBoy Interacting w parents used 2 stress me out but my PLN really helped me find an effective way to interact. Now no problems #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | bjablonski42: | RT @cioccas: Teaching is the hardest job I’ve done (done lots) but the most energising and rewarding. Need to remind my peers! #ELTchat |
| 9:56 pm | cioccas: | RT @shaznosel: @esolcourses @CeciELT #eltchat never blame the tools! < And don’t blame the teacher either! |
| 9:56 pm | springrose12: | @IsilBoy @ShellTerrell Take a deep breath and walk away from the arguments. This is what I do..I never regretted doing that:) #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | Teacherhorizons: | @eltbakery @MertonTech sharing and caring #eltchat is what its about. |
| 9:57 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat > LOL Amazing promotion for Twitter! >agree |
| 9:57 pm | Fuertesun: | @bethcagnol sounds nice #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | CeciELT: | School offering non-teaching related opportunities for socializing might help #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | rliberni: | @Teacherhorizons we meet here every Wed at 12.00p.m. GMT & again at 9.00 with diff topics #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @SueAnnan: seriously though, this has been very helpful and thought-provoking. Hope I can do some of your suggestions justice #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | cioccas: | RT @rliberni: So, it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap and very effective #eltchat > Well, it’s not Twitter, it’s the people here! |
| 9:57 pm | rliberni: | RT @CeciELT: School offering non-teaching related opportunities for socializing might help #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | ShellTerrell: | Agree! RT @CeciELT: School offering non-teaching related opportunities for socializing might help #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | sandymillin: | @CeciELT Exactly – we have 2-3 weekends away per year. Plus we all organise things like cinema trips/theatre/b’day parties #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | DinaDobrou: | @CeciELT @shaznosel @esolcourses It’s like there’s always sth the T could have done more to prevent it. We’re not brain surgeons! #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | fionamau: | RT @sandymillin:make new teachers aware of the possibility of burnout immediately #eltchat Also schools shld organise teacher socials, trips |
| 9:57 pm | Shaunwilden: | @SueAnnan I hope your teacher works it out, good luck with him #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | shaznosel: | @Marisa_C @DinaDobrou #eltchat – um..never one to lurk even though i still can’t cope with twitter.. |
| 9:58 pm | esolcourses: | @sjhannam @cioccas & it’s only going to get worse here.”Big Society” will=job losses & more work for “lucky” ones who are left #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @Shaunwilden: @SueAnnan I hope your teacher works it out, good luck with him #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | cioccas: | Share share share, reduce individual burden #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm | ShellTerrell: | @CeciELT Used to love hanging out w chem tchrs at former schl! Every Fri was new alcohol concoctions #Eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | rliberni: | @cioccas true Lol:-) #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | Teacherhorizons: | @rliberni oh I see, had no idea! Only just getting know all these channels and what goes on in them. #eltchat what the discussion for today? |
| 9:58 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @ShellTerrell: Avoid Burn-Out http://bit.ly/i9be3d small plug #eltchat I think #30goals definitely prescription for burn-out problem |
| 9:58 pm | fionamau: | RT @ShellTerrell: @bethcagnol @bcnpaul1 And you do the red wine & #ELTChat regularly & I bet the singing the stress out helps |
| 9:58 pm | SueannaN: | @Shaunwilden thanks a million. It’s great to know that there’s help and expertise in my PLN #eltchat #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @fionamau agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @cioccas: Share share share, reduce individual burden #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm | chrisemdin: | Burnout is often prevented with few small changes. Teach a new grade, a new subject, a diff population…but keep teaching #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm | CeciELT: | RT @sandymillin: We have 2-3 w/es away per year. Plus we all organise things lk cinema trips/theatre/b’day parties #ELTChat > luv the idea! |
| 9:59 pm | GilMattos: | RT @naomishema: #eltchat problem is the burned out teacher don’t want to come to conferences or attend worksho? (cont) http://deck.ly/~t0qbO |
| 9:59 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | ISILBOY: | @springrose12 @shellterrell @cecielt And, all the tech staff we are involved is more appreciated by ss than Ts! #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | esolcourses: | @DinaDobrou @cioccas @shaznosel agree, Dina. We do our best but whether or not a student passes is often out of our hands #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | ShellTerrell: | Yes! RT @Marisa_C: agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cioccas Share share share, reduce individual burden #ELTchat Great quote Lesley!! Fully agree with you! |
| 9:59 pm | DinaDobrou: | @shaznosel @Marisa_C Well, it doesn’t show. You seem like you got the hang of it! Love to have you on board #ELTchat |
| 9:59 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @chrisemdin: Burnout is often prevented with few small changes. Teach a new grade, a new subject, a diff population…but keep teaching #ELTchat |
| 9:59 pm | naomishema: | RT @janetbianchini: RT @cioccas Share share share, reduce individual burden #ELTchat Great quote Lesley!! Fully agree with you! |
| 9:59 pm | Marisa_C: | Wow I missed a lot of tweets – need to check out transcipt! #ELTchat |
| 9:59 pm | cioccas: | RT @ShellTerrell: Yes! RT @Marisa_C: agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | eltbakery: | RT @bcnpaul1 @rliberni: So,it’s official! Twitter prevents burnout! Cheap&very effective #eltchat Can be a bit scary 2 much info for new Ts |
| 9:59 pm | CeciELT: | @GilMattos @naomishema Attending conferences add loads to me for I have to prepare all sub classes and find sub teachers #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | ShellTerrell: | @SueAnnan Your teacher friend blessed to have some1 seeking answers for him! #ELTChat |
| 10:00 pm | fionamau: | RT @CeciELT: School offering non-teaching related opportunities for socializing helps #ELTChat (great minds… bt I’m tweetin slower than u) |
| 10:00 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @ShellTerrell: Yes! RT @Marisa_C: agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat > absolutely & definitely |
| 10:00 pm | BethCagnol: | #eltchat Tough last-minute question…is it out duty to gently tell our colleagues they’ve burnt out? |
| 10:00 pm | cybraryman1: | @ShellTerrell @Marisa_C Thanks It was an important topic to discuss. Teachers need help & support to carry on their arduous tasks #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | mmgrinberg: | Bye-bye and good night #eltchat! Thanks for being here! See you later (and I hope to see many of you at #istek) |
| 10:00 pm | rliberni: | @eltbakery they need to be encouraged to lurk for a while #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: Yes! RT @Marisa_C: agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | fionamau: | RT @sandymillin: @CeciELT Exactly – we have 2-3 weekends away per year. Plus we all organise things like cinema trips/theatre/b’day parties #ELTChat |
| 10:00 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @ShellTerrell: Yes! RT @Marisa_C: agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat > absolutely & definitely |
| 10:00 pm | ShellTerrell: | Ohhh! Gr8 question! RT @bethcagnol: #eltchat Tough last-minute question…is it out duty to gently tell our colleagues they’ve burnt out? |
| 10:00 pm | misshbond: | RT @cioccas: Share share share, reduce individual burden #ELTchat <- Honestly don’t know what I’d do w/out support of colleagues and friends |
| 10:00 pm | CeciELT: | @GilMattos @naomishema Right now am in the process of preparing 16 classes for while I am at IATEFL. Am happy to do it though! #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | lingliziya: | @bethcagnol #eltchat what if u dont have any choice? ur tests are based on the book units. |
| 10:00 pm | CeciELT: | RT @annapires: #ELTchat Back to work tomorrow after short break. Feels great having such a great support group in my PLN! |
| 10:00 pm | shaznosel: | @cioccas #ELTCHAT share with our pln..colleagues not always the answer as they don’t share the same beliefs/enthusiasm |
| 10:00 pm | Teacherhorizons: | @rliberni ahh thanks. look forward to ready, especially on getting teenagers to communicate! thats quite a challenge in many ways #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | fionamau: | RT @Marisa_C: @fionamau agree schools need to look after their teachers not bleed them dry #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | katekidney: | Many symptoms of the burnout have left me tonight.:o) I must leave to do some more work for tomorrow. Thx+C U! #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | bcnpaul1: | when i worked saturdays we used to have cava & cake at the end of the day in staffroom- was really nice way to finish & feel valued #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | naomishema: | #eltchat Here teachers have to attend conferences on vacations – no subs no time off from school! |
| 10:01 pm | Shaunwilden: | @bethcagnol no i dont think so, we can try and raise it informally but we shouldnt wade in it might do more harm #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | teacher_prix: | U know what I liked best?! To know that I’m not alone! That the people I admire have been through this lot and are still there! #ELTchat |
| 10:01 pm | sjhannam: | @esolcourses @cioccas teacher guilt – why did I get 10 hours and my colleague only got 6? The reality of EL in many contexts #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | springrose12: | @ShellTerrell @bethcagnol Wow, I don’t think so:) Stay away if possible:) #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @shaznosel: @esolcourses @CeciELT #eltchat never blame the tools! |
| 10:01 pm | Teacherhorizons: | hmm what does burnout actually mean? #eltchat |
| 10:01 pm | janetbianchini: | Wrote a guest post on @OUPELTBlog on Renew the Passion and Go with the Flow, but can’t find it right now! Will link later #ELTchat |
| 10:01 pm | Marisa_C: | Thank you all converted #ELTchatters – now go forth and spread the word #ELTchat |
| 10:01 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @chrisemdin: Burnout is often prevented with few small changes. Teach a new grade, a new subject, a diff population…but keep teaching #ELTchat |
| 10:02 pm | CeciELT: | RT @teacher_prix: U know what I liked best?! To know that I’m not alone! #ELTchat > That helps A LOT to me, not feeling alone in it |
| 10:02 pm | MertonTech: | Thank you #eltchat peeps! |
| 10:02 pm | rcantrell: | RT @ShellTerrell: I believe educators need to learn to quit at some point in the day & make time for themselves in non edu activities! #ELTChat |
| 10:02 pm | sjhannam: | @bethcagnol #eltchat no. I wd never use that term. But I wd say “are you OK and do you want to go out for a drink and a chat?”. |
| 10:02 pm | SueannaN: | RT @ShellTerrell: Ohhh! Gr8 question! RT @bethcagnol: #eltchat Tough last-minute question…is it out duty t? (cont) http://deck.ly/~AI3bA |
| 10:02 pm | cioccas: | @bcnpaul1 It was ice crean and che after class on Saturdays in Vietnam #ELTchat |
| 10:02 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cybraryman1: @ShellTerrell @Marisa_C Thanks It was an important topic to discuss. Teachers need help & support to carry on their arduous tasks #eltchat |
| 10:02 pm | sandymillin: | Thanks for another fascinating #eltchat |
| 10:02 pm | teacher_prix: | It empowers me! It shows me I can do it!!! #ELTchat |
| 10:02 pm | ShellTerrell: | @bethcagnol I try to get them involved in PLNs & motivate them vs pointing it out. You know about killing the messenger #ELTchat |
| 10:02 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all converted #ELTchatters – now go forth and spread the word #ELTchat |
| 10:02 pm | lingliziya: | @bethcagnol #eltchat our staff room is a cupboard for out coats and books. there is nowhere to chill for 5 mins |
| 10:02 pm | springrose12: | @Marisa_C @ShellTerrell good night lovely ladies…take care. Thanks for moderating…#eltchat |
| 10:02 pm | rliberni: | RT @ShellTerrell: @bethcagnol I try to get them involved in PLNs & motivate them vs pointing it out. You know about killing the messenger #ELTchat |
| 10:02 pm | sjhannam: | @bethcagnol #eltchat noone likes having the mirror held up – plus we sd all expect some criticism in return if we open that pandora’s box! |
| 10:02 pm | BethCagnol: | @springrose12 @shellterrell Yeah. I agree. But was curious on what y’all think about that (re:telling colleagues they’ve burnt out) #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | sandymillin: | Quick #eltpics plug – this week’s topic: #childhood. Have had lots of RTs, but only @VictoriaB52 and me have posted pics I thnk! #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | CeciELT: | @bethcagnol I think if they are friends besides colleagues, yes. If not, you might not be welcome #eltchat |
| 10:03 pm | ShellTerrell: | RT @Marisa_C: Thank you all converted #ELTchatters – now go forth and spread the word #ELTchat |
| 10:03 pm | Marisa_C: | @springrose12 #eltchat Good night and thanks for joining and sharing |
| 10:03 pm | japglish: | @annapires I think what most teachers need is to hear that others are having a bad day too. Be honest abt ur classes too #eltchat |
This is the transcript of the midday #eltchat on 09.09.11
| 11:59 am | Shaunwilden: | @lolonagi 1st Topic “How do you motivate teens 2 extend their ideas in speaking activities, going beyond “I agree” “i disagree” #eltchat |
| 12:01 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: This is a problem I have with teens 12-15 yrs old. #ELTchat |
| 12:02 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: RT @barbsaka Yes I’m ready! Hi! Time for #ELTchat–are you ready? |
| 12:02 pm | barbsaka: | @annapires What kinds of problems? #eltchat |
| 12:02 pm | lolonagi: | yes,I thnk we can motivate teens by giving them free speech topics about fun things #eltchat |
| 12:03 pm | rliberni: | Personally I haven’t taught teens en masse for a long time can u throw out some examples? #eltchat |
| 12:03 pm | janetbianchini: | Teens need challenging in this digital era #ELTchat as they are mostly net-savvy |
| 12:03 pm | sandymillin: | Where do you get the topics you talk about from? #eltchat How much is student-generated? |
| 12:03 pm | barbsaka: | @lolonagi Do you think they aren’t motivated because topics are not interesting to them? #eltchat |
| 12:03 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: @lolonagi Do you think they aren’t motivated because topics are not interesting to them? #eltchat |
| 12:03 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Teens need challenging in this digital era #ELTchat as they are mostly net-savvy |
| 12:04 pm | Shaunwilden: | I havent taught teens for a while to be honest but will try and join in #ELTchat |
| 12:04 pm | janetbianchini: | Yes, get teens to choose their topics of interest is always a good start #ELTchat Find out what they are into |
| 12:04 pm | lolonagi: | RT @janetbianchini: Yes, get teens to choose their topics of interest is always a good start #ELTchat Find out what they are into |
| 12:04 pm | rliberni: | Which activities get the most interest? #eltchat |
| 12:04 pm | lolonagi: | what about giving them role plays #eltchat? |
| 12:04 pm | barbsaka: | Can anyone share examples of discussion gone awry or stopping dead with teens for our teachers who aren’t blessed with this age? #eltchat |
| 12:04 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Yes, get teens to choose their topics of interest is always a good start #ELTchat Find out what they are into |
| 12:05 pm | AlexandreMak: | #ELTchat @rliberni debates? |
| 12:05 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @barbsaka They either have nothing to say apart from “I agree/disagree” or if topic v motivating they go into L1 #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | barbsaka: | RT @annapires: @barbsaka They either have nothing to say apart from “I agree/disagree” or if topic v motivating they go into L1 #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | Marisa_C: | @annapires So do you spend time building up their “knowledge base” ? #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | rliberni: | @annapires interesting what size of class are you talking about? #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @annapires So do you spend time building up their “knowledge base” ? #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | lolonagi: | teens usually like to speak,, but they do that in their 1L #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | Shaunwilden: | Isnt trying to hard too find topics that might interest them a problem in itself? Isn’t uncool to talk to the tchr? #ELTchat |
| 12:06 pm | danhummsoriano: | #eltchat Isn’t it really a question of providing motivating material? |
| 12:06 pm | yearinthelifeof: | #ELTchat prereading 10 contemporary motivation theories and how they explain why your students jus.. http://bit.ly/hcNBGo |
| 12:06 pm | rliberni: | @annapires do you have a link? #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | Marisa_C: | @annapires Do you appoint “local experts” on some of your topics throughout course/year/coursebook? #ELTchat |
| 12:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: Isnt trying to hard too find topics that might interest them a problem in itself? Isn’t uncool to talk to the tchr? #ELTchat |
| 12:06 pm | barbsaka: | RT @lolonagi: teens usually like to speak,, but they do that in their 1L #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | JoHart: | #eltchat Contentious point. Are we setting lrners up to fail later by trying to make all learning interesting. Work IS NOT all interesting! |
| 12:06 pm | brad5patterson: | @barbsaka it’s culture-specific, but I think my chinese teens were so socially sensitive that speaking in big groups was tough #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | philhart: | @janetbianchini Erm, as a 58 year old, I have been known to burn the “net-savvy-ness” off today’s teenagers’ socks. #ELTchat |
| 12:06 pm | lolonagi: | @yearinthelifeof totallly agree about finding the topics, #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @yearinthelifeof: #ELTchat prereading 10 contemporary motivation theories and how they explain why your students jus.. http://bit.ly/hcNBGo |
| 12:06 pm | janetbianchini: | @rliberni Current pop / sports stars – facts about their lives #ELTchat seem to be popular topics |
| 12:06 pm | chrisemdin: | @Shaunwilden Embrace the “why?” Have posters in the classroom with the word in life-size. Make it the classroom mantra #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | barbsaka: | RT @EnglAdvantage: @barbsaka hard to do example in 140 characters. But just Y/N answers to questions. Shrugs to any follow up Qs. #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | rliberni: | @annapires ok thanks so shouldn’t be that easy to ‘hide’ #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @annapires @barbsaka Why do they agree/disagree? #ELTchat |
| 12:07 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoHart: #eltchat Contentious point. Are we setting lrners up to fail later by trying to make all learning interesting. Work IS NOT all interesting! |
| 12:07 pm | EnglAdvantage: | Creating a safe and supportive mistakes are OK environment really helps a lot for me. #ELTChat |
| 12:07 pm | lolonagi: | http://bit.ly/eP6eIs this is a link 4 topics 2 talk about #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @chrisemdin: Embrace the “why?” Have posters in the classroom with the word. Make it the classroom mantra #eltchat Nice idea |
| 12:07 pm | EnglAdvantage: | n Kazakhstan fear of making a mistake is big so students are afraid to say anything unless they know they can say it perfectly. #ELTCHat |
| 12:07 pm | rliberni: | @JoHart good point Jo – & a good lesson for later life #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | rliberni: | RT @philhart: @janetbianchini Erm, as a 58 year old, I have been known to burn the “net-savvy-ness” off today’s teenagers’ socks. #ELTchat |
| 12:08 pm | barbsaka: | @yearinthelifeof I think it’s when the topic is Opinion Statements (I think…I agree/disagree) @annapires class #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | janetbianchini: | @philhart Wonderful! #ELTchat Of course it’s not just teens who are in this category – all of us here are pretty net-savvy I’d say |
| 12:08 pm | sandymillin: | RT @annapires: @barbsaka They either have nothing to say apart from “I agree/disagree” or if topic v motivating they go into L1 #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | Marisa_C: | @annapires Yes, I used to ask my teen Ss to choose a topic and become the T/expert when it was time to work on it #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | barbsaka: | RT @Marisa_C: @annapires Yes, I used to ask my teen Ss to choose a topic and become the T/expert when it was time to work on it #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @chrisemdin: Embrace the “why?” Have posters in the classroom with the word. Make it the classroom mantra #eltchat Nice idea |
| 12:08 pm | rliberni: | RT @EnglAdvantage: Creating a safe and supportive mistakes are OK environment really helps a lot for me. #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | sandymillin: | @annapires What is / are “thunks”? #ELTchat |
| 12:09 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @annapires Yes, I used to ask my teen Ss to choose a topic and become the T/expert when it was time to work on it #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | barbsaka: | So, for motivating topics, let them choose or pick tech/teen-related themes….Is that correct? #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @penpln Looks great! Must view it afterwards – thanks .http://youtu.be/_veIGGP1Uh4 #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | Shaunwilden: | I accept there are issues like motivation, coolness etc but is the issue of ‘i agree’ ‘disagree’ not applicable to adults as well? #ELTchat |
| 12:09 pm | brad5patterson: | @EnglAdvantage yes, teenagers are at a very sensitive age, so I’ve found dividing them up in smaller groups seems to help #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @JoHart Difference between wanting to talk and not wanting to, so why do they not want to? Boredom (topic) or Teenagedom (shyness)? #ELTchat |
| 12:09 pm | evemarfil: | Greeting @barbsaka and everybody participating in #eltchat. Best greetings from sunny Lisbon-Portugal, http://bit.ly/7FbVM |
| 12:09 pm | rliberni: | RT @brad5patterson: @EnglAdvantage yes, teenagers are at a very sensitive age, so I’ve found dividing them up in smaller groups seems to help #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | KarenInGreece: | Playing devil’s advocate usually works #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | barbsaka: | @evemarfil Welcome to #eltchat We’re glad you’re here! |
| 12:10 pm | evemarfil: | RT @barbsaka: RT @Marisa_C: @annapires Yes, I used to ask my teen Ss to choose a topic and become the T/expert when it was time to work on it #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @Shaunwilden: I accept there are issues like motivation, coolness etc but is the issue of ‘i agree’ ‘disagree’ not applicable to adults as well? #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | AlexandreMak: | RT @KarenInGreece: Playing devil’s advocate usually works #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | rliberni: | @evemarfil hello and welcome! #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | EnglAdvantage: | RT @KarenInGreece: Playing devil’s advocate usually works #eltchat>Yes, also great to get kids beyond I agree/disagree |
| 12:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @AlexandreMak: RT @KarenInGreece: Playing devil’s advocate usually works #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | Marisa_C: | Speaking competitions? Who cn hold the floor the longest without being interrupted in a nice way? #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: Speaking competitions? Who cn hold the floor the longest without being interrupted in a nice way? #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | JoHart: | #eltchat as former science researcher I am v aware that even “glamorous” jobs have a high proportion of “bottle washing” & button counting” |
| 12:10 pm | barbsaka: | What about topics that aren’t necessarily agree/disagree oriented? Any ideas that have worked? #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @KarenInGreece: Playing devil’s advocate usually works #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | NikkiFortova: | RT @KarenInGreece: Playing devil’s advocate usually works #eltchat > yes that’s worked in my experience. |
| 12:10 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | motivating teen to talk here in Indonesia is a challenge on its own.I do find personal approach works quite ok,at least in my case #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | sandymillin: | @brad5patterson Dividing into groups is a good idea, but I only have 4-5 in my classes! #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | janetbianchini: | @barbsaka To some extent it’s good to self-select, but depends on curriculum, I guess #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | brad5patterson: | @KarenInGreece it’s the age for rebels, so they LOVE taking the other side’s view, don’t they! #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @Marisa_C Speaking competitions? Who cn hold the floor the longest without being interrupted in a nice way? #eltchat Yes comps are good |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | Is it necessarily a bad thing to take them out of their comfort zone? #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | janebarden: | #eltchat ‘ask the expert’ is a great communication activity for teens. |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoHart: #eltchat as former science researcher I am v aware that even “glamorous” jobs have a high proportion of “bottle washing” & button counting” |
| 12:11 pm | penpln: | @janetbianchini @penpln reminds me of my son! #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @yitzha_sarwono: motivating teen to talk here in Indonesia is a challenge on its own.I do find personal approach works quite ok,at least in my case #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | yearinthelifeof: | People don’t speak without good reason. ‘You’re in class and I’m telling you speak’ isn’t a very good reason. #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | evemarfil: | My 8th graders + 12th graders choose their own topics and have got to show their expertise, and bring it to a new focus of analisys #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @yearinthelifeof: People don’t speak without good reason. ‘You’re in class and I’m telling you speak’ isn’t a very good reason. #ELTchat |
| 12:12 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @Marisa_C we use that speaking competition thing here too,but in the form of group quiz #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | sandymillin: | @barbsaka Maybe ideas-generation topics, like ideas for fundraising events (trying it tomorrow!) #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @yearinthelifeof: People don’t speak without good reason. ‘You’re in class and I’m telling you speak’ isn’t a very good reason. #ELTchat |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: @rliberni Thunks http://tinyurl.com/y9txdk Thank you #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | janetbianchini: | @janebarden HI Jane!! Lovely to see you Welcome to #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | evemarfil: | @barbsaka So kind of you! TY! Gr8 to “see” you! #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | chucksandy: | hello from Dubai everyone. Just arrived but better late than never I suppose. @marisa_c still need my help? ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @brad5patterson: @KarenInGreece it’s the age for rebels, so they LOVE taking the other side’s view, don’t they! #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | sandymillin: | @rliberni Definitely good for all SS to be taken out of comfort zone every now and then! #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | englishbyjohnny: | @barbsaka I usually have teens discuss their favorites singers, fashion, and food. Simple, but it does make them want to speak. #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | RT @janebarden: #eltchat ‘ask the expert’ is a great communcation activity for teens. |
| 12:13 pm | brad5patterson: | @sandymillin tough… maybe even them out into groups of 3 with you as the third in one group?… #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | sandymillin: | RT @yearinthelifeof: People don’t speak without good reason. ‘You’re in class and I’m telling you speak’ isn’t a very good reason. #ELTchat |
| 12:13 pm | rliberni: | RT @evemarfil: My 8th graders + 12th graders choose their own topics and have got to show their expertise, and bring it to a new focus of analisys #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | Marisa_C: | @chucksandy Welcome Chuck! Helping us moderate today’s chat! #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @yearinthelifeof: People don’t speak without good reason. ‘You’re in class and I’m telling you speak’ isn’t a very good reason. #ELTchat |
| 12:13 pm | AlexandreMak: | RT @rliberni: RT @annapires: @rliberni Thunks http://tinyurl.com/y9txdk Thank you #eltchat / it’s brilliant! |
| 12:13 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @rliberni: Thunks http://tinyurl.com/y9txdk Thank you #eltchat There are some good questions in that link |
| 12:13 pm | barbsaka: | Some students don’t naturally “take” to debate type discussions (culture deters confrontation) so controversial topics fall flat #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | JoHart: | @yearinthelifeof #eltchat imho often blend of both – maybe prob is instant gratification generation can’t cope with “boring bit” of work |
| 12:13 pm | tasoulazac: | I organise once a month the “joke day” ss tell jokes and we vote for the best #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | brad5patterson: | @KarenInGreece @Marisa_C I’ve done this competitive style before and it was A BIG WINNER. #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @sjhannam: what about the right to silence? #ELTchat |
| 12:13 pm | janetbianchini: | Teaching Teens blog post by @ddeubel – looks good!! http://tinyurl.com/67hwcph #ELTchat |
| 12:13 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat What about the right to silence? |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishbyjohnny: @barbsaka I usually have teens discuss their favorites singers, fashion, and food. Simple, but it does make them want to speak. #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | barbsaka: | RT @sjhannam: #eltchat What about the right to silence? |
| 12:14 pm | janebarden: | @janetbianchini #eltchat back to my teenage class now! Bye |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: One of the most interesting speaking activities w/ teens was when my sts asked my PLN a thunk abt ants on twitter #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | tonnet: | RT @JoHart: #eltchat as former science researcher I am v aware that even “glamorous” jobs have a high proportion of “bottle washing” & button counting” |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: Some students don’t naturally “take” to debate type discussions (culture deters confrontation) so controversial topics fall flat #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | brad5patterson: | @tasoulazac joke idea = fun idea! they could even practice so they present their jokes better #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoHart: @yearinthelifeof #eltchat imho often blend of both – maybe prob is instant gratification generation can’t cope with “boring bit” of work |
| 12:15 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | here we use Debate as a way to motivate our teen classes to talk.But we need to prepare them too in order for it to really work #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @sjhannam: what about the right to silence? #ELTchat |
| 12:15 pm | lolonagi: | I think it’s about seeting the environment 4 them 2 speak #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @tasoulazac: I organise once a month the “joke day” ss tell jokes and we vote for the best Gr8 idea! #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @rliberni: RT @tasoulazac: I organise once a month the “joke day” ss tell jokes and we vote for the best Gr8 idea! #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @barbsaka: Some students don’t naturally “take” to debate type discussions (culture deters confrontation) so controversial topics fall flat #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | lolonagi: | Appreciation, the imp of contribution, #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | cybraryman1: | My Debate page (gets students speaking): http://tinyurl.com/4kquoue #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | evemarfil: | “I agree” and “I disagree” when it comes to comments are out! Obligatory to add value to it with #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @sjhannam: what about the right to silence? Good point! #ELTchat |
| 12:15 pm | barbsaka: | @michelleworgan had some good tips for teaching/motivating teens in her post, too http://bit.ly/fUBx5t #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Teaching Teens blog post by @ddeubel – looks good!! http://tinyurl.com/67hwcph #ELTchat |
| 12:15 pm | JoHart: | RT @barbsaka: So agree> Some stdnts don’t ntrlly “take” to debate discsn (culture deters cnfrnttion) controversial topics fall flat #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | sandymillin: | What about giving SS planning time – brainstorm ideas for agree / disagree on board e.g. I agree because… #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | chucksandy: | i never understand any lesson that’s not built around a task Ss would want to do in any language because it’s fun/interesting. #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @lolonagi: I think it’s about setting the environment 4 them 2 speak #eltchat – very true! |
| 12:16 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @JoHart I’d hate to be a teenager these days! #ELTchat |
| 12:16 pm | sjhannam: | #eltchat We need to distinguish between reluctance and choice. Noone likes being forced to communicate. Where do we draw line? |
| 12:16 pm | englishbyjohnny: | And it helps them practice simple question formation using who and which. #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | janetbianchini: | Found this slideshare link – useful insights http://tinyurl.com/38htyd4 #ELTchat |
| 12:16 pm | hakan_sentrk: | @Shaunwilden there is right to silence. every st has a “tongue birth” (I just made that up!), so they should feel ok about silence. #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | cybraryman1: | Humor in the Classroom http://tinyurl.com/4vxfxt5 #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | barbsaka: | I think there’s a fundamental diff btn “thinking” silence and “ignoring me” silence in teen classes #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | rliberni: | @yitzha_sarwono are they all motivated to join in the debates? #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | EnglAdvantage: | RT @sandymillin: What about giving SS planning time – brainstorm ideas for agree / disagree on board e.g. I agree because… #eltchat>I like |
| 12:16 pm | sandymillin: | @chucksandy Fair point, but what happens when you have a syllabus? Or an exam to work towards? esp. where interactive comm. imp. #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | janebarden: | #eltchat giving teenagers diff personalities eg. David Beckham, Lady Gaga andtelling them to discuss a topic from that perspecitve is fun |
| 12:16 pm | evemarfil: | RT @lolonagi: I think it’s about seeting the environment 4 them 2 speak #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | lolonagi: | RT @janetbianchini: Found this slideshare link – useful insights http://tinyurl.com/38htyd4 #ELTchat |
| 12:17 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cybraryman1 My Debate page (gets students speaking): http://tinyurl.com/4kquoue #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @chucksandy: i never understand any lesson that’s not built around a task Ss would want to do in any language because it’s fun/interesting. #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @lolonagi: I think it’s about setting the environment 4 them 2 speak #eltchat – very true! |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Found this slideshare link – useful insights http://tinyurl.com/38htyd4 #ELTchat |
| 12:17 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @hakan_sentrk @Shaunwilden Highlight so far… ‘Tongue birth’ #ELTchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: Humor in the Classroom http://tinyurl.com/4vxfxt5 #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | lolonagi: | OK, so finding the right topics, appreciation, what else #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cybraryman1: Humor in the Classroom http://tinyurl.com/4vxfxt5 #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @barbsaka: I think there’s a fundamental diff btn “thinking” silence and “ignoring me” silence in teen classes #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | sjhannam: | @barbsaka #eltchat no I mean the right not to speak neither as an act of thinking of ignoring. Some people just want to stay silent at times |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: I think there’s a fundamental diff btn “thinking” silence and “ignoring me” silence in teen classes #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | chucksandy: | to get Ss speaking, challenge them to clarify values, complete an interesting task, do something. Otherwise it’s just language. #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @EnglAdvantage: RT @sandymillin: What about giving SS planning time – brainstorm ideas for agree / disagree on board e.g. I agree because… #eltchat>I like |
| 12:17 pm | hakan_sentrk: | syllabus and individual learning differences clash. we should find other ways to combine to combine them. #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | barbsaka: | @sjhannam Fair enough #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @barbsaka true,We have to prepare them with list of things to say to agree/disagree,but their opinions are theirs alone re:debate #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | KarenInGreece: | Silence can also be due to lack of ideas/vocab/phrases. Need to provide/brainstorm first and give thinking time #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @chucksandy: to get Ss speaking, challenge them to clarify values, complete an interesting task, do something. Otherwise it’s just language. #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @KarenInGreece: Silence can also be due to lack of ideas/vocab/phrases. Need to provide/brainstorm first and give thinking time #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | yearinthelifeof: | Why are you asking them to speak? What purpose will it serve them to be speaking to you in the way you’re asking them to right now? #ELTchat |
| 12:18 pm | janetbianchini: | @janebarden Yes, role plays always work well and are great fun if set up properly #ELTchat |
| 12:18 pm | lolonagi: | may be presentations,, doing presentations for about 5 mins about any intersecting topics #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | Begabungs: | RT @cybraryman1: Humor in the Classroom http://tinyurl.com/4vxfxt5 #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | rliberni: | Getting them out doing projects with cameras & video talking to ppl in the street worked for me (maybe too much H&S now) #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | englishbyjohnny: | I think with teens the difficulty is figuring how much to push them. You don’t want to go too far and lose them. Tricky process. #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | barbsaka: | @janebarden Great idea, Jane! Diff personalities enable students to discuss more easily perhaps #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @chucksandy Fair point, but what happens when you have a syllabus? Or an exam to work towards? esp. where interactive comm. imp. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @chucksandy: to get Ss speaking, challenge them to clarify values, complete an interesting task, do something. Otherwise it’s just language. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: RT @cybraryman1 My Debate page (gets students speaking): http://tinyurl.com/4kquoue #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | lolonagi: | @janetbianchini I have some role play topics, but not much #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | JoHart: | @yearinthelifeof Umm! think we all hated angst of being teens whnver – butmaybe brought up more to endure & accept life not easy #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @rliberni not easy at 1st,but finding the topics that relate to their age and life style did help out #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | chucksandy: | RT @sandymillin: I don’t see any reason why Ss in exam classes or Ts constrained w/ a syllabus can’t do task based learning. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @janebarden: #eltchat giving teenagers diff personalities eg. David Beckham, Lady Gaga andtelling them to discuss a topic from that perspecitve is fun |
| 12:19 pm | Otislam: | I think making clear the diff between discussion and confrontation upfront helps attenuate the cultural deterring factor #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | tasoulazac: | @lolonagi yes and it doesn’t have to be always the environment but topics ss choose #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | sandymillin: | RT @rliberni: Getting them out doing projects with cameras & video talking to ppl in the street worked for me (maybe too much H&S now) #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | Marisa_C: | Find games which require longer stretches of talk – the Longman Communcation Games books have lots – also Keep Talking CUP #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | sedayyildirim: | @englishbyjohnny @barbsaka I do the same , such topics that they are quite interested in make them feel free to talk .. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @KarenInGreece: Silence can also be due to lack of ideas/vocab/phrases. Need to provide/brainstorm first and give thinking time #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | barbsaka: | @sjhannam How do you draw the line, Sara? If students don’t want to talk in a speaking class, how do you handle it? #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: @janebarden Yes, role plays always work well and are great fun if set up properly #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | hakan_sentrk: | speaking activity should be related to their “real lives”, something they can connect to and find something 2 say: accurate or not. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @lolonagi may be presentations,, doing presentations for about 5 mins about any intersecting topics #ELTChat – agree that is motivating |
| 12:20 pm | ColinTGraham: | Worth bearing mind also that early teens are very different from late teens. Difference developmentally between JHS/HS #ELTchat |
| 12:20 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @janetbianchini: Teens need challenging in this digital era #ELTchat as they are mostly net-savvy |
| 12:20 pm | cybraryman1: | Have students put on their own news show: http://tinyurl.com/46ztvsx #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @ColinTGraham: Worth bearing mind also that early teens are very different from late teens. Difference developmentally between JHS/HS #ELTchat |
| 12:20 pm | yearinthelifeof: | If the aim appears to be ‘speak in an artificial environment on a contrived subject to regurgitate lang point X’, teens will… #ELTchat |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: Have students put on their own news show: http://tinyurl.com/46ztvsx #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | sandymillin: | @barbsaka @sjhannam And what happens in NOBODY wants to speak? What then? #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @janetbianchini: Yes, role plays always work well #ELTchat Do they really ALWAYS work well? I’ve often had issues with them |
| 12:20 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @cybraryman1: Have students put on their own news show: http://tinyurl.com/46ztvsx #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | brad5patterson: | Another trick I’ve used (depending on the age) is to make them feel more like adults, or ask more “adult” questions. #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | PrincipalBerry: | RT @cybraryman1: Have students put on their own news show: http://tinyurl.com/46ztvsx #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @sandymillin: @barbsaka @sjhannam And what happens in NOBODY wants to speak? What then? #eltchat > do sth else |
| 12:20 pm | yearinthelifeof: | …see right through it and the consequences are both apparent and fully deserved on our part. #ELTchat |
| 12:21 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @Marisa_C Find games which require longer stretches of talk – the Longman Communcation Games books have lots+Keep Talking CUP #ELTchat |
| 12:21 pm | sandymillin: | @Shaunwilden @janetbianchini I have trouble with role plays because I hated them as a teen (not so much now!) #ELTchat |
| 12:21 pm | chucksandy: | yitzha_sarwono:” finding topics that relate to their age & life style did help out” Yes! Ask Ss what they want to talk about. #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | englishbyjohnny: | @sedayyildirim IMO in Japan they learn to hate English in school because it is all basically exam regurgitation practice. #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | MahomedyHussein: | RT @Shaunwilden: @lolonagi 1st Topic “How do you motivate teens 2 extend their ideas in speaking activities, going beyond “I agree” “i disagree” #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Shaunwilden: RT @janetbianchini: Yes, role plays always work well #ELTchat Do they really ALWAYS work wel? (cont) http://deck.ly/~ekgZm |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishbyjohnny: @sedayyildirim IMO in Japan they learn to hate English in school because it is all basically exam regurgitation practice. #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Shaunwilden: RT @janetbianchini: Yes, role plays always work well #ELTchat Do they really ALWAYS work wel? (cont) http://deck.ly/~ekgZm |
| 12:21 pm | barbsaka: | @sandymillin That’s why I always have a back up plan #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @rliberni: Getting them out doing projects with cameras & video talking to ppl in the street worked for me (maybe too much H&S now) #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | sjhannam: | @barbsaka #eltchat its unusual for a whole class to be silent. If it happened I’d move to another activity & return to speaking later |
| 12:21 pm | ColinTGraham: | I came across a lot of 13/14yo boys in Japan who were painfully shy & rarely spoke Japanese, let alone English. They listened tho’ #ELTchat |
| 12:21 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cybraryman1 Sounds like a great idea! Have students put on their own news show: http://tinyurl.com/46ztvsx #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | JoHart: | @rliberni thank you! I work with many disengaged & they most seem to expect everything handed on plate – this is hard to accomodate #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @Marisa_C: Speaking competitions? Who cn hold the floor the longest without being interrupted in a nice way? #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @ColinTGraham: I came across a lot of 13/14yo boys in Japan who were painfully shy & rarely spoke Japanese, let alone English. They listened tho’ #ELTchat |
| 12:21 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @yearinthelifeof Then how do we give them practice? Or do we have to trick them into practicing language point X #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | englishbyjohnny: | @sedayyildirim If I can get them to at least like the language, my hope is that it will inspire them to love it. #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | evemarfil: | Agree with @lolonagi! Teens must feel secure to speak out. We must set a cosy environment to foster participation! #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | sandymillin: | @sjhannam Depends on the size of your class I only have 4-5 SS in mine #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | Marisa_C: | @Shaunwilden Asking a teen to play the part of a British Cop par example How thrilling! #ELTchat |
| 12:22 pm | sjhannam: | @sandymillin @barbsaka #eltchat patience? and then change course for a while. |
| 12:22 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @yearinthelifeof: People don’t speak without good reason. ‘You’re in class and I’m telling you speak’ isn’t a very good reason. #ELTchat |
| 12:22 pm | lolonagi: | I truly suffer when it comes to finding interesrting topics 4 students to speak about #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | jackersjp: | @chucksandy #eltchat It nerves students at first, but presenting ideas seems to make them really happy afterwards! : ) |
| 12:22 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @janetbianchini @Marisa_C Played BLOCKBUSTERS today to revise content – each question required a ‘describe concept X’ answer #ELTchat |
| 12:22 pm | Marisa_C: | british and cop do not of course go to+gether #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @rliberni yes,once we gave them task to interview other teachers and friends from other classes,but without camera though #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | marynabadenhors: | Have used video recordings for students who don’t want to speak in front of class, they record their speech, tcher look at it later #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | chucksandy: | RT @evemarfil @lolonagi Teens must feel secure to speak out. We must set a cosy environment to foster participation! #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | barbsaka: | @ColinTGraham And elementary students, and kindergarten, still more different #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | lolonagi: | what about watching some videos and then comment on them #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | jackersjp: | @chucksandy Love the chat happening here. I love to play to the Ss strengths and give them a chance to present/express their ideas. #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | rliberni: | @JoHart I agree there is a feeling also that everybody needs to be entertained a lot #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | janetbianchini: | @Marisa_C As I said, they should work well if chosen topic is motivating -get ss to make up own role play situations & cards #ELTchat |
| 12:23 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: Asking a teen 2 play part of a British Cop How thrilling! #ELTchat Exactly, I’d like to u 2 b be sth you cant relate 2 |
| 12:23 pm | ColinTGraham: | There can also be problems with vocabulary etc if you are in an EFL rather than ESOL environment #ELTchat |
| 12:23 pm | Shaunwilden: | @sjhannam I just dont do them #ELTchat |
| 12:23 pm | barbsaka: | RT @ColinTGraham: There can also be problems with vocabulary etc if you are in an EFL rather than ESOL environment #ELTchat |
| 12:23 pm | lolonagi: | or even litening 2 a song with the lyrics in hand #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | EclipsingX: | #ELTCHAT sorry for being late, I am just catching up on the stream of the conversation.) |
| 12:23 pm | rliberni: | @JoHart – some thngs r just boring & we have to get on with them not a bad lesson #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | JoHart: | #eltchat for speaking – how abt “Just a minute” (or less to start with) speak on subj w/o repetition or hesitation |
| 12:23 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishbyjohnny: @sedayyildirim If I can get them to at least like the language, my hope is that it will inspire them to love it. #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @sjhannam don’t forget the #ELTchat hash |
| 12:24 pm | chucksandy: | RT @BethCagnol RT @yearinthelifeof:Ss dont speak w/out good reason. Youre in class & Im telling you speak isnt a very good reason. #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | sjhannam: | @sandymillin #eltchat do none of them speak? |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @Shaunwilden Asking a teen to play the part of a British Cop par example How thrilling! #ELTchat |
| 12:24 pm | barbsaka: | RT @jackersjp: Love the chat happening here. I love to play to the Ss strengths and give them a chance to express their ideas. #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @barbsaka: Some students don’t naturally “take” to debate type discussions (culture deters confrontation) so controversial topics fall flat #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @yearinthelifeof: @janetbianchini @Marisa_C Played BLOCKBUSTERS today to revise content – each question required a ‘describe concept X’ answer #ELTchat |
| 12:24 pm | sandymillin: | @sjhannam They’re very reluctant. Not helped by having a different selection of 4 SS from the maximum 7 SS each week #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @JoHart: #eltchat for speaking – how abt “Just a minute” speak on subj w/o repetition or hesitation – Doesnt that add pressure? |
| 12:24 pm | janetbianchini: | Cool Badge Maker http://bighugelabs.com/badge.php would be fab 4 ss to create own cards for roles plays!! #ELTchat |
| 12:24 pm | chucksandy: | @jackersjp: right on! #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @barbsaka: I think there’s a fundamental diff btn “thinking” silence and “ignoring me” silence in teen classes #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | marynabadenhors: | #eltchat for reflections at end of lessons, use De Bono’s hats, stdnts pick a colour hat & give feedback according to hat, helps them focus |
| 12:24 pm | Marisa_C: | I like the goodl old “Show and Tell” Idea – anyone uses it? #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | sjhannam: | @yearinthelifeof Sorry #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | lolonagi: | @Marisa_C show and tell #eltchat? |
| 12:25 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @lolonagi i think you need to put on your cool hat &start hanging around with them ^^,to get the idea of what is cool to talk about #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | ColinTGraham: | @barbsaka Exactly! One ‘fear’ for teens(more so adults) is sounding ‘babyish’ because they don’t have vocab/expressive structures. #ELTchat |
| 12:25 pm | JoHart: | @rliberni so agree – eg doing student results boring in the extreme but they wld be 1st to complain if we did’nt LOL #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | barbsaka: | Yes, especially with younger learners/smaller vocab RT @Marisa_C: I like the goodl old “Show and Tell” Idea – anyone uses it? #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | rliberni: | My 12 year old can’t wait for French club they do fun thinks like games & role-plays the lessons are boring memory stuff #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | sjhannam: | @sandymillin #eltchat yes v. tough – no time to build up rapport. Not even talking on personal info bout selves? |
| 12:25 pm | abroadlanguages: | RT @barbsaka: RT @lolonagi: teens usually like to speak,, but they do that in their 1L #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | marynabadenhors: | The think/pair/share always get students talking as well, as does fishbowl and ‘cocktail party’ #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | mathhombre: | RT @barbsaka: So, What’s #Twitter good for, anyway? Do you have any tips? Please add to my newest post http://bit.ly/fN2Q6m #eltchat #jalt |
| 12:25 pm | sandymillin: | @annapires Saw the link – they look great! #ELTchat |
| 12:26 pm | sussenglish: | RT @teachingenglish: Avoid using the mother tongue in class? http://bit.ly/giKtmk #teachingEnglish #britishcouncil #ELTChat #EFL #ESL #TEFL |
| 12:26 pm | barbsaka: | Do you prepare students with language/vocabulary before beginning speaking activity/discussion? #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | chucksandy: | @marisa_c: show n tell’s fun. I have a task called “treasures” – Ss bring in something important to them. tell the story behind it. #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | Shaunwilden: | @marynabadenhors What’s fishbowl? #ELTchat |
| 12:26 pm | JoHart: | @Shaunwilden #eltchat perhaps – but doesn’t speaking in a real life situation for cuccessful comm also add pressure … |
| 12:26 pm | janetbianchini: | @yearinthelifeof Blockbusters is fun!! Also, cut up cards with controversial statements 4 ss to agree/disagree + say opinion why #ELTchat |
| 12:26 pm | sandymillin: | @sjhannam They’re intermediate level, so I’ve tried it, but doesn’t really push them. LIke to write, but grammar=hard to understand #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | sedayyildirim: | @englishbyjohnny also in my country there are students that hate English for similar reasons #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | hakan_sentrk: | every speaking activity needs a built up, otherwise students are not prepared contextually or cognitively #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | ColinTGraham: | A ‘trick’ is to get Ss with limited grammar/vocab to explain as though talking to an 8yo… gives a purpose for simplified language #ELTchat |
| 12:27 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @barbsaka That is very important. Not to mention background/history of topic if necessary so they have something to say #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | sandymillin: | @marynabadenhors What’s ‘fishbowl’? #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | rliberni: | RT @ColinTGraham: A ‘trick’ is to get Ss with limited grammar/vocab to explain as though talking to an 8yo… gives a purpose for simplified language #ELTchat |
| 12:27 pm | englishbyjohnny: | @rliberni without any role-play, regardless of age, the lesson will always be incomplete imo. #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @Marisa_C show and tell?yes,but so far what i used to have is them telling about their favorite singers! works fine though ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | chucksandy: | The problem w/ teens isn’t getting them to talk. It’s channeling their energy. #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | rliberni: | RT @yitzha_sarwono: @Marisa_C show and tell?yes,but so far what i used to have is them telling about their favorite singers! works fine though ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | chucksandy: | RT @hakan_sentrk: every speaking activity needs a built up, otherwise students are not prepared contextually or cognitively #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | Shaunwilden: | @JoHart True enough, just that if sb is reluctant to speak adding rules about hesitation and repetition seems to add to issues? #ELTchat |
| 12:27 pm | JoHart: | @Shaunwilden …. #eltchat it is useless to be able to perfectly craft a sentence in 5 min when you need to ask a q now to communicate |
| 12:27 pm | barbsaka: | In English RT @chucksandy: The problem w/ teens isn’t getting them to talk. It’s channeling their energy. #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | rliberni: | RT @chucksandy: The problem w/ teens isn’t getting them to talk. It’s channeling their energy. Good point #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | BethCagnol: | #eltchat I find my Elem students appreciate it when I link speaking tasks to end-of-term oral exams (e.g. Interviews) |
| 12:27 pm | NikkiFortova: | RT @chucksandy: RT @hakan_sentrk: every speaking activity needs a built up, otherwise students are not prepared contextually or cognitively #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoHart: @Shaunwilden …. #eltchat it is useless to be able to perfectly craft a sentence in 5 min when you need to ask a q now to communicate |
| 12:28 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @chucksandy: The problem w/ teens isn’t getting them to talk. It’s channeling their energy. #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | yearinthelifeof: | RT @BethCagnol: #eltchat I find my Elem students appreciate it when I link speaking tasks to end-of-term oral exams (e.g. Interviews) |
| 12:28 pm | barbsaka: | RT @bethcagnol: #eltchat I find my Elem students appreciate it when I link speaking tasks to end-of-term oral exams (e.g. Interviews) |
| 12:28 pm | evemarfil: | RT @barbsaka: In English RT @chucksandy: The problem w/ teens isn’t getting them to talk. It’s channeling their energy. #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | KarenInGreece: | @Marisa_C I like the good old “Show and Tell” Idea – anyone uses it? #eltchat Yes, I let them show pics/vids on their mobiles+explain them |
| 12:28 pm | brad5patterson: | @barbsaka as long as it doesn’t feel contrived, a few words can be good, or topic-specific vocabulary for certain role-playing #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | lolonagi: | what about debates? #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | JoHart: | @Shaunwilden #eltchat agree you have to judge indiv cases but making it a game can help reduce the stress |
| 12:28 pm | sherrattsam: | RT @ShellTerrell: Seeing is believing? Or seeing is knowing? Perception in the Classroom http://bit.ly/g7VoyO #eltchat #edchat #edreform by @brad5patterson |
| 12:29 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @bethcagnol We may not like it, but ‘exam focus’ work can motivate and lead to participation #ELTchat |
| 12:29 pm | ColinTGraham: | @chucksandy You also need to be aware of cultural groupings/interactions too! Difficult to ‘channel’ teens into groups sometimes. #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | barbsaka: | @brad5patterson I don’t mind contrived It IS English class, after all #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | EclipsingX: | @sandymillin also in monolingual classes it just isn’t natural.) I am trying to experiment with Webcams + real people.) #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @annapires: RT @barbsaka In English RT @chucksandy: The problem w/ teens isn’t getting them to talk. It’s channeling their energy. #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | lolonagi: | how would u organize a debate #eltchat? |
| 12:29 pm | sedayyildirim: | @chucksandy However , they get bored when a speaking activity is planned ! #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | Marisa_C: | @lolonagi Debates include intellectual challenges which are beyond language and need very special prep #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | janetbianchini: | Teaching Shakespeare to Teens via British Council site http://tinyurl.com/47tkre #ELTchat – looks full of fab ideas |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | I think they often crave some acknowledgment and giving them the ownership can produce stunning results #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | hakan_sentrk: | new learners have problems with creating ideas because “creating” ideas has become obsolete. we have to provide the ideas #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | Shaunwilden: | @JoHart or increase it with competitive pressure (am not criticizing the activity just highlighting the other side ) #ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Teaching Shakespeare to Teens via British Council site http://tinyurl.com/47tkre #ELTchat – looks full of fab ideas |
| 12:30 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @ShellTerrell: Seeing is believing? Or seeing is knowing? Perception in the Classroom http://bit.ly/g7VoyO #eltchat #edchat #edreform by @brad5patterson |
| 12:30 pm | KarenInGreece: | @Marisa_C Good ideas – giving the sts different roles in conversations #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | barbsaka: | @janetbianchini: Teaching Shakespeare to Teens via British Council site http://tinyurl.com/47tkre #ELTchat – looks full of fab ideas |
| 12:30 pm | brad5patterson: | @lolonagi I’ve seen good success if they like the topic of the debate. #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | ColinTGraham: | @barbsaka Or in Japanese, but they have to report back to the class in English after the ‘energetic’ activity… #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | lolonagi: | @Marisa_C I mean for example fast food Vs. healthy food debate #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @KarenInGreece: @Marisa_C Good ideas – giving the sts different roles in conversations interesting point #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | sandymillin: | @EclipsingX Wish I could – net access incredibly sporadic in that classroom – have tried things, but fails when connection does! #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | Marisa_C: | @annapires appoint an L1 Policeman in each group #ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | EclipsingX: | #ELTCHAT I try to find real life projects that they can work on. Also Voki is a good way to get them to speak w/out stress.)) #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | DaveDodgson: | RT @ShellTerrell: Seeing is believing? Or seeing is knowing? Perception in the Classroom http://bit.ly/g7VoyO #eltchat #edchat #edreform by @brad5patterson |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @annapires appoint an L1 Policeman in each group #ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @EclipsingX: #ELTCHAT I try to find real life projects that they can work on. Also Voki is a good way to get them to speak w/out stress.)) #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: RT @sandymillin You could ban the phrases ‘I agree” “I disagree” taboo-style – might encourage SS to find synonyms #ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | barbsaka: | @ColinTGraham Nice if you can make their use of L1 a strength instead of an uphill battle #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: @ColinTGraham Nice if you can make their use of L1 a strength instead of an uphill battle #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | BethCagnol: | #eltchat My kids seem to like it when I give them a pedagogical (professional) reason for the speaking task. |
| 12:31 pm | chucksandy: | @ColinTGraham: “Difficult to channel teens into groups sometimes.”Really? Why?I don’t find it hard if they group themselves. #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | hakan_sentrk: | having instant access to online knowledge sources has affected their creativity hence this affects their productive skills #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @bethcagnol: #eltchat My kids seem to like it when I give them a pedagogical (professional) reason for the speaking task. |
| 12:31 pm | sandymillin: | @annapires My SS always slip into L1 if they ever get a conversation going – rare occurance! #ELTchat |
| 12:31 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @rliberni: I think they often crave some acknowledgment and giving them the ownership can produce stunning results #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | marynabadenhors: | See: http://bit.ly/icYnIV <- collaborative learning tools to encourage students to talk and collaborate #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bethcagnol: #eltchat My kids seem to like it when I give them a pedagogical (professional) reason for the speaking task. > That too yes |
| 12:31 pm | evemarfil: | RT @barbsaka: @janetbianchini: Teaching Shakespeare to Teens via British Council site http://tinyurl.com/47tkre #ELTchat – looks full of fab ideas |
| 12:31 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @yearinthelifeof: @bethcagnol We may not like it, but ‘exam focus’ work can motivate and lead to participation #ELTchat |
| 12:31 pm | rliberni: | RT @marynabadenhors: See: http://bit.ly/icYnIV <- collaborative learning tools to encourage students to talk and collaborate #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @hakan_sentrk true,here I usually started with providing the idea that connects to them,sometimes they can ask to choose their own #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | cybraryman1: | In honor of World Read Aloud Day today – have students discuss what was read: http://tinyurl.com/4hxhbjg #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | janetbianchini: | @brad5patterson True!! Just need to channel their energy into topics that are truly motivating – then speaking is natural for them #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: In honor of World Read Aloud Day today – have students discuss what was read: http://tinyurl.com/4hxhbjg #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | NikkiFortova: | @EclipsingX How do you use voki to help with speaking? #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | barbsaka: | @brad5patterson Afraid I think authentic (language for a purpose) is more important than natural (since class is artificial) #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | ColinTGraham: | @chucksandy That’s the point, groupings need to be controlled by teens themselves, whereas elem Ss can be ‘placed’ in groups #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @EclipsingX: #ELTCHAT I try to find real life projects that they can work on. Also Voki is a good way to get them to speak w/out stress.)) #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: I find that problem-solving speaking activities work the best w/ my teens. #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | yearinthelifeof: | RT @hakan_sentrk: new learners have problems with creating ideas because “creating” ideas has become obsolete. we have to provide the ideas #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @ColinTGraham: @chucksandy That’s the point, groupings need to be controlled by teens themselves, whereas elem Ss can be ‘placed’ in groups #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | BethCagnol: | #eltchat Have any of you held “heckling contests”? The speaker (his/her choice) gets heckled by the others. |
| 12:33 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @NikkiFortova: @EclipsingX How do you use voki to help with speaking? #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | chucksandy: | i think the hardest thing abt working w/ teens is that Ts forget what it feels like to be a teen: what’s important and why. #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | rliberni: | RT @BethCagnol: #eltchat Have any of you held “heckling contests”? The speaker (his/her choice) gets heckled by the others. |
| 12:33 pm | rliberni: | RT @chucksandy: i think the hardest thing abt working w/ teens is that Ts forget what it feels like to be a teen: what’s important and why. #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | hakan_sentrk: | RT @bethcagnol: #eltchat Have any of you held “heckling contests”? The speaker (his/her choice) gets heckled by the others. sounds fun? |
| 12:33 pm | sandymillin: | @bethcagnol Sounds good in principle, but how do you stop it getting nasty? #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | chucksandy: | @ColinTGraham: groupings need to be controlled by teens themselves, whereas elem Ss can be placed in groups. Agree #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | JoHart: | @Shaunwilden #eltchat Absolutely – circumstances & students alter cases there are times when I wld use this activity & times when I wldn’t |
| 12:33 pm | EnglAdvantage: | RT @bethcagnol: #eltchat Have any of you held “heckling contests”? The speaker (his/her choice) gets heckled by the others>sounds scary |
| 12:33 pm | Shaunwilden: | @bethcagnol Isn’t that red rag to bull ,allowing teens to heckle? #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | EclipsingX: | #ELTCHAT @Sandymillin How about learners doing voice thread that learners go home and do and share with you outside the classroom.) #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | brad5patterson: | @janetbianchini this is the big challenge as @chucksandy nailed it on the head. #eltchat |
| 12:34 pm | janetbianchini: | Get ss to make up cartoons eg www.toondo.com with debate questions of their choice to post to classmates to discuss in class? #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | rliberni: | RT @Shaunwilden: @bethcagnol Isn’t that red rag to bull ,allowing teens to heckle? #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Get ss to make up cartoons eg www.toondo.com with debate questions of their choice to post to classmates to discuss in class? #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | sandymillin: | @EclipsingX Tried that too They said “no microphone”, “too difficult” or just didn’t bother! Want to show them in class bt can’t #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @EclipsingX: #ELTCHAT @Sandymillin How about learners doing voice thread that learners go home and do and share with you outside the classroom.) #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | barbsaka: | When you throw teens into a natural discussion w/o much prep, do you pull mini lessons from the language you hear? #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | lolonagi: | I gave my students something 2 read and talk about,, but total failure #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @ColinTGraham @chucksandy true,but i think grouping them can work out if only teacher takes control in building the groups #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | argyre: | RT @seanbanville: March 14 is Pi Day (3.14) A lesson plan here: http://bit.ly/ckJLS4 #Twinglish #ESL #ELTChat #EFL |
| 12:35 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: Confront the problem @bethcagnol explains why – also ask your teens WHEN is a good time to talk and what about #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | sedayyildirim: | @chucksandyin general they escape planning things although there are students that want to do this willingly ! #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | EclipsingX: | @Shaunwilden @NikkiFortova Voki 1-about pags on blogs, instructions to activities, reviewing real life apps, speak for a minute etc #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | ColinTGraham: | Timed activities can work well, or TPR. Put texts on the wall, one Stu goes up reads, returns to table and dictates… movement #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | rliberni: | Sometimes they might just not rate the teacher or ‘like’ the teacher & this makes everything difficult! #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | barbsaka: | Another problem I heard mentioned earlier was keeping students talking in L2. Any tips? #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | JoHart: | Thank you for #eltchat – it just happens at a good time in the evening for me so you are getting my 2 penn’orth |
| 12:36 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @barbsaka: Another problem I heard mentioned earlier was keeping students talking in L2. Any tips? #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | hakan_sentrk: | @EclipsingX it’s still not a real time activity. making them speak “here and now” should be emphasized… #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | tasoulazac: | @lolonagi maybe they didn’t find it interesting #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | lolonagi: | they @EnglAdvantage did not even read, and those who read were talking of course about unknown thing for others #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | barbsaka: | @JoHart And grateful for it we are #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | @JoHart this is good Jo that’s why we moved the time so gr8 #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @barbsaka: Another problem I heard mentioned earlier was keeping students talking in L2. Any tips? #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: Would be nice to compile a list of topics/qs that work well with teens. #ELTchat |
| 12:36 pm | chucksandy: | RT @yitzha_sarwono: @ColinTGraham @chucksandy “grouping can work out if T takes control building groups.”Yes, if T knows Ss well. #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | Marisa_C: | Reward Ss who keep talking in English – stars, stickers, whatever – give a prize to team/group with most time in L2 #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @barbsaka: Another problem I heard mentioned earlier was keeping students talking in L2. #eltchat L1 might be being used 4a valid reason |
| 12:36 pm | lolonagi: | RT @annapires: Would be nice to compile a list of topics/qs that work well with teens. #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: Reward Ss who keep talking in English – stars, stickers, whatever – give a prize to team/group with most time in L2 #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | EclipsingX: | @sandymillin how about screen capturing how to do it before class, so that they can watch it in class and need internet connection #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | BethCagnol: | @sandymillin I set ground rules. “Today, keep it clean. But tomorrow, you can make it nasty.” Really! #ELTCHAT |
| 12:37 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @lolonagi maybe ask them why they didn’t read. Too hard? Not interesting? They got confused? #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | marynabadenhors: | #eltchat What about using interesting photos in Voicethread and getting all kids to leave comments? Voicethread resrces http://bit.ly/gRoD2G |
| 12:37 pm | janetbianchini: | Get ss to choose short article from current paper +extract question to ask classmates in small groups real-authentic/ self chosen #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @marynabadenhors: #eltchat What about using interesting photos in Voicethread and getting all kids to leave comments? Voicethread resrces http://bit.ly/gRoD2G |
| 12:37 pm | ColinTGraham: | @yitzha_sarwono Group building depends on the relationship between the class and teacher too. Frequency of class can be an issue #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Get ss to choose short article from current paper +extract question to ask classmates in small groups real-authentic/ self chosen #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | lolonagi: | RT @janetbianchini: Get ss to choose short article from current paper +extract question to ask classmates in small groups real-authentic/ self chosen #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @lolonagi what kind of reading did you give them? #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | chucksandy: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @barbsaka: Another problem I heard mentioned earlier was keeping students talking in L2. Any tips? #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | sedayyildirim: | @lolonagi debates were my favourite while I was studying English ! ?t really works while making students talk . #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @ColinTGraham: @yitzha_sarwono Group building depends on the relationship between the class and teacher too. Frequency of class can be an issue #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | barbsaka: | Most of the time I hear L1 it’s students asking “What are we supposed to be doing?” #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | cybraryman1: | @marynabadenhors Thanks for the Icebreaker post that I added to my collection http://tinyurl.com/4ev3r4y #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | brad5patterson: | @barbsaka you’ve got me there! Im focused on finding balance with the flow of class and also adding form #eltchat challenging n fun! |
| 12:38 pm | bc_germany: | RT @teachingenglish: source for graded reading material – some with videos and sound http://bit.ly/1zidSZ #teachingEnglish #britishcouncil #ELTChat #ESL #EFL |
| 12:38 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: Most of the time I hear L1 it’s students asking “What are we supposed to be doing?” #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: @marynabadenhors Thanks for the Icebreaker post that I added to my collection http://tinyurl.com/4ev3r4y #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | sandymillin: | @EclipsingX Good thinking – hadn’t thought of that! #ELTChat |
| 12:38 pm | EclipsingX: | @hakan_sentrk #ELTCHAT I agree but it’s a way of building their confidence at the start to be able to do the here and now.) #ELTChat |
| 12:38 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @barbsaka: Most of the time I hear L1 it’s students asking “What are we supposed to be doing?” #eltchat > Gd point – poor management? |
| 12:38 pm | hakan_sentrk: | @Shaunwilden sometimes L1 is a great discussion starter, u switch to L2 in the middle and they don’t even notice they switched 2 L2 #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | janetbianchini: | @barbsaka Cut up lots of speaking prompts and force ss to use as many as possible in their discussion as a competition -This works! #ELTchat |
| 12:38 pm | JoHart: | @barbsaka @rliberni #eltchat Thank you both – I feel a bit of a fraud tho cos mostly lit teach rather than ESL – similar principle imho |
| 12:38 pm | sandymillin: | RT @rliberni: Sometimes they might just not rate the teacher or ‘like’ the teacher & this makes everything difficult! #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | evemarfil: | RT @annapires: I find that problem-solving speaking activities work the best w/ my teens. #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | jackersjp: | @chucksandy #eltchat Is anyone using video as a way for Ss to express themselves? I am thinking PKs and theoneminutes.org as a couple ways. |
| 12:39 pm | chucksandy: | As a rule of thumb, never ask teens(or anyone)to do speaking tasks they wouldn’t do naturally in L1 / or you wouldn’t enjoy doing. #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | Shaunwilden: | @hakan_sentrk That’s a neat idea #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | ColinTGraham: | Most engaged group I ever taught was 30 JHS girls. I had to teach 90-minutes on ‘British Weddings’… They loved it. I didn’t! #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | BethCagnol: | Re: heckling, I also give them phrases on how to deal with the nasty stuff. Literally: a heckling lesson. #ELTCHAT |
| 12:39 pm | Marisa_C: | Are we assuming that all activities are beautifully/flawlessly managed? Often Ss are confused abt what to do and what to say #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @janetbianchini: @barbsaka Cut up lots of speaking prompts and force ss to use as many as possible in their discussion as a competition -This works! #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @ColinTGraham yes,well I guess I’m lucky enough to have good relationship with my students #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | @JoHart you shouldn’t as the principles are exactly the same when dealing with specific cohorts #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | sandymillin: | @barbsaka Yep, a whole #eltchat summary full of them http://bit.ly/hdYVoO |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @ColinTGraham: Most engaged group I ever taught was 30 JHS girls. I had to teach 90-minutes on ‘British Weddings’… They loved it. I didn’t! #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @yitzha_sarwono: @ColinTGraham yes,well I guess I’m lucky enough to have good relationship with my students #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | hakan_sentrk: | though error correction reminds them that they are in L2 and they switch back again or just stop talking #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: Are we assuming that all activities are beautifully/flawlessly managed? Often Ss are confused abt what to do and what to say #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | barbsaka: | Good tips. Mine is to make sure Ss know the language necessary to succeed in task, and know what to do during task. No excuses #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @chucksandy: As a rule of thumb, never ask teens(or anyone)to do speaking tasks they wouldn’t do naturally in L1 / or you wouldn’t enjoy doing. #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: Good tips. Mine is to make sure Ss know the language necessary to succeed in task, and know what to do during task. No excuses #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | barbsaka: | @sandymillin Yay you summarizer, you! #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | lolonagi: | RT @chucksandy: As a rule of thumb, never ask teens(or anyone)to do speaking tasks they wouldn’t do naturally in L1 / or you wouldn’t enjoy doing. #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | hakan_sentrk: | @jackersjp I always use videos to provide relevant background info #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | chucksandy: | RT @jackersjp: “Is anyone using video as a way for Ss to express themselves? PKs and theoneminutes.org a couple ways.” Nice ideas! #eltchat |
| 12:40 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @barbsaka: Good tips. Mine is to make sure Ss know the language necessary to succeed in task, and know what to do during task. No excuses #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | sandymillin: | RT @janetbianchini: @barbsaka Cut up lots of speaking prompts and force ss to use as many as possible in their discussion as a competition -This works! #ELTchat |
| 12:41 pm | ColinTGraham: | @barbsaka Sometimes you are asking Ss to discuss something they haven’t done in L1 yet… familiar topics will be more successful. #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @barbsaka: Good tips. Mine is to make sure Ss know the language necessary to succeed in task, and know what to do during task. No excuses #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | rliberni: | My tip is to show you respect their opinions and ideas and that it is only the L2 that is being considered #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | janetbianchini: | @barbsaka Yes, construct stages together / scaffold and leave model up on w’board is good for ss to refer to #ELTchat |
| 12:41 pm | chucksandy: | RT @barbsaka: Mine is to make sure Ss know the language necessary to succeed in task, & know what to do during task.No excuses #eltchat |
| 12:41 pm | rliberni: | RT @annapires: Gr8 tip! RT @chucksandy never ask teens(or any1)to do speaking tasks they wouldn’t do naturally in L1/ or you wouldn’t enjoy doing. #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: @barbsaka Yes, construct stages together / scaffold and leave model up on w’board is good for ss to refer to #ELTchat |
| 12:42 pm | barbsaka: | @ColinTGraham I think so, too. Vocbulary plus concept is a double challenge #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | chucksandy: | RT @ColinTGraham: Sometimes you are asking Ss to discuss something they havent done in L1 yet… familiar topics more successful. #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | yearinthelifeof: | RT @annapires: Gr8 tip! RT @chucksandy never ask teens(or any1)to do speaking tasks they wouldn’t do naturally in L1/ or you wouldn’t enjoy doing. #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | barbsaka: | @janetbianchini You make it sound so nice and academic #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | lolonagi: | what about getting Ss out of their comfort zone #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | KarenInGreece: | My tips… prepare sts well, give thinking/prep time, be patient and monitor to ensure they’re on task! #ELTChat |
| 12:42 pm | hakan_sentrk: | I feel that the moment the ss know its a “task” they don’t like to speak. but when it’s leisure talk, they try to talk even in L2 #eltchat |
| 12:42 pm | barbsaka: | RT @KarenInGreece: My tips… prepare sts well, give thinking/prep time, be patient and monitor to ensure they’re on task! #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | chucksandy: | RT @lolonagi: what about getting Ss out of their comfort zone #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | sandymillin: | @jackersjp Yep: here’s a video I made with my teens: http://www.vimeo.com/20172891 #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | barbsaka: | @lolonagi I think speaking in English IS out of their comfort zone regardless of topic #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @sandymillin: @jackersjp Yep: here’s a video I made with my teens: http://www.vimeo.com/20172891 #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | chucksandy: | RT @KarenInGreece: “My tips… prepare sts well, give thinking/prep time, be patient and monitor to ensure theyre on task!” yes! #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @barbsaka: @lolonagi I think speaking in English IS out of their comfort zone regardless of topic #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | EclipsingX: | S/thing that gets 40 mins of continuous speech is a fav. series watch t/gethr new ep. and then discuss in a circle-#ELTChat #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | lolonagi: | I tried to talk about one of the topics i know they will be reluctant 2 talk about and worked well ! #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @sandymillin: @jackersjp Yep: here’s a video I made with my teens: http://www.vimeo.com/20172891 #eltchat |
| 12:43 pm | janetbianchini: | Once asked group of teens to bring in own choice of song and play +get others to ask qs why chosen etc – worked ok for opinions #ELTchat |
| 12:43 pm | missnoor28: | RT @MoodleMcKean: #ELT needs to get a grip on smartphones | Education | Guardian http://bit.ly/hNTNda #eltchat #elearning #mlearning #edtech |
| 12:43 pm | rliberni: | RT @EclipsingX: S/thing that gets 40 mins of continuous speech is a fav. series watch t/gethr new ep. and then discuss in a circle-#ELTChat #ELTChat |
| 12:43 pm | barbsaka: | Cool! RT @lolonagi: I tried to talk about one of the topics i know they will be reluctant 2 talk about and worked well ! #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | Marisa_C: | Have some extra support available for weaker Ss – e,g, some useful phrases, ideas to use during speaking #ELTchat |
| 12:44 pm | brad5patterson: | @sandymillin @barbsaka what a list! good ideas here for folks who need a bit more push in the right direction http://bit.ly/hdYVoO #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | ColinTGraham: | Set very clear tasks with opening/closing structures, time limit. Quick change of focus/activity/angle…what I call MTV teaching! #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | rliberni: | RT @brad5patterson: @sandymillin @barbsaka what a list! good ideas here for folks who need a bit more push in the right direction http://bit.ly/hdYVoO #eltchat |
| 12:44 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @KarenInGreece: My tips… prepare sts well, give thinking/prep time, be patient and monitor to ensure they’re on task! #ELTChat |
| 12:44 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @sandymillin: @jackersjp Yep: here’s a video I made with my teens: http://www.vimeo.com/20172891 #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | chucksandy: | Radio Dj: Students introduce a song / singer they love as if they are a DJ / explain how it makes them feel. Others comment. Teens! #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | my tips:prepare the familiar topics,list of languages to help them to speak,always encourage them and don’t say that they are wrong #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | ColinTGraham: | “Gossip” is a good activity. 2-min conversation, change partner, talk about what you just talked about with 1st partner… recycle #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | hakan_sentrk: | @ColinTGraham MTV teaching is agreat term for a MTV generation. #eltchat |
| 12:45 pm | janetbianchini: | @JoHart Good night! Thanks for your great ideas #ELTchat |
| 12:45 pm | gknightbkk: | Make sure Ss get to repeat speaking tasks in later classes. Our stories always get better the more we tell them #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | Marisa_C: | Looks like we have covered a similar topic in the past – but some revision never hurt anyone #ELTchat |
| 12:46 pm | chucksandy: | provide task for students that can be completed on multiple levels. Weakest Ss can succeed. Stronger Ss can add complexity & shine. #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | chucksandy: | RT @gknightbkk: Make sure Ss get to repeat speaking tasks in later classes. Our stories always get better the more we tell them #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | Shaunwilden: | So we’ve coined ‘MTV teaching’ and ‘Tongue birth’ during this #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @chucksandy: Radio Dj: Students introduce a song / singer they love as if they are a DJ / explain how it makes them feel. Others comment. Teens! #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | lolonagi: | @chucksandy great idea for dealing with multiple levels #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | ColinTGraham: | @hakan_sentrk I’d watch MTV to get ideas for topics/style… Trouble is I can’t stand much more than 5 minutes of it! #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | sandymillin: | What opinion-based topics have your SS responded well to in the past? #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | brad5patterson: | @chucksandy or another winner for my classes… what would you do with a million dollars? #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | lolonagi: | do you know this TED presentation about MTV #eltchat as shapping the world? |
| 12:46 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @gknightbkk: Make sure Ss get to repeat speaking tasks in later classes. Our stories always get better the more we tell them #eltchat |
| 12:46 pm | EclipsingX: | RT @sandymillin: @jackersjp Yep: heres a video I made with my teens: http://www.vimeo.com/20172891 #ELTChat |
| 12:47 pm | Marisa_C: | Another tip – allow some rehearsal time #ELTchat – even we need it before we do a presentation – why wouldn’t students? |
| 12:47 pm | chucksandy: | RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy or another winner for my classes… what would you do with a million dollars? fun! #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | chucksandy: | RT @Marisa_C: Another tip-allow some rehearsal time #ELTchat – even we need it before we do a presentation-why wouldnt students? #eltchat |
| 12:47 pm | ColinTGraham: | @sandymillin Girls have opinions about fashion, make-up! Generally: music, films, DVDs, video games, dating… #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @ColinTGraham @hakan_sentrk ‘Your favourite TV show is rubbish’ discuss #ELTchat |
| 12:48 pm | janetbianchini: | @sandymillin #eltchat fame / social issues eg homelessness / drugs etc / lifestyle / sports / achievements |
| 12:48 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @lolonagi: what about getting Ss out of their comfort zone #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | sandymillin: | RT @NikkiFortova: my tip: If you have a board, use it as a frame of reference for learners for the speaking activity. #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | chucksandy: | @marisa_c: yes, rehearsal time’s essential. So is doing a task multiple times w/ different dynamics: pairs, groups, dyactic circles #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @yearinthelifeof: @ColinTGraham @hakan_sentrk ‘Your favourite TV show is rubbish’ discuss #ELTchat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @chucksandy: @marisa_c: yes, rehearsal time’s essential. So is doing a task multiple times w/ different dynamics: pairs, groups, dyactic circles #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @EclipsingX: RT @sandymillin: @jackersjp Yep: heres a video I made with my teens: http://www.vimeo.com/20172891 #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @hakan_sentrk: I feel that the moment the ss know its a “task” they don’t like to speak. but when it’s leisure talk, they try to talk even in L2 #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | hakan_sentrk: | @ColinTGraham that is the problem: ss cannot stand 5 minutes of what we (pre-MTV gen) offer them!!! #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @sandymillin Technology:good or bad, GM Food, Role of women, More important friend or family?, Better to make $ or be happy? #ELTChat |
| 12:48 pm | sandymillin: | RT @yearinthelifeof: @ColinTGraham @hakan_sentrk ‘Your favourite TV show is rubbish’ discuss #ELTchat |
| 12:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: RT @NikkiFortova: my tip: If you have a board, use it as a frame of reference for learners for the speaking activity. #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @chucksandy: RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy or another winner for my classes… what would you do with a million dollars? fun! #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @Marisa_C: Another tip – allow some rehearsal time #ELTchat – even we need it before we do a presentation – why wouldn’t students? |
| 12:48 pm | barbsaka: | 3-2-1 (minute) conversation is fun. Ss repeat convo 3 times w/3 different people, each time shorter time. By end, fluent/confident #eltchat |
| 12:48 pm | Marisa_C: | Teen usually find discussion topics rather boring – give them an angle e,g, discuss as if you were a priest/lawyer/alien #ELTchat |
| 12:48 pm | jmplus2: | RT @ColinTGraham: “Gossip” is a good activity. 2-min conversation, change partner, talk about what you just talked about with 1st partner… recycle #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: Teen usually find discussion topics rather boring – give them an angle e,g, discuss as if you were a priest/lawyer/alien #ELTchat |
| 12:49 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @sandymillin: RT @NikkiFortova: my tip: If you have a board, use it as a frame of reference for learners for the speaking activity. #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | EclipsingX: | Also this TED Talk on Future TECH gets them going.) http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/481 and me.) #ELTChat |
| 12:49 pm | sandymillin: | RT @johannastirling: Why you shouldn’t marry a man who can’t spell. Very funny. http://bit.ly/XmmWd POssible teen topic #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @Marisa_C: Teen usually find discussion topics rather boring – give them an angle e,g, discuss as if you were a priest/lawyer/alien #ELTchat |
| 12:49 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @barbsaka: @lolonagi I think speaking in English IS out of their comfort zone regardless of topic #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @EclipsingX: Also this TED Talk on Future TECH gets them going.) http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/481 and me.) #ELTChat |
| 12:49 pm | jackersjp: | @chucksandy RT @lolonagi: what about getting Ss out of their comfort zone #eltchat This is why Im thinkin presentations and video are 2 ways |
| 12:49 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: RT @johannastirling: Why you shouldn’t marry a man who can’t spell. Very funny. http://bit.ly/XmmWd POssible teen topic #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | ColinTGraham: | @yearinthelifeof @hakan_sentrk Better still, if you haven’t seen their favourite TV programme, get them to describe it. #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | brad5patterson: | @chucksandy they can go ALL over the place with talking about $$$. and I’ve found they like the “adult” feel it gives them #eltchat |
| 12:49 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @ColinTGraham Or pretend you haven’t seen it. #ELTChat |
| 12:49 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @Marisa_C Teen usually find discussion topics rather boring – give them an angle – discuss as if you were a priest/lawyer/alien #ELTchat |
| 12:50 pm | sedayyildirim: | speaking activities are the hardest but the funniest ones without any doubt ! #eltchat |
| 12:50 pm | lolonagi: | RT @brad5patterson: @chucksandy they can go ALL over the place with talking about $$$. and I’ve found they like the “adult” feel it gives them #eltchat |
| 12:50 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @Marisa_C yes,rehearsal time always build their confidence better #eltchat |
| 12:50 pm | KarenInGreece: | Pyramid discussions for opinions/agreeing/disagreeing are good. In-built repetition and rehearsal #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @KarenInGreece: Pyramid discussions for opinions/agreeing/disagreeing are good. In-built repetition and rehearsal #ELTChat |
| 12:50 pm | hakan_sentrk: | RT @ColinTGraham: Better still, if you haven’t seen their favourite TV programme, get them to describe it. #eltchat definitely works! |
| 12:50 pm | lolonagi: | what about this topic, what boys do not like about girls and vice versa #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | brad5patterson: | @janetbianchini @Marisa_C I’ve seen success with “job fair” where one is the boss hiring and other is applying. Role-playin rox #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | EclipsingX: | Also making them responsible for the talking topic. They choose and lead the talking circle + keep the conversation going.) #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | Shaunwilden: | If we teach in language schools we need to remember that in state schools the teens may not be encouraged to speak #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | chucksandy: | RT @hakan_sentrk:the moment ss know its a task they dont speak but when its leisure talk they talk. – So make that the task ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | BethCagnol: | RT @KarenInGreece: My tips… prepare sts well, give thinking/prep time, be patient and monitor to ensure they’re on task! #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | barbsaka: | @Shaunwilden So true #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | sandymillin: | RT @Shaunwilden: If we teach in language schools we need to remember that in state schools the teens may not be encouraged to speak #eltchat |
| 12:51 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @lolonagi Could be great. On V-Day we had great discussion on what girls and boys want from each other, 90 mins of non-stop talk #ELTChat |
| 12:51 pm | brad5patterson: | @lolonagi boys vs girls could work… just would depend on the students/culture etc. Never tried. #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | hakan_sentrk: | ss love it when they get into the “I am showing the teacher something new” mode, so we need to exploit that #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | ColinTGraham: | @EnglAdvantage You obviously haven’t seen many of the offerings on TV in Japan… Couldn’t understand, even with enough Jpnese! #ELTChat |
| 12:52 pm | monalisa_eigo: | RT @barbsaka: Most of the time I hear L1 it’s students asking “What are we supposed to be doing?” #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | Marisa_C: | @brad5patterson Even more fun when the applicant applying for the wrong job! #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | rliberni: | @CeciELT school made short films and then had an Oscar Night! Fantastic #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | chucksandy: | last night i attended a uni toastmasters group in Dubai. Ss way out of their comfort zone but having fun,speaking a lot Brilliant. #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT school made short films and then had an Oscar Night! Fantastic #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | EnglAdvantage: | RT @Shaunwilden: in state schools the teens may not be encouraged to speak #eltchat >or are punished for every mistake so speak short |
| 12:52 pm | hakan_sentrk: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT school made short films and then had an Oscar Night! Fantastic #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @EnglAdvantage: @lolonagi Could be great. On V-Day we had great discussion on what girls and boys want from each other, 90 mins of non-stop talk #ELTChat |
| 12:52 pm | chucksandy: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT school made short films and then had an Oscar Night! Fantastic.LOVE it! #eltchat |
| 12:52 pm | EclipsingX: | @Shaunwilden @Marisa_C and also getting them to change roles. I did one where the guys/women, women, guys + they discussed gender #ELTChat |
| 12:53 pm | lolonagi: | @brad5patterson yes, totally agree about the culture , but hilarious #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | barbsaka: | Ss also keen to talk about themselves…Have you ever…? If you could buy anything/go anwhere/meet anyone…? #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | evemarfil: | RT @ColinTGraham: Set very clear tasks with opening/closing structures, time limit. Quick change of focus/activity/angle…what I call MTV teaching! #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | chucksandy: | RT @hakan_sentrk: ss love it when they get into the “I am showing the teacher something new” mode, so we need to exploit that. Yes! #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | hakan_sentrk: | RT @barbsaka: Ss also keen to talk about themselves…Have you ever…? If you could buy anything/go anwhere/meet anyone…? #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | evemarfil: | RT @barbsaka: @lolonagi I think speaking in English IS out of their comfort zone regardless of topic #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | brad5patterson: | @Marisa_C Good idea!!! haha or, if they’re hiring to be a spy, or a garbageman! one of my favorite classes ever!!! #eltchat |
| 12:53 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @rliberni: @CeciELT school made short films and then had an Oscar Night! Fantastic #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @barbsaka: Ss also keen to talk about themselves…Have you ever…? If you could buy anything/go anwhere/meet anyone…? #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | ColinTGraham: | The mini/nano-presentation idea can work well (2 mins or 5 mins on free choice of subject). Q&A optional. Like Pecha-Kucha in Japan #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @ColinTGraham Granted. Just saying faking ignorance gets them talking as much as real ignorance. “Lost? What’s that about?” #ELTChat |
| 12:54 pm | brad5patterson: | @rliberni @CeciELT Oscar night! what a cool idea! SSs must have loved it! #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | NikkiFortova: | RT @hakan_sentrk: RT @barbsaka: Ss also keen to talk about themselves…Have you ever…? If you could buy anything/go anwhere/meet anyone…? #eltchat |
| 12:54 pm | Marisa_C: | @rliberni bye Berni and thanks for great moderation! #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @barbsaka: Ss also keen to talk about themselves…Have you ever…? If you could buy anything/go anwhere/meet anyone…? #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | lolonagi: | RT @brad5patterson: @Marisa_C Good idea!!! haha or, if they’re hiring to be a spy, or a garbageman! one of my favorite classes ever!!! #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | EclipsingX: | @evemarfil @barbsaka @lolonagi I agree with you on comfort zone. You need to work on gaining their trust.) #ELTChat |
| 12:55 pm | chucksandy: | Teens I know love projects, love to be challenged, love to explain what they think to someone who’ll listen. Really listen. #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | MissQuick: | @barbsaka 2nd Conditionals are good for teenagers too – If you were rich etc…. #ELTchat |
| 12:55 pm | brad5patterson: | @barbsaka yes the any/any/any world is open idea is always a winner, especially when they get to express as u said #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @chucksandy: Teens I know love projects, love to be challenged, love to explain what they think to someone who’ll listen. Really listen. #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | janetbianchini: | @rliberni Bye Berni! Thanks for fab moderation Have a nice day!#eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | JillBromen: | @marynabadenhors thank you! Glad I got in on tail end of #ELTchat … Great group! |
| 12:55 pm | ColinTGraham: | @EnglAdvantage You have to be careful they don’t catch that you’re faking it, though, or make it really obvious that you are! #ELTChat |
| 12:55 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @barbsaka: Ss also keen to talk about themselves…Have you ever…? If you could buy anything/go anwhere/meet anyone…? #eltchat |
| 12:55 pm | evemarfil: | RT @janetbianchini: RT @Marisa_C Teen usually find discussion topics rather boring – give them an angle – discuss as if you were a priest/lawyer/alien #ELTchat |
| 12:56 pm | lolonagi: | what about oscar night, how would u orgnazie that ? #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | barbsaka: | So to summarize a bit–topics that are teen centered or teen selected work best, right? #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | ozsolmaz: | oh I just noticed the topic of #eltchat this week. My last blog post (just blogged!) is quite related. too bad i missed! :/ |
| 12:56 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @barbsaka: So to summarize a bit–topics that are teen centered or teen selected work best, right? #eltchat > and teen defined/selected? |
| 12:56 pm | barbsaka: | Make sure students know what to do and have the language needed to talk to keep them in L2 #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | chucksandy: | RT @barbsaka: So to summarize a bit–topics that are teen centered or teen selected work best, right?. That sums it up Barb ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | JillBromen: | RT @marynabadenhors: See: http://bit.ly/icYnIV <- collaborative learning tools to encourage students to talk and collaborate #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | sandymillin: | @ozsolmaz You could post the link #eltchat |
| 12:56 pm | ColinTGraham: | Balloon debates can work well too. #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | EclipsingX: | RT @chucksandy: Really listen. It’s true they know if you are interested or not. I try to talk to them outside class as well. #ELTChat |
| 12:56 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @barbsaka So to summarize a bit–topics that are teen centered or teen selected work best, right? #eltchat – agree! |
| 12:57 pm | ozsolmaz: | I just blogged ‘Discussions: Great or not?’ http://ozsolmaz.edublogs.org/2011/03/09/discussion-great-or-not/ #eltchat #elt |
| 12:57 pm | Marisa_C: | @brad5patterson cheers and thanks for joining #ELTchat |
| 12:57 pm | chucksandy: | Also to sum up: to teach teens, think like a teen. #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | barbsaka: | And leave room for their twisted and unique world view #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | mariazygourakis: | #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | Shaunwilden: | RT @barbsaka: And leave room for their twisted and unique world view #eltchat ) |
| 12:57 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @ozsolmaz: I just blogged ‘Discussions: Great or not?’ http://ozsolmaz.edublogs.org/2011/03/09/discussion-great-or-not/ #eltchat #elt |
| 12:57 pm | EclipsingX: | RT @ozsolmaz: I just blogged Discussions: Great or not? http://ozsolmaz.edublogs.org/2011/03/09/discussion-great-or-not/ .)) #ELTChat |
| 12:57 pm | ColinTGraham: | Eew! RT @barbsaka: And leave room for their twisted and unique world view #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | chucksandy: | @EclipsingX: R “Really listen. Its true they know if you are interested or not. I try to talk to them outside class as well.” Nice #eltchat |
| 12:57 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @barbsaka: And leave room for their twisted and unique world view #eltchat > Exploit their funny bone, their love of the paradox |
| 12:57 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @barbsaka Interested and prepared. And twisted. Sounds about right. #ELTChat |
| 12:58 pm | ozsolmaz: | Fantastic! >> RT @chucksandy: Also to sum up: to teach teens, think like a teen. #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @barbsaka yup! the topics that are teen centered and list of phrases to help them out #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | barbsaka: | @Shaunwilden I’ve never known anyone who was lukewarm about teaching teens. Love it or hate it (I love it!) #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | jackersjp: | #eltchat friend tells me many small tv stations abroad’ll take videos bySs abt local culture since these stationsRlow budget.Great chance4Ss |
| 12:58 pm | lolonagi: | am hungry after this wild chat #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | evemarfil: | @barbsaka No doubt teen centered or teen selected topics work best. They have got to mirrow themselves in it. #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | chucksandy: | RT @barbsaka: And leave room for their twisted and unique world view #eltchat > Exploit their funny bone, their love of the paradox #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | yearinthelifeof: | @Marisa_C @barbsaka Add to that topics with a clear, appreciable purpose #ELTchat |
| 12:58 pm | janetbianchini: | Thanks for another fab #ELTchat and for fantastic moderating as usual!! |
| 12:58 pm | barbsaka: | RT @yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C @barbsaka Add to that topics with a clear, appreciable purpose #ELTchat |
| 12:58 pm | mbfxc: | RT @marynabadenhors: See: http://bit.ly/icYnIV <- collaborative learning tools to encourage students to talk and collaborate #eltchat |
| 12:58 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @yearinthelifeof: @Marisa_C @barbsaka Add to that topics with a clear, appreciable purpose #ELTchat |
| 12:59 pm | evemarfil: | RT @ColinTGraham: Balloon debates can work well too. #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | Shaunwilden: | @barbsaka So true – never any inbetween – I used to love it but havent had the chance for a while #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | ColinTGraham: | Don’t try to ‘be their friend’, teen friendships are difficult enough as it is. #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | EclipsingX: | @barbsaka @Shaunwilden yep it’s true, can be challenging but amazing.)) #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | EnglAdvantage: | @ColinTGraham True enough. #ELTChat |
| 12:59 pm | Marisa_C: | @Shaunwilden me too #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | evemarfil: | RT @barbsaka: And leave room for their twisted and unique world view #eltchat |
| 12:59 pm | chucksandy: | and stop trying to turn them into adults. They’re on their way. Step back and let teens be teens. Step back to let them learn. #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @marynabadenhors See: http://bit.ly/icYnIV <- collaborative learning tools to encourage students to talk and collaborate #eltchat -thanks |
| 1:00 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @barbsaka and leave out your educator image once in a while and put on your cool hat to blend in,especially after the class ^^ #eltchat |
| 1:00 pm | NikkiFortova: | RT @janetbianchini: RT @marynabadenhors See: http://bit.ly/icYnIV <- collaborative learning tools to encourage students to talk and collaborate #eltchat -thanks |
| 1:01 pm | BethCagnol: | #ELTchat Commute to work underground made the concoction slow, but it was a great chat! |
| 1:01 pm | sandymillin: | The lesson I did on teens and technology http://wp.me/p18yiK-5x for you to download and use if you like! #eltchat |
| 1:02 pm | NikkiFortova: | Thanks for lots and lots of great ideas and links #ELTchat |
Transcript for the 21:00 p.m. GMT #ELTchat on the topic of ’How do you revisit taught material and recycle effectively?’
| 9:01 pm | janetbianchini: | @Marisa_C Would be delighted! Ok #eltchat Let’s go!! How do you revisit taught material and recycle effectively? |
| 9:02 pm | lolonagi: | excercises, songs #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | ESLlibrary: | RT @iraloiola: 16 present perfect songs | Luiz Otávio’s English Language Teaching Page http://goo.gl/e1Ikh #ELTchat #esl via @alexgfrancisco @anamariacult |
| 9:02 pm | lolonagi: | I would provide more excercises or activities about grammar #eltchat |
| 9:02 pm | janetbianchini: | Every day a little bit of recycling from previous day is a n essential MUST!! #ELTchat |
| 9:02 pm | Marisa_C: | @KarenInGreece Hello Karen – wish I had some of that – still at school! #ELTchat |
| 9:03 pm | lolonagi: | @janetbianchini not sure about that esp, everyday I have extra #eltchat |
| 9:03 pm | vladkaslniecko: | teaching/learning without recycling is useless, i guess #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @PearsonLongman: I’ll be tweeting about this all day. Stacy Hagen is leading a gigantic webinar tomorrow on teaching grammar http://bit.ly/aoDUoN #eltchat |
| 9:04 pm | janetbianchini: | #ELTchat I would do revision games and activities eg mimes of new vocabulary / pictionary / The shouting game etc |
| 9:04 pm | ESLlibrary: | RT @janetbianchini: Every day a little bit of recycling from previous day is a n essential MUST!! #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm | lolonagi: | RT @vladkaslniecko: teaching/learning without recycling is useless, i guess #ELTchat >agree |
| 9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | So can we get started? Who asked this question btw – are you here? #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm | SueannaN: | always do some kind of language auction on a FRiday too #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm | annabooklover: | RT @lolonagi excercises, songs #eltchat || agree. songs are excellent revision and so real life too! |
| 9:04 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @janetbianchini: Every day a little bit of recycling from previous day is a n essential MUST!! #ELTchat |
| 9:04 pm | DinaDobrou: | Depends on how heavy a program is. Sometimes I feel we overload sts with info. not enough time for proper recycling #ELTChat |
| 9:04 pm | JoshSRound: | @SueAnnan auctions, yes always great fun #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | annabooklover: | RT @vladkaslniecko: teaching/learning without recycling is useless, i guess #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | Something old, something new, something borrowed… #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | janetbianchini: | @lolonagi Only a few minutes as a warmer – always works a treat? #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | lolonagi: | RT @janetbianchini: @lolonagi Only a few minutes as a warmer – always works a treat? #ELTchat> agree |
| 9:05 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @janetbianchini: Every day a little bit of recycling from previous day is a n essential MUST!! #ELTchat |
| 9:05 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @JoshSRound: @SueAnnan auctions, yes always great fun #ELTchat > Can u explain how u organise them PLS |
| 9:05 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @Marisa_C: Something old, something new, something borrowed… #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | vladkaslniecko: | …recycling can imitate a real life learning (outside the classroom)…practice the same things in various contexts #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | ESLlibrary: | Gotta love “hot seat” for recycling vocabulary and waking up a sleepy group #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | KarenInGreece: | little and often is the key to revision! #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | ELTExperiences: | I taught a class today covering for a teacher but recycled and checked vocal from the previous day. It really helped the adults. #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @janetbianchini: Every day a little bit of recycling from previous day is a n essential MUST!! #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @ELTExperiences: I taught a class today covering for a teacher but recycled and checked vocal from the previous day. It really helped the adults. #ELTChat |
| 9:06 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @vladkaslniecko: …recycling can imitate a real life learning (outside the classroom)…practice the same things in various contexts #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | juliachumphreys: | @SueAnnan How does a language auction work? #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @Marisa_C: Something old, something new, something borrowed… #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | janetbianchini: | Without recycling, ss forget! Use it , or lose it!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @janetbianchini: Without recycling, ss forget! Use it , or lose it!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | annabooklover: | RT @KarenInGreece: little and often is the key to revision! #ELTchat |
| 9:06 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @janetbianchini: @lolonagi Only a few mins as warmer – always works a treat? #ELTchat>Yes, keeps ‘em motivated 4 that days lesson 2 |
| 9:07 pm | lolonagi: | I attned this presetation about recycling vocab 1, using them in diff contexts, activities, revisting them #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | KarenInGreece: | @vladkaslniecko yes various contexts and skills is key #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @janetbianchini: Without recycling, ss forget! Use it , or lose it!!! #ELTchat? Especially younger Ls – need LOADS |
| 9:07 pm | ELTExperiences: | @Marisa_C been too busy to follow twitter but tonight is different. #ELTChat |
| 9:07 pm | janetbianchini: | @KarenInGreece little and often is the key to revision! #ELTchat Exactly! Agreed |
| 9:07 pm | lolonagi: | @Marisa_C forgetting, our learners tend to forget easily learned vocab even after the session #eltchat |
| 9:07 pm | KarenInGreece: | When do you do most of your revision/recycling? Start of lesson? #ELTchat |
| 9:07 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: @KarenInGreece little and often is the key to revision! #ELTchat Exactly! Agreed |
| 9:08 pm | evab2001: | RT @janetbianchini: Without recycling, ss forget! Use it , or lose it!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | cybraryman1: | Recycling also helps those students who were absent the previous day. #ELTChat |
| 9:08 pm | Fuertesun: | @KarenInGreece Start and end s a recap #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | ELTExperiences: | I read somewhere that students need to see a word twenty times till it is in the front of their mind. #ELTChat |
| 9:08 pm | rliberni: | @Fuertesun Hi there recycling is really key to retention I think #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @cybraryman1: Recycling also helps those students who were absent the previous day. #ELTChat |
| 9:08 pm | lolonagi: | RT @Marisa_C: @rliberni Hi Berni great to see you! Welcome! #eltchat the beginning, may be towards the middle #eltchat |
| 9:08 pm | DinaDobrou: | @JoshSRound Can you not use the long posts? they don’t appear on #eltchat column here. thnx. and good eve btw |
| 9:08 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTExperiences: I read somewhere that students need to see a word twenty times till it is in the front of their mind. #ELTChat |
| 9:08 pm | janetbianchini: | I need to revise when I’m a student or else I can’t remember stuff so why not do the same with our students? #ELTchat |
| 9:08 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @janetbianchini: Without recycling, ss forget! Use it , or lose it!!! #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @lolonagi: @Marisa_C forgetting, our learners tend to forget easily learned vocab even after the session #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat Especially vocab..quick revision games to warm up and help lang ‘sink in’. |
| 9:09 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: I need to revise when I’m a student or else I can’t remember stuff so why not do the same with our students? #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | lolonagi: | my problem in recylcling is the techniquessssssssss #eltchat finding new tech to present old thaings #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @rliberni: @Fuertesun Hi there recycling is really key to retention I think #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Especially vocab..quick revision games to warm up and help lang ‘sink in’. |
| 9:09 pm | Fuertesun: | Use the walls to scaffold previously taught lang and vocab #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou I have lost my long posts since I updated my tweetdeck – looks like I downdated #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | evab2001: | @janetbianchini agree Janet,recycling is the key 2 make sts learn,unfortunately they don’t study if we recycle more’ll be memorable #eltchat |
| 9:09 pm | cybraryman1: | @lolonagi Good idea to have students create their own vocabulary dictionary & include pictures #ELTChat |
| 9:09 pm | NikkiFortova: | RT @KarenInGreece: When do you do most of your revision/recycling? Start of lesson? #ELTchat >I try at the beginning and end of lessons |
| 9:09 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @ELTExperiences yes, there are studies..twenty times is average…some words need to be presented more than that!!! unbelievable #ELTchat |
| 9:09 pm | theteacherjames: | @KarenInGreece #eltchat I prefer to do activities that recycle rather than recycling activities, if you see what I mean! |
| 9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @cybraryman1: @lolonagi Good idea to have students create their own vocabulary dictionary & include pictures #ELTChat |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | @lolonagi yes, there is a tendency s’times for std to say ‘we’ve already done this’! #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Especially vocab..quick revision games to warm up and help lang ‘sink in’. |
| 9:10 pm | cybraryman1: | @ELTExperiences The key is that they have to start using the words to really learn them. #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @theteacherjames: @KarenInGreece #eltchat I prefer to do activities that recycle rather than recycling activities, if you see what I mean! |
| 9:10 pm | ELTExperiences: | But how many words are useful to recycle in a lesson? Ten, twenty, thirty, one hundred? #ELTChat |
| 9:10 pm | lolonagi: | RT @cybraryman1: @lolonagi Good idea to have students create their own vocabulary dictionary & include pictures #ELTChat> great idea |
| 9:10 pm | juliachumphreys: | @KarenInGreece Yes usually at the beginning of the lesson to review previous lesson’s language #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | annabooklover: | @ELTExperiences It’s even more than that, something like forty (times to see a new word b4 learning it) but let me find the link #ELTchat |
| 9:10 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Fuertesun: Use the walls to scaffold previously taught lang and vocab #eltchat > posters? notes? projects? |
| 9:10 pm | SueannaN: | RT @ELTExperiences: But how many words are useful to recycle in a lesson? Ten, twenty, thirty, one hundred? #ELTChat not many. Ten? |
| 9:10 pm | cybraryman1: | RT @Fuertesun: Use the walls to scaffold previously taught lang and vocab #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C all of the above… #eltchat |
| 9:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: @ELTExperiences The key is that they have to start using the words to really learn them. #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | ESLlibrary: | Is end of class the best time to review vocab? Watched a video about memory recently that suggested this. #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | KarenInGreece: | @NikkiFortova I do more at beginning, but need to organise time more so can do it at the end too. #ELTchat |
| 9:11 pm | Smoken_Flames: | RT @Fuertesun: Use the walls to scaffold previously taught lang and vocab #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | rliberni: | @cybraryman1 I agree! Use it or lose it #eltchat |
| 9:11 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTExperiences: But how many words are useful to recycle in a lesson? Ten, twenty, thirty, one hundred? #ELTChat |
| 9:11 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Marisa_C @cybraryman1 @lolonagi we also create students generated month vocab lists…all different and unique #ELTchat |
| 9:11 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @Fuertesun: Use the walls to scaffold previously taught lang and vocab #eltchat >> do you put us lots of things on n’bds? |
| 9:11 pm | evab2001: | RT @theteacherjames: @KarenInGreece #eltchat I prefer to do activities that recycle rather than recycling activities, if you see what I mean! |
| 9:11 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @NikkiFortova @KarenInGreece everywhere – beginning, end, middle – whichever material can be linket to anything from the past |
| 9:11 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @Marisa_C @cybraryman1 @lolonagi we also create students generated month vocab lists…all different and unique #ELTchat |
| 9:11 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @theteacherjames: @KarenInGreece #eltchat I prefer to do activities that recycle rather than recycling activities, if you see what I mean! |
| 9:11 pm | theteacherjames: | @ELTExperiences #eltchat We need to create activities where the recycling is done naturally, rather than just for revision. |
| 9:11 pm | SueannaN: | RT @theteacherjames: @ELTExperiences #eltchat We need to create activities where the recycling is done naturally, rather than just for revision. |
| 9:12 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @NikkiFortova @KarenInGreece everywhere – beginning, end, middle – whichever material can be linket to anything from the past |
| 9:12 pm | cybraryman1: | @rliberni They may have had it already but in many cases don’t remember it when questioned #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat Again diaries can help – revise and review..in a personal way -ss can draw/use L1 to personalise and recycle later |
| 9:12 pm | lolonagi: | RT @ESLlibrary: Is end of class the best time to review vocab? Watched a video about memory recently that suggested this. #ELTChat >agrree |
| 9:12 pm | KarenInGreece: | @ELTExperiences Good question.Especially when u have a coursebook page full of vocab exercises, which vocab do u choose to review? #ELTchat |
| 9:12 pm | rliberni: | I think this is an area where students can do their own work and use online stuff #eltchat |
| 9:12 pm | evab2001: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Especially vocab..quick revision games to warm up and help lang ‘sink in’. |
| 9:13 pm | cybraryman1: | An important thing is when a word is introduced it should be used in forthcoming lessons to reinforce it with students #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @theteacherjames yep! make it as natural and authentic as possible… real life context #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | janetbianchini: | #ELTchat They can do little open class competitions that they create for homework, ready for next class |
| 9:13 pm | ESLlibrary: | Do you ever offer rewards or privileges for students who make special effort to USE the vocab or new grammar? recycling rewards #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | ELTExperiences: | Does any1 get students to write three words that they have learnt during the day or week, put that in an envelope and then recycle. #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | sallyswinfen: | RT @KarenInGreece: When do you do most of your revision/recycling? Start of lesson? #ELTchat smt start, smt end, depends . Hi everyone ! |
| 9:13 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @rliberni: I think this is an area where students can do their own work and use online stuff #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | evab2001: | @springrose12 great, they are v useful #eltchat |
| 9:13 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ELTExperiences The ones you aimed at teaching them in prev. lesson. 10 enough, 20-30 for more lessons’ revision.100, er, no? #ELTChat |
| 9:13 pm | Marisa_C: | Project work is a natural way of recycling and good fun for learnrs if they like their project #ELTchat |
| 9:13 pm | evizac: | #ELTchat @Marisa_C T must be alert and revise bits and pieces whenever s/he gets the opportunity. |
| 9:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: Project work is a natural way of recycling and good fun for learnrs if they like their project #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @Fuertesun: Use the walls to scaffold previously taught lang and vocab #eltchat > posters? notes? projects? Gr8 idea! |
| 9:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @Marisa_C: RT @Fuertesun: Use the walls to scaffold previously taught lang and vocab #eltchat > posters? notes? projects? Gr8 idea! |
| 9:14 pm | vladkaslniecko: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgetting_curve Forgetting curve #ELTchat |
| 9:14 pm | evizac: | #ELTchat hello everybody trying to cope here |
| 9:15 pm | Marisa_C: | @ESLlibrary Warm praise is all they get and how very impressed I am with them! #ELTChat |
| 9:15 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @Marisa_C: Project work is a natural way of recycling and good fun for learnrs if they like their project #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | evab2001: | as a filler I list some words on board ask them 2 choose some and write a v short story or a meaningful paragraph #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | ELTExperiences: | Constant recycling is obviously useful – RT @vladkaslniecko: http://bit.ly/h2bdB4 Forgetting curve #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | @evizac Hi just try and follow a couple of threads it’s impossible to see everything #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | vladkaslniecko: | http://ligon.wcpss.net/dept/media/CurveofRemembering.pdf Remembering curve #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @evab2001: as a filler I list some words on board ask them 2 choose some and write a v short story or a meaningful paragraph #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | janetbianchini: | @evizac #ELTchat Yes, I agree with you. Whenever the opportunity arises – try to review in quick bursts |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTExperiences: Constant recycling is obviously useful – RT @vladkaslniecko: http://bit.ly/h2bdB4 Forgetting curve #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | cybraryman1: | My Vocabulary page has many fun activities http://tinyurl.com/yzclshf #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | KarenInGreece: | I sometimes use the homework students have handed in for revision #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @vladkaslniecko: http://ligon.wcpss.net/dept/media/CurveofRemembering.pdf Remembering curve #ELTchat |
| 9:15 pm | lolonagi: | our classes are just presentations the boom effect should happen at the beginning and at the end #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @evab2001: as a filler I list some words on board ask them 2 choose some and write a v short story or a meaningful paragraph #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: My Vocabulary page has many fun activities http://tinyurl.com/yzclshf #eltchat |
| 9:15 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat Online texts relevant to new vocab great but recycling grammar not so easy.. |
| 9:15 pm | evab2001: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @vladkaslniecko: @Marisa_C @cybraryman1 @lolonagi we also create students generated month vocab lists…all different and unique #ELTchat |
| 9:16 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ESLlibrary Recap is good and actively using them in oral activities. But these have to be repeated from time to time. #ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | rliberni: | @shaznosel I think that is probably more revision but important too #eltchat |
| 9:16 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ESLlibrary Recap is good and actively using them in oral activities. But these have to be repeated from time to time. #ELTChat |
| 9:16 pm | Marisa_C: | That remembering curve is very optimistic – best points are top middle and end of lesson I find #ELTchat – research confirms |
| 9:16 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Again diaries can help – revise and review..in a personal way -ss can draw/use L1 to personalise and recycle later |
| 9:17 pm | janetbianchini: | @evizac Hi – it’ll be fast but just try to relax and enjoy the experience and add when you can #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | Fuertesun: | @Marisa_C Plenary session at end good even with kids what did we learn today? #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @janetbianchini: @evizac Hi – it’ll be fast but just try to relax and enjoy the experience and add when you can #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Plenary session at end good even with kids what did we learn today? #ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | ELTExperiences: | I like to get sts to write three words and then distribute words to random students and get them to write a few sentenceS. #ELTChat |
| 9:17 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Online texts relevant to new vocab great but recycling grammar not so easy..#ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | SueannaN: | RT @ELTExperiences: I like to get sts to write three words and then distribute words to random students and get them to write a few sentenceS. #ELTChat |
| 9:17 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @cybraryman1: My Vocabulary page has many fun activities http://tinyurl.com/yzclshf #eltchat |
| 9:17 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat has anyone tried new vocab+old grammar and the other way around? |
| 9:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Online texts relevant to new vocab great but recycling grammar not so easy..#ELTchat |
| 9:17 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @JoshSRound: @juliachumphreys Hi Julia!! good to see you at #ELTchat (my colleague) ) > Hi Julia, Josh’s colleague! |
| 9:17 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @ELTExperiences: I like to get sts to write three words and then distribute words to random students and get them to write a few sentenceS. #ELTChat |
| 9:18 pm | SueannaN: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat has anyone tried new vocab+old grammar and the other way around? Yes it makes it much easier |
| 9:18 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Plenary session at end good even with kids what did we learn today? #ELTchat > Yes great |
| 9:18 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @Fuertesun: @Marisa_C Plenary session at end good even with kids what did we learn today? #ELTchat |
| 9:18 pm | rliberni: | RT @SueannaN: RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat has anyone tried new vocab+old grammar and the other way around? Yes it makes it much easier |
| 9:19 pm | janetbianchini: | I sometimes put words in hat for revision, ss pick one word upeach and order themselves in a quick story #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | vladkaslniecko: | http://vladimiramichalkova.edublogs.org/2010/12/10/whiteboard-game/ Whiteboard games. use them as warmer #eltchat can be topical or general |
| 9:19 pm | evab2001: | since last year I create word posters&display on the walls.they find them useful, sometimes they choose words from& play tictactoe #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: I sometimes put words in hat for revision, ss pick one word upeach and order themselves in a quick story #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | Fuertesun: | Vocab boxes great way to recycle vocab with YLs #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @evab2001: since last year I create word posters&display on the walls.they find them useful, sometimes they choose words from& play tictactoe #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @janetbianchini: I sometimes put words in hat for revision, ss pick one word upeach and order themselves in a quick story #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | rliberni: | RT @Fuertesun: Vocab boxes great way to recycle vocab with YLs #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | SueannaN: | RT @Fuertesun: Vocab boxes great way to recycle vocab with YLs #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | shaznosel: | @Marisa_C Great idea! First time I ve seen these! #eltchat |
| 9:19 pm | ELTExperiences: | What activities do you do to recycle vocab? I prefer back to the whiteboard and students have to explain to the one sitting. #ELTChat |
| 9:19 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @janetbianchini: I sometimes put words in hat for revision, ss pick one word upeach and order themselves in a quick story #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | juliachumphreys: | @JoshSRound Thanks, trying to keep up #ELTchat |
| 9:19 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @evab2001: since last year I create word posters&display on the walls.they find them useful, sometimes they choose words from& play tictactoe #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @SueAnnan yes, an I try to make grammar “threads” over a series of lessons if the grammar is difficult, voab. topics changing |
| 9:20 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @evab2001: since last year I create word posters&display on the walls.they find them useful, sometimes they choose words from& play tictactoe #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @SueAnnan yes, an I try to make grammar “threads” over a series of lessons if the grammar is difficult, voab. topics changing |
| 9:20 pm | JoshSRound: | How soon after teaching sth do you recycle it, what is best?? next day, a week later? #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ELTExperiences No, but sounds great! #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | KarenInGreece: | @ELTExperiences Yes good fun activity! #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | du_siemens: | Have you guys tried putting words on labels and placing them on your students’ backs? They have to mingle and explain the words. #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoshSRound: How soon after teaching sth do you recycle it, what is best?? next day, a week later? #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | SueannaN: | RT @JoshSRound: How soon after teaching sth do you recycle it, what is best?? next day, a week later? #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | juliachumphreys: | @ELTExperiences I do this too, or vocab on little cards and they have to describe to each other #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | evab2001: | http://www.teachingenglish.org.uk/blogs/evab2001/train-your-students-be-good-vocabulary-learnerspart-2 sth I wrote last week #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | janetbianchini: | Yes, a quick os & xs game whenever always fills the gap – they can choose words to review #ELTchat |
| 9:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: Have you guys tried putting words on labels and placing them on your students’ backs? They have to mingle and explain the words. #ELTChat |
| 9:20 pm | SueannaN: | RT @JoshSRound: How soon after teaching sth do you recycle it, what is best?? next day, a week later? #ELTchat all of the above |
| 9:20 pm | annabooklover: | RT @evab2001: since last year I create word posters&display on the walls.they find them useful, sometimes they choose words from& play tictactoe #eltchat |
| 9:20 pm | theteacherjames: | I like @englishraven‘s Word Wise vocab bank: http://bit.ly/9k3p8Z – Just three words/chunk per class! Sounds about right to me. #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | du_siemens: | @JoshSRound I do it in every class, especially for vocabulary. Makes wonders. #ELTChat |
| 9:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Yes, a quick os & xs game whenever always fills the gap – they can choose words to review #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @theteacherjames: I like @englishraven‘s Word Wise vocab bank: http://bit.ly/9k3p8Z – Just three words/chunk per class! Sounds about right to me. #eltchat |
| 9:21 pm | annabooklover: | We also play action charades to revise verbs and their objects #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | ESLlibrary: | Did you all see Karenne’s latest: What does it mean to “know” a word? http://tinyurl.com/49ymud5 #ELTChat |
| 9:21 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @JoshSRound check out the Remembering Curve I tweeted a while ago…it’s really nice, visual #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | cgoodey: | @JoshSRound According recent Pearson seminar from Norbert & Diane Schmitt – recycle very soon after introducing new vocab #ELTchat |
| 9:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @cgoodey: @JoshSRound According recent Pearson seminar from Norbert & Diane Schmitt – recycle very soon after introducing new vocab #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | Marisa_C: | @du_siemens I love this activity – with YLs postits stuck on their foreheads #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | RT @ESLlibrary: Did you all see Karenne’s latest: What does it mean to “know” a word? http://tinyurl.com/49ymud5 #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | JoshSRound: | @vladkaslniecko Thanks will check later #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | janetbianchini: | @du_siemens Yes, that’s a great activity! Try putting sticky labels on ss’ foreheads and they have to guess word via descriptions #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @du_siemens I love this activity – with YLs postits stuck on their foreheads #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | Fuertesun: | Flyswatter and flashcards are a great way to recycle vocab with YLs #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | ELTmethods: | @theteacherjames @ELTExperiences #eltchat yes, to make it more relevant for our learners – to get away from the course book. |
| 9:22 pm | du_siemens: | @Marisa_C That’s just amazing, isn’t it Marisa? I consistently do it with my students, especially higher levels… #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | lolonagi: | @janetbianchini what about writing the words in the blanks and then form a senntence on that word if they took the blank? #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @annabooklover: We also play action charades to revise verbs and their objects #ELTchat |
| 9:22 pm | evab2001: | @JoshSRound I think as much as possible. I belive we do most of the work they sit and wait to be spoonfed #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | ELTExperiences: | @DinaDobrou it’s a 45-60 minute activity in itself. Dictogloss is also useful if you include vocab in it. #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | rliberni: | @Marisa_C I did this with my last group too (a group of university lecturers they loved it!) #eltchat |
| 9:22 pm | du_siemens: | @janetbianchini They benefit a lot from this activity. #ELTChat |
| 9:22 pm | JoshSRound: | @cgoodey agree, instinctively it feels v imp to recycle v soon after #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @waykatewit yes, it can be fewer of course…some words can be learnt after the first exposure…depends on ….#ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTExperiences: @DinaDobrou it’s a 45-60 minute activity in itself. Dictogloss is also useful if you include vocab in it. #ELTChat |
| 9:23 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @ I’m sure recycling is not the same as revision… |
| 9:23 pm | evab2001: | RT @cgoodey: @JoshSRound According recent Pearson seminar from Norbert & Diane Schmitt – recycle very soon after introducing new vocab #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | annabooklover: | RT @du_siemens: Have you guys tried putting words on labels and placing them on your students’ backs? They have to mingle and explain the words. #ELTChat |
| 9:23 pm | evab2001: | RT @ESLlibrary: Did you all see Karenne’s latest: What does it mean to “know” a word? http://tinyurl.com/49ymud5 #ELTChat |
| 9:23 pm | evizac: | #ELTchat@shaznosel:recycling grammar not so easy??? it is if you simplify it. play games with grammar eg. http://www.eslflow.com/games1.html |
| 9:23 pm | evab2001: | RT @annabooklover: We also play action charades to revise verbs and their objects #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | janetbianchini: | @Marisa_C Post -its on foreheads always works well with adults! They think it’s hilarious and they learn at same time! #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @waykatewit …intensity of exposure and personal involvment of a learner #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | JoshSRound: | @evab2001 yep, got to get ss doing majority of work!! #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | KarenInGreece: | Does anyone revisit reading texts they have taught? Are there benefits to this? #ELTchat |
| 9:23 pm | du_siemens: | Other great activities that can be used as warmers are wordsearches and criss-crosses.I usually do competition. www.puzzlemaker.com #ELTChat |
| 9:24 pm | evab2001: | RT @theteacherjames: I like @englishraven‘s Word Wise vocab bank: http://bit.ly/9k3p8Z – Just three words/chunk per class! Sounds about right to me. #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | rliberni: | @waykatewit no they are different but in some ways have the same effect #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: Other great activities that can be used as warmers are wordsearches and criss-crosses.I usually do competition. www.puzzlemaker.com #ELTChat |
| 9:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoshSRound: @evab2001 yep, got to get ss doing majority of work!! #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | lolonagi: | @annabooklover action charades? #eltchat |
| 9:24 pm | Marisa_C: | @janetbianchini they do ! i love post its – we use them to label parts of the body too – good laugh #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat Learning new vocab should be with production in mind, so the opportunity to recycle should come naturally. Easy to forget though! |
| 9:24 pm | Fuertesun: | @janetbianchini #ELTchatI have a jester hat with velcro and wordcards for kids #ELTchat |
| 9:24 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat used o s and x’s today to review none/neither/both etc – manic class but hope they’ll remember! |
| 9:25 pm | du_siemens: | @KarenInGreece I’ve never done that. What I do know, depending on my aim, is to ask them what they remember from that text. #ELTChat |
| 9:25 pm | evab2001: | RT @Fuertesun: Vocab boxes great way to recycle vocab with YLs #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | du_siemens: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Learning new vocab should be with production in mind, so the opportunity to recycle should come naturally. Easy to forget though! |
| 9:25 pm | rliberni: | @KarenInGreece in class sometimes online often I think stds find different things each time #eltchat |
| 9:25 pm | janetbianchini: | The Ultimate Word Search Maker is good -get ss to make their own word searches for review purposes next lesson #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @rliberni to me, recycling always deals with putting the old material into new contexts 4 the sake of 1. memoriz., 2 activation |
| 9:25 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @janetbianchini: The Ultimate Word Search Maker is good -get ss to make their own word searches for review purposes next lesson #ELTchat |
| 9:25 pm | du_siemens: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @rliberni to me, recycling always deals with putting the old material into new contexts 4 the sake of 1. memoriz., 2 activation |
| 9:26 pm | picswordswisdom: | @KarenInGreece Yes! Conversations get richer with each revisit. #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | du_siemens: | @waykatewit Very well put, I’d say. #ELTChat |
| 9:26 pm | SueannaN: | RT @ELTExperiences: RT @janetbianchini: The Ultimate Word Search Maker is good -get ss to make their own word searches for review purposes next lesson #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | Fuertesun: | @janetbianchini Hi does anyone think that wsearches are not very Hots? #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @Fuertesun: Vocab boxes great way to recycle vocab with YLs #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | DinaDobrou: | @shaznosel Seems like you had fun Sharon! If they did too, I’m sure they’ll remember! #ELTChat |
| 9:26 pm | KarenInGreece: | Lots of useful activities. Crosswords, vocab Os and Xs, phrasal verb bingo, back-to-board vocab, pelmanism, miming #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | rliberni: | @ELTExperiences yes, so recycling should be ongoing revision less frequent? #eltchat |
| 9:26 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @Fuertesun #ELTchat I have a jester hat with velcro and wordcards for kids #ELTchat That sounds like fun! |
| 9:26 pm | Fuertesun: | @KarenInGreece Love pelmanism games #ELTchat |
| 9:26 pm | du_siemens: | @Fuertesun I love them and so do my ss. It depends on how you approach them, though. Have you tried making it into a competition? #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Fuertesun @janetbianchini hmmm…wordsearches are nice sometimes but i find them too time consuming usually #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @du_siemens: RT @waykatewit: @rliberni to me, recycling always deals w putting the old material into new contexts >this is key #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | KarenInGreece: | @du_siemens Yes sometimes I do the same, but I wonder if more could be done. #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | janetbianchini: | @Fuertesun I think if student created they work very well! #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens I just think they are a bit lower order ??? not sure #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | rliberni: | Do stds resist recycling at all? #eltchat |
| 9:27 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @JoshSRound: RT @du_siemens: RT @waykatewit: @rliberni to me, recycling always deals w putting the old material into new contexts >this is key #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @KarenInGreece: Lots of useful activities. Crosswords, vocab Os and Xs, phrasal verb bingo, back-to-board vocab, pelmanism, miming #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | Fuertesun: | @janetbianchini yes they go more distance that way #ELTchat |
| 9:27 pm | du_siemens: | @KarenInGreece Are you familiar with www.puzzlemaker.com? If you aren’t, you should because it’s really nice. #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | ELTExperiences: | @rliberni should a little or often be more useful than a lot during a little time. #ELTChat |
| 9:27 pm | DinaDobrou: | I love the naughts and crosses game. Works with grammar, vocabulary, functions, everything! #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @DinaDobrou: I love the naughts and crosses game. Works with grammar, vocabulary, functions, everything! #ELTChat – me too |
| 9:28 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Fuertesun @janetbianchini i prefer something more dynamic, active and engaging for revision ) #ELTchat |
| 9:28 pm | KarenInGreece: | @rliberni Thanks for reply. So it seems useful and worthwhile then. #ELTchat |
| 9:28 pm | du_siemens: | @Fuertesun Don’t quite agree. Again, I think it has to do with how the teacher approaches them. #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @JoshSRound @du_siemens @rliberni with vocab. especially it is also re-classifying. Love working creatively with wordlists |
| 9:28 pm | theteacherjames: | @rliberni #eltchat Like anything, I think it depends on how it’s done. |
| 9:28 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens just me! #ELTChat |
| 9:28 pm | rliberni: | @ELTExperiences I’m a big fan of little and often which is where I think mobile phones can e great #eltchat |
| 9:28 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ELTExperiences @rliberni I find it is. It doesn’t overwhelm sts. #ELTChat |
| 9:29 pm | janetbianchini: | @ELTExperiences Yes, I believe a little often is better than a lot during a little time, but depends on level #ELTchat |
| 9:29 pm | ELTExperiences: | Get students to make a crossword together and then use it for other learners. It might be useful. #ELTChat |
| 9:29 pm | Fuertesun: | I like to play a game with newly taught vocab it starts with V and ends with y for example good with kids #eltchat |
| 9:29 pm | du_siemens: | ?Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.? I think we have to engage our students. #ELTChat |
| 9:29 pm | SueannaN: | I think we have to consider sts learning preferences too #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @ELTExperiences @rliberni yes, but there will be days you’ll want to recyle from a month’s period or longer – lots as a final |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | Like any skill the more frequently you practise the better u get (if the practice is effective!) #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | JoshSRound: | Find new meaningful contexts 2 recycle recently taught items; also opport 2 revisit lang learnt in prev wks; enc ss to reflect back #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | KarenInGreece: | @du_siemens Yes I have and I think it’s great!I’ve made some great communicative crosswords with it.Speaking + vocab review in 1! #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @SueAnnan good point, Sue #ELTchat students generated activities = personal involvement #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | ESLlibrary: | We featured @Fuertesun‘s “Recycling Vocab in Primary ELT” post a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/4czdx45 #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @JoshSRound: Find new meaningful contexts 2 recycle recently taught items; also opport 2 revisit lang learnt in prev wks; enc ss to reflect back #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @du_siemens: ?Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.? we have to engage students. #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @rliberni: @ELTExperiences I’m a big fan of little and often which is where I think mobile phones can e great #eltchat |
| 9:30 pm | rliberni: | RT @ESLlibrary: We featured @Fuertesun‘s “Recycling Vocab in Primary ELT” post a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/4czdx45 #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | Fuertesun: | @ESLlibrary thank you very mucho! #ELTChat |
| 9:30 pm | janetbianchini: | Get your students to create cartoons as fun review activities. Stick them onto class blog or wiki -or Glogster for everyone to view #ELTchat |
| 9:30 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@du_siemens and this will have a lot to do with peer revision/recycling |
| 9:30 pm | du_siemens: | Another thing which works perfectly is to have your students design their own memory game. They put words x definitions and play. #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | du_siemens: | @KarenInGreece I have lots of them. I always save them in order to save time. #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @ESLlibrary: We featured @Fuertesun‘s “Recycling Vocab in Primary ELT” post a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/4czdx45 #ELTChat |
| 9:31 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @janetbianchini: Get your students to create cartoons as fun review activities. Stick them onto class blog or wiki -or Glogster for everyone to view #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | lolonagi: | RT @rliberni: Do stds resist recycling at all? #eltchat > we should not make them feel we are doing that |
| 9:31 pm | juliachumphreys: | @SueAnnan Definitely, but difficult in a larger class #ELTchat |
| 9:31 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat when does recycling cross the line with testing? i.e. revise for this test….etc etc as we have to do in Greece? |
| 9:32 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @du_siemens: Another thing which works perfectly is to have your students design their own memory game. They put words x definitions and play. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@JoshSRound absolutely – smtms months back there’s the s.called delayed review – works with long-term memory |
| 9:32 pm | SueannaN: | RT @juliachumphreys: @SueAnnan Definitely, but difficult in a larger class #ELTchat why? |
| 9:32 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @JoshSRound: Find new meaningful contexts 2 recycle recently taught items; also opport 2 revisit lang learnt in prev wks; enc ss to reflect back #ELTchat |
| 9:32 pm | ELTExperiences: | I’ve remembered that I use a corpus gap fill activity to recycle vocabulary and select about three words for that. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | @waykatewit I think you can recycle from any time I think language learning can’t be linear really more of a web #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTExperiences: I’ve remembered that I use a corpus gap fill activity to recycle vocabulary and select about three words for that. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | ESLlibrary: | @Fuertesun Love the Vocabulary Box. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | Fuertesun: | Give advanced students four words that they have to use correctly in a sentence that demos meaning today we had perks and range #eltchat |
| 9:32 pm | evab2001: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @du_siemens: ?Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.? we have to engage students. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | du_siemens: | @ELTExperiences Just like a Cambridge Exam question, isn’t it? We talked a little bit about it this morning. #ELTChat |
| 9:32 pm | janetbianchini: | @lolonagi I think students like recycling games and activities if not overdone #ELTchat |
| 9:32 pm | vladkaslniecko: | i think i mentioned it earlier but Vocabox works perfect in class and u build it all the time #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | evab2001: | RT @ESLlibrary: We featured @Fuertesun‘s “Recycling Vocab in Primary ELT” post a few weeks ago: http://tinyurl.com/4czdx45 #ELTChat |
| 9:33 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @DinaDobrou @du_siemens which means recycling unlike revision will mean active use (more than word games – discourses) |
| 9:33 pm | DinaDobrou: | @shaznosel Good question! Would they do it if we told them “revise for a language game”? #ELTChat |
| 9:33 pm | du_siemens: | @ELTmethods … and it surely fosters lots of speaking. #ELTChat |
| 9:33 pm | Fuertesun: | @ESLlibrary Kids do too! #ELTChat |
| 9:33 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: @lolonagi I think students like recycling games and activities if not overdone #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @vladkaslniecko: i think i mentioned it earlier but Vocabox works perfect in class and u build it all the time #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: @shaznosel Good question! Would they do it if we told them “revise for a language game”? #ELTChat |
| 9:33 pm | ELTExperiences: | @du_siemens was the #ELTChat discussion about corpus this afternoon? I missed that. |
| 9:33 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @rliberni: @waykatewit I think u can recycle from any time I think language learning cant be linear really more of a web> agree #ELTchat |
| 9:33 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@rliberni sure |
| 9:33 pm | du_siemens: | @ELTExperiences Nope, about exam classes… #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | waykatewit: | RT @JoshSRound: Find new meaningful contexts 2 recycle recently taught items; also opport 2 revisit lang learnt in prev wks; enc ss to reflect back #ELTchat |
| 9:34 pm | ELTExperiences: | @du_siemens i guess it is. #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | rliberni: | RT @SueAnnan: If we use old language with new structures, the students shouldn’t recognise the recycling TRUE #ELTchat |
| 9:34 pm | DinaDobrou: | @waykatewit @du_siemens Good point! #ELTChat |
| 9:34 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @SueAnnan: If we use old language with new structures, the students shouldn’t recognise the recycling #ELTchat |
| 9:34 pm | du_siemens: | Not only do I try to revise vocabulary from the previous class… but vocabulary from all the classes we’ve had. #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@JoshSRound @rliberni has anyone spoken about long- and short-term memory?? Important! |
| 9:35 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @du_siemens: Not only do I try to revise vocabulary from the previous class… but vocabulary from all the classes we’ve had. #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | GlogsterEDU: | RT @janetbianchini: Get your students to create cartoons as fun review activities. Stick them onto class blog or wiki -or Glogster for everyone to view #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | BenevolentBaron: | RT @ESLlibrary: Did you all see Karenne’s latest: What does it mean to “know” a word? http://tinyurl.com/49ymud5 #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens That’s weher a vocab box or bag comes in handy #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | janetbianchini: | Sometimes get students to create their own warmers as review – empower them to take control of how they like to remember words #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | DinaDobrou: | @du_siemens How much time do you devote to it? #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | du_siemens: | @Fuertesun I have both in my classroom. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 9:35 pm | SueannaN: | RT @janetbianchini: Sometimes get students to create their own warmers as review – empower them to take control of how they like to remember words #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @janetbianchini: Sometimes get students to create their own warmers as review – empower them to take control of how they like to remember words #ELTchat |
| 9:35 pm | rliberni: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat@JoshSRound @rliberni has anyone spoken about long- and short-term memory?? Important! not yet – shoot! |
| 9:35 pm | du_siemens: | @DinaDobrou Five minutes? I usually do it as a warmer… #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | lolonagi: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat@JoshSRound @rliberni has anyone spoken about long- and short-term memory?? Important!>agree |
| 9:36 pm | ESLlibrary: | Seems some here are concerned about distinguishing between “revision” and “recycling” activities. #ELTchat Anyone care 2 define the two? |
| 9:36 pm | KarenInGreece: | @Fuertesun Yes good idea, I do the same with my students. Sometimes play games based on that too. #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | juliachumphreys: | @SueAnnan Diff learning preferences – some Ss love back2board,others find it too fast&prefer written exercises. Mix is key I guess! #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@janetbianchini @lolonagi could we make recycling interwoven into lesson naturally, rather than a separate stage? won’t resist then |
| 9:36 pm | DinaDobrou: | @waykatewit @rliberni @JoshSRound And what about active vs passive vocab? #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | tasoulazac: | @du_siemens good idea! #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | JoshSRound: | @janetbianchini getting ss to create own warmers – nice idea – how successful usually? #ELTchat |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat@janetbianchini @lolonagi could we make recycling interwoven into lesson naturally, rather than a separate stage? won’t resist then |
| 9:36 pm | du_siemens: | I have a list with great activities 2 revise vocab. If anyone is willing to have a look at it, please DM me and then I’ll send it. #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | ELTExperiences: | A good recycling activity – RT @chrissspeck: Ten good homework tasks to set.: http://t.co/ezZIcXN #ELTChat |
| 9:36 pm | Fuertesun: | @ayatawel yes use the #elt chat hashtag #eltchat |
| 9:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: I have a list with great activities 2 revise vocab. If anyone is willing to have a look at it, please DM me and then I’ll send it. #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens #eltchat Have you ever found that overwhelming? It must be a lot of language to keep in mind. |
| 9:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTExperiences: A good recycling activity – RT @chrissspeck: Ten good homework tasks to set.: http://t.co/ezZIcXN #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | annabooklover: | @du_siemens Thanks for the link Eduardo! I just made my Flying wordsearch #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | DinaDobrou: | @du_siemens 5 mins if you recycle all lessons? In what way? #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Don’t think so and I have 10 groups. #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | KarenInGreece: | @ELTmethods @du_siemens I agree – great communicative acitivity! 2 for the price of one #ELTchat |
| 9:37 pm | SueannaN: | RT @ELTExperiences: A good recycling activity – RT @chrissspeck: Ten good homework tasks to set.: http://t.co/ezZIcXN #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | du_siemens: | @annabooklover Isn’t that amazing? #ELTChat |
| 9:37 pm | taskmagic: | #ELTChat TaskMagic is a commercial product, but really good for LOADS of vocab practice. Lots of info on the website: http://bit.ly/heeohe |
| 9:37 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@JoshSRound @rliberni inherent, integral part of every lesson, not just a stage I believe |
| 9:37 pm | evizac: | @DinaDobrou @shaznosel Would they do it if “revise for a language game”? #ELTChat they would it for a contest. make it a big deal. |
| 9:38 pm | janetbianchini: | @JoshSRound Have done it on occasions as sth different, and it has generally worked well – done with a bit of prep eg ideas etc #ELTchat |
| 9:38 pm | du_siemens: | @DinaDobrou Nope. In my opinion you cannot expect them to remember everything. Choose the words which will me meaningful to them. #ELTChat |
| 9:38 pm | shaznosel: | #eltchat Ss love it when you stick a post it note on their forehead and have to ask questions.what am i style |
| 9:38 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@DinaDobrou @rliberni @JoshSRound yes, 1 aim of recycling is really to activate the passively retained words |
| 9:39 pm | ELTmethods: | RT @ELTExperiences: A good recycling activity – RT @chrissspeck: Ten good homework tasks to set.: http://t.co/ezZIcXN #ELTChat |
| 9:39 pm | ESLlibrary: | RT @JoshSRound: @janetbianchini getting ss to create own warmers – nice idea – how successful usually? #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | JoshSRound: | @janetbianchini sounds good, to break the routine #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | theteacherjames: | I think, in general, there is too much emphasis on vocab. Does recycling too much add to this and subtract from other areas? #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ESLlibrary Hmm..revision like “reminding” them & recycling “getting them to use it”? Revision is sth they do on their own too #ELTChat |
| 9:39 pm | Fuertesun: | @shaznosel yes and for verbs the game where you have to give clues like ” you do it with no clothes on and it involves water” #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | SueannaN: | @juliachumphreys yes you have to negotiate with the class #ELTchat |
| 9:39 pm | waykatewit: | RT @DinaDobrou: @waykatewit @rliberni @JoshSRound And what about active vs passive vocab? #ELTChat |
| 9:39 pm | ELTExperiences: | So when is the best time to recycle vocabulary? First lesson or at the end of class? #ELTChat |
| 9:39 pm | du_siemens: | RT @theteacherjames: I think, in general, there is too much emphasis on vocab. Does recycling too much add to this and subtract from other areas? #eltchat |
| 9:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ESLlibrary Hmm..revision like “reminding” them & recycling “getting them to use it”? Revision is sth they do on their own too #ELTChat |
| 9:39 pm | evizac: | #ELTChat @DinaDobrou @shaznoselwe have a bingo contest every month with the vocabulary taught. They are always enthusiastic about it. |
| 9:39 pm | rliberni: | RT @Fuertesun: @shaznosel yes and for verbs the game where you have to give clues like ” you do it with no clothes on and it involves water” #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | janetbianchini: | Help! I think “Mini Max” contains a lot of ideas, but not sure if this is right title?? #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | du_siemens: | @ELTExperiences I think whenever you feel like it. I usually do it as a warmer in every class. #ELTChat |
| 9:40 pm | Fuertesun: | @theteacherjames vocab the meat or the bones? #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | annabooklover: | @lolonagi Action charades are flashcards with actions which the students mime. Whoever gets the most right wins! #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | JoshSRound: | @waykatewit @DinaDobrou @rliberni @JoshSRound avtive vs passive vocab – good to raise ss awareness of disctinction #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @Fuertesun: @shaznosel yes and for verbs the game where you have to give clues like ” you do it with no clothes on and it involves water” #eltchat |
| 9:40 pm | waykatewit: | RT @JoshSRound: @janetbianchini getting ss to create own warmers – nice idea – how successful usually? #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | cioccas: | @theteacherjames Yes, think recycling should be about more than just vocab #ELTchat |
| 9:40 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ESLlibrary Hmm..revision like “reminding” them & recycling “getting them to use it”? Revision is sth they do on their own too #ELTChat |
| 9:41 pm | Fuertesun: | @cioccas yes we need to recycle grammar and skills and pron etc #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | rliberni: | RT @cioccas: @theteacherjames Yes, think recycling should be about more than just vocab #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | janetbianchini: | Quick dominoes revision game are also nice #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | du_siemens: | @KarenInGreece I’ve just sent it to you. #ELTChat |
| 9:41 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @Fuertesun: @cioccas yes we need to recycle grammar and skills and pron etc #ELTchat |
| 9:41 pm | cioccas: | RT @Fuertesun: yes we need to recycle grammar and skills and pron etc #ELTchat <Def. agree! |
| 9:41 pm | theteacherjames: | @cioccas #eltchat Yes, I was wondering how people recycle skills and techniques. |
| 9:41 pm | ELTExperiences: | @cioccas @theteacherjames perhaps recycling grammar structures and lexical phrases might be a good idea to focus on as well. #ELTChat |
| 9:42 pm | theteacherjames: | @Fuertesun #eltchat Good question – need to think about that! |
| 9:42 pm | KarenInGreece: | @janetbianchini Do you mean ‘minimax teacher’ the book? #ELTchat |
| 9:42 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTExperiences: @cioccas @theteacherjames perhaps recycling grammar structures and lexical phrases might be a good idea to focus on as well. #ELTChat |
| 9:42 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @JoshSRound: RT @Fuertesun: @cioccas yes we need to recycle grammar and skills and pron etc >> keeps us on our toes!! #ELTchat |
| 9:42 pm | ELTmethods: | @ELTExperiences #eltchat rather at the end – they must know it first before being able to recycle and revise. |
| 9:42 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @theteacherjames AGREE!! grammar is more challenging and more necessaty to recycle |
| 9:42 pm | cioccas: | RT @theteacherjames: #eltchat Yes, I was wondering how people recycle skills and techniques. < That’s what I’m here to learn about today |
| 9:42 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames By doing them over & over again… u cant recycle a reading technique if u’re not teaching reading in that lesson. #ELTChat |
| 9:42 pm | rliberni: | RT @ELTmethods: @ELTExperiences #eltchat rather at the end – they must know it first before being able to recycle and revise. |
| 9:42 pm | cioccas: | RT @ELTmethods: @ELTExperiences #eltchat rather at the end – they must know it first before being able to recycle and revise. |
| 9:42 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @shaznosel: #eltchat Ss love it when u stick a postit note on their forehead & have to ask Qs.what am i style>Woohoo! gonna try it 2moro! |
| 9:42 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: @theteacherjames By doing them over & over again… u cant recycle a reading technique if u’re not teaching reading in that lesson. #ELTChat |
| 9:43 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens yes recycle skills by teaching them in your lessons #ELTChat |
| 9:43 pm | ELTExperiences: | @ELTmethods unless it was something that was looked at the previous day. Interesting contribution though. #ELTChat |
| 9:43 pm | lolonagi: | RT @cioccas: @theteacherjames Yes, think recycling should be about more than just vocab #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | evab2001: | RT @du_siemens: I have a list with great activities 2 revise vocab. If anyone is willing to have a look at it, please DM me and then I’ll send it. #ELTChat |
| 9:43 pm | juliachumphreys: | @Fuertesun @cioccas yes we need to recycle grammar and skills and pron etc #ELTchat <– definitely agree! |
| 9:43 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @ELTExperiences I think – any time is good as long as the recycling fits logically into the lesson |
| 9:43 pm | KarenInGreece: | How do you recycle/review structure? #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @evizac: #ELTChat @DinaDobrou @shaznoselwe have a bingo contest every month with the vocabulary taught. They are always enthusiastic about it. |
| 9:43 pm | sandymillin: | @juliachumphreys Glad to see you joining in with #ELTchat – hope you’re enjoying it! |
| 9:43 pm | rliberni: | @cioccas I think these are practised and the content is recycled? #eltchat |
| 9:43 pm | lolonagi: | RT @janetbianchini: Quick dominoes revision game are also nice #ELTchat how would it be ? many Qs |
| 9:43 pm | janetbianchini: | Vocabulary Games and Activities contains lots of great activities http://tinyurl.com/5uygl29 #ELTchat |
| 9:43 pm | ELTExperiences: | Well said – RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @ELTExperiences I think – any time is good as long as the recycling fits logically into the lesson |
| 9:43 pm | du_siemens: | Interesting websites: http://bit.ly/i9NT4o, http://bit.ly/hrgh4X… #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Vocabulary Games and Activities contains lots of great activities http://tinyurl.com/5uygl29 I love these! #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | Fuertesun: | @sandymillin three in a line good for structure #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | JoshSRound: | Need to get ss to reflect on the how & the why when focussing on sub-skills for read-list-speak-writing; that is what 2 recycle imo #ELTchat |
| 9:44 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: Interesting websites: http://bit.ly/i9NT4o, http://bit.ly/hrgh4X… #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | du_siemens: | @Fuertesun Doesn’t it make more sense? #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@DinaDobrou @ESLlibrary rather, revision – reminding + same context + passive, recycling – new context + active + cognitive |
| 9:44 pm | SueannaN: | RT @janetbianchini: Vocabulary Games and Activities contains lots of great activities http://tinyurl.com/5uygl29 #ELTchat Good book |
| 9:44 pm | waykatewit: | RT @DinaDobrou: @ESLlibrary Hmm..revision like “reminding” them & recycling “getting them to use it”? Revision is sth they do on their own too #ELTChat |
| 9:44 pm | rliberni: | RT @SueannaN: RT @janetbianchini: Vocabulary Games and Activities contains lots of great activities http://tinyurl.com/5uygl29 #ELTchat Good book |
| 9:44 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @SueannaN: RT @janetbianchini: Vocabulary Games and Activities contains lots of great activities http://tinyurl.com/5uygl29 #ELTchat Good book |
| 9:44 pm | taskmagic: | MFL teachers – tonight’s #ELTChat about recycling vocab, grammar, skills etc completely transferable to MFL? (cont) http://deck.ly/~S4iyx |
| 9:44 pm | theteacherjames: | #eltchat I used to teach read & write classes, and I had to ‘recycle’ reading skills many times. Takes a lot more work I think. |
| 9:45 pm | janetbianchini: | @KarenInGreece Yes, thanks! That’s the one! #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | sandymillin: | @vladkaslniecko My post about using vocab boxes and variants thereof http://wp.me/p18yiK-1d #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @sandymillin: @vladkaslniecko My post about using vocab boxes and variants thereof http://wp.me/p18yiK-1d #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | cioccas: | @rliberni Yes, recycling content can aid listening and/or reading – support Ss weaker skills #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @vladkaslniecko My post about using vocab boxes and variants thereof http://wp.me/p18yiK-1d #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @sandymillin: @vladkaslniecko My post about using vocab boxes and variants thereof http://wp.me/p18yiK-1d #ELTchat |
| 9:45 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat@DinaDobrou @ESLlibrary rather, revision – reminding + same context + passive, recycling – new context + active + cognitive |
| 9:45 pm | shaznosel: | @DinaDobrou #eltchat great fun if you put the funniest/weirdest on the class joker.know it all…great for mixed ability classes. |
| 9:46 pm | theteacherjames: | @KarenInGreece #eltchat Initial exposure has to be just right so they understand the purpose, then repeated practice. |
| 9:46 pm | KarenInGreece: | Can someone please explain the dominoes activity to me? #ELTchat |
| 9:46 pm | du_siemens: | I don’t see how we can work on Readi. Strategies if we r having a List. Class. 2 recycle skills, teach them when the time comes. #ELTChat |
| 9:46 pm | lolonagi: | RT @KarenInGreece: Can someone please explain the dominos activitiy to me? #ELTchat>agree |
| 9:46 pm | tasoulazac: | RT @cioccas: @rliberni Yes, recycling content can aid listening and/or reading – support Ss weaker skills #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | Fuertesun: | I have a question box for recycling language filled with q’s taken from the coursebook directly #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | evab2001: | RT @ELTExperiences: Well said – RT @waykatewit: #ELTchat @ELTExperiences I think – any time is good as long as the recycling fits logically into the lesson |
| 9:46 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@JoshSRound yes, one way – great idea |
| 9:46 pm | KarenInGreece: | @janetbianchini Very good, useful book! #ELTchat |
| 9:46 pm | lolonagi: | RT @Fuertesun: I have a question box for recycling language filled with q’s taken from the coursebook directly #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | sandymillin: | Only time all SS in Level 7 class did HW was whn I asked them to make vocab puzzles based on old vocab 2 test peers. They loved it! #eltchat |
| 9:46 pm | rliberni: | How do we explain the importance of recycling to more autonomous learners? #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @tasoulazac: RT @cioccas: @rliberni Yes, recycling content can aid listening and/or reading – support Ss weaker skills #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | cioccas: | RT @rliberni: How do we explain the importance of recycling to more autonomous learners? #eltchat |
| 9:47 pm | sandymillin: | @du_siemens I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. you need to start blogging #ELTChat |
| 9:47 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @du_siemens: I don’t see how we can work on Readi. Strategies if we r having a List. Class. 2 recycle skills, teach them when the time comes. #ELTChat |
| 9:47 pm | ESLlibrary: | Some ideas here: 7 tricks to help remember new words quickly and easily: http://tinyurl.com/4n8zpw6 #ELTChat |
| 9:47 pm | KarenInGreece: | @theteacherjames With repeated practice, do you mean controlled written exercises? #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | evab2001: | RT @sandymillin: @vladkaslniecko My post about using vocab boxes and variants thereof http://wp.me/p18yiK-1d #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | JoshSRound: | @cioccas: Need to get ss to reflect on the how & the why when focussing on sub-skills for read-list-speak-writing #ELTchat |
| 9:47 pm | rliberni: | RT @sandymillin: @du_siemens I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. you need to start blogging Hear hear!#ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | janetbianchini: | For review of structures you could do “Stems” eg I shout out a beginning stem of a structure, ss have to write 2nd part down – #ELTchat |
| 9:48 pm | ELTExperiences: | Is a good way for sts to recycle vocab autonomously is for them to keep a vocab book. Learner training in a way. #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @ESLlibrary: Some ideas here: 7 tricks to help remember new words quickly and easily: http://tinyurl.com/4n8zpw6 #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | Fuertesun: | @rliberni aren’t they the ones that know the importance already? #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: For review of structures you could do “Stems” eg I shout out a beginning stem of a structure, ss have to write 2nd part down – #ELTchat |
| 9:48 pm | du_siemens: | @sandymillin Too coward to start a blog. I’ve been teaching for only 3 years and a half… I’m the one who should be reading blogs. #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | ELTmethods: | @KarenInGreece #eltchat move from easy to more demanding. change the context. let them act and produce. |
| 9:48 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ayatawel Are you trying to join #ELTChat? If so, YES, we can see you! |
| 9:48 pm | sandymillin: | @du_siemens I’ve only been teaching for 2 and a half and you have loads of ideas. If CELTA trainees can blog, you can 2! #ELTChat |
| 9:48 pm | rliberni: | @Fuertesun not necessarily often it’s onwards and upwards! #eltchat |
| 9:48 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@cioccas @rliberni we re-visit same list/read next lesson, diff. purpose (discussion, eg) – good integrated recycl. + mixed abil. |
| 9:48 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @ESLlibrary: Some ideas here: 7 tricks to help remember new words quickly and easily: http://tinyurl.com/4n8zpw6 #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | du_siemens: | @sandymillin I’m willing to take the ICELT later this year. Quite afraid, though. RS. #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | sandymillin: | @ELTExperiences Whenever you have a few minutes. Whenever it fits in the lesson. While doing other things! #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | evab2001: | lots of useful links and ideas coming, thnx. have 2 go now. looking forward 2 the summary #eltchat |
| 9:49 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @ESLlibrary: Some ideas here: 7 tricks to help remember new words quickly and easily: http://tinyurl.com/4n8zpw6 #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @sandymillin @du_siemens I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. you need to start blogging #ELTChat – I told him that too!! |
| 9:49 pm | sandymillin: | @du_siemens I think you’ll be fine! #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | du_siemens: | @evab2001 Bye bye #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens Time not important some people been doing same thing for 10 years! #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | vladkaslniecko: | ooou, something with my internet connection,sorry folks .#ELTchat |
| 9:49 pm | ESLlibrary: | @waykatewit @DinaDobrou Nice! I think the main point is the “new context”. Reviewing in a new way without them realizing? #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | lisamonthie: | great resource! RT @du_siemens: Interesting websites: http://bit.ly/i9NT4o, http://bit.ly/hrgh4X… #ELTChat |
| 9:49 pm | du_siemens: | @sandymillin @theteacherjames Come on, guys… you’re lovely. #ELTChat |
| 9:50 pm | rliberni: | RT @ESLlibrary: @waykatewit @DinaDobrou Nice! I think the main point is the “new context”. Reviewing in a new way without them realizing? #ELTChat |
| 9:50 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou we want a report! #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | du_siemens: | @Fuertesun Yes. I think it’s a matter of effort, right? #ELTChat |
| 9:50 pm | janetbianchini: | @du_siemens Really you should start a blog!! – it will change you, and your students will love it #ELTchat |
| 9:50 pm | cioccas: | RT @Fuertesun: @du_siemens Time not important some people been doing same thing for 10 years! #ELTChat <Agree! |
| 9:50 pm | DinaDobrou: | @rliberni Why wouldn’t autonomous learners understand its importance? #ELTChat |
| 9:50 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @cioccas: @JoshSRound And the reflection on how and why can be a recycling actrivity in itself! Absolutely ) #ELTchat |
| 9:50 pm | shaznosel: | RT @theteacherjames: I think, in general, there is too much emphasis on vocab. Does recycling too much add to this and subtract from other areas? #eltchat |
| 9:50 pm | theteacherjames: | @KarenInGreece #ELTChat Depends on the skill, but could do. It’s got to be connected to your main target output, whether speaking or writing |
| 9:50 pm | KarenInGreece: | @ELTmethods Thanks for the good ideas #ELTchat |
| 9:50 pm | ELTExperiences: | Good ideas – RT @ESLlibrary: Some ideas here: 7 tricks to help remember new words quickly and easily: http://tinyurl.com/4n8zpw6 #ELTChat |
| 9:50 pm | ayatawel: | @DinaDobrou thank u, Dina. shall i reply to any of u using this hashtag at the end #eltchat? |
| 9:51 pm | ELTExperiences: | RT @janetbianchini: For review of structures you could do “Stems” eg I shout out a beginning stem of a structure, ss have to write 2nd part down – #ELTchat |
| 9:51 pm | ELTExperiences: | @rliberni Is a good way for sts to recycle vocab autonomously is for them to keep a vocab book. Learner training in a way. #ELTChat |
| 9:51 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@ESLlibrary @DinaDobrou they might realise – the key – it must be natural and logical |
| 9:51 pm | rliberni: | @DinaDobrou it could be the students I work with sometimes but they certainly have their minds set on new #eltchat |
| 9:52 pm | waykatewit: | RT @ESLlibrary: @waykatewit @DinaDobrou Nice! I think the main point is the “new context”. Reviewing in a new way without them realizing? #ELTChat |
| 9:52 pm | DinaDobrou: | @du_siemens @sandymillin I’ve been teaching for 14 and still feel intimidated at the thought! #ELTChat |
| 9:52 pm | du_siemens: | RT @DinaDobrou: @du_siemens @sandymillin I’ve been teaching for 14 and still feel intimidated at the thought! #ELTChat |
| 9:52 pm | cioccas: | @DinaDobrou: @rliberni I usually find good autonomous learners understand importance of recycling #ELTChat |
| 9:52 pm | Fuertesun: | @DinaDobrou go for it! #ELTChat |
| 9:52 pm | du_siemens: | @DinaDobrou Join the club, dear. Maybe we could start one together, hehehehe! #ELTChat |
| 9:52 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @cioccas: @DinaDobrou: @rliberni I usually find good autonomous learners understand importance of recycling #ELTChat |
| 9:52 pm | juliachumphreys: | @sandymillin Thanks Quite hard to keep up but lots of interesting ideas #ELTchat |
| 9:53 pm | ayatawel: | I believe games r very important to help recycling vocabulary ! #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @ayatawel: I believe games r very important to help recycling vocabulary ! #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@ELTExperiences @rliberni keep a sep page foe vocab, sonfusables, grammar diffic, phrasals – all sep pages, adding wrds as U go on |
| 9:53 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @janetbianchini: For review of structures you could do “Stems” eg I shout out a beginning stem of a structure, ss have to write 2nd part down – #ELTchat |
| 9:53 pm | cioccas: | @du_siemens @DinaDobrou Go for it – I’d read your blogs! #ELTchat |
| 9:53 pm | janetbianchini: | @ayatawel Yes, always use the hashtag and write what you want to say to us all #ELTchat |
| 9:53 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @ELTExperiences: @rliberni a good way for sts to recycle vocab autonomously is 2 keep a vocab book. >> or a learner diary #ELTchat |
| 9:53 pm | ELTExperiences: | Totally agree – RT @Marisa_C: RT @ayatawel: I believe games r very important to help recycling vocabulary ! #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | lolonagi: | wow, I am following hardly > great ideas #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | taskmagic: | RT @ayatawel: I believe games r very important to help recycling vocabulary ! #eltchat — me too |
| 9:53 pm | SueannaN: | my tweetdeck is behaving strangely #ELTchat |
| 9:53 pm | rliberni: | @ELTExperiences yes and with my onine stuff we revisit & recycle a lot but there’s resistance #eltchat |
| 9:53 pm | Marisa_C: | @Fuertesun good point abt 10 yrs #ELTChat |
| 9:54 pm | DinaDobrou: | @Marisa_C Er…report? Haven’t I had enough writing homework already, my dear mentor?! lol #ELTChat |
| 9:54 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @JoshSRound: RT @ELTExperiences: @rliberni a good way for sts to recycle vocab autonomously is 2 keep a vocab book. >> or a learner diary #ELTchat |
| 9:54 pm | ESLlibrary: | An outstanding question seems to be how to recycle grammar/pronunciation -anything other than vocab. #ELTChat Suggestions? |
| 9:54 pm | du_siemens: | Ok. So @cioccas @sandymillin @theteacherjames would read my blog… Pleased! I might give it a go. #ELTChat |
| 9:54 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @Marisa_C @ayatawel love games… #ELTchat …and my adult classes too ) |
| 9:54 pm | rliberni: | @SueAnnan tweetdack has been a bit odd coming and going #eltchat |
| 9:54 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens me too #ELTChat |
| 9:54 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat@cioccas @DinaDobrou @rliberni agree – and you can develop the recycling habit, even urge, in ss themselves |
| 9:54 pm | aClilToClimb: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @ayatawel: I believe games r very important to help recycling vocabulary ! #eltchat You bet! Chk my games out. |
| 9:54 pm | ELTExperiences: | @rliberni why is there resistance? Do sts tend to say why do we study what we have learnt already? #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | Marisa_C: | 10 yrs can be 1 year multipied by 10 ! #ELTchat @Fuertesun heard that in @georgvassilakis talk recently #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | DinaDobrou: | @ayatawel Yes, and the person’s name at the beginning, like you did with me. #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | MrFoteah: | RT @laflecha: “No, there is something ELSE wrong with him” http://wp.me/p8OYa-mQ #edchat #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | sandymillin: | @ESLlibrary Revise conditionals by giving SS 1st half of sentences on sep. pieces of paper. They write 2nd. pass 2 next grp 2 match #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | theteacherjames: | @rliberni #ELTChat You should try teaching Koreans – they read dictionaries! I told some adv sts they didn’t need much vocab – the shock! |
| 9:55 pm | janetbianchini: | Yes, agree a vocab notebook is sth that all students should buy at beginnig of a course – I usuall insist they have one #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | fullonlearning: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @du_siemens: ?Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.? we have to engage students. #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | DinaDobrou: | RT @Marisa_C: 10 yrs can be 1 year multipied by 10 ! #ELTchat @Fuertesun heard that in @georgvassilakis talk recently #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | Fuertesun: | @ELTExperiences yes nt the present simple again! #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | KarenInGreece: | @SueAnnan Mine too! #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | Marisa_C: | @DinaDobrou this one will be in 140 #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | ELTExperiences: | Nicely said RT @Marisa_C: 10 yrs can be 1 year multipied by 10 ! #ELTchat @Fuertesun heard that in @georgvassilakis talk recently #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | JoshSRound: | @janetbianchini @JoshSRound @ELTExperiences @rliberni Ever had much success getting ss to write journal? I hav mostly short-termers #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | du_siemens: | Sometimes I write “What we have learned so far…” on the board and give them a couple of minutes to think in pairs. Works well. #ELTChat |
| 9:55 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @ESLlibrary grammar structures revision =use flashcards created by stds …and keep them for later )) #ELTchat |
| 9:55 pm | shaznosel: | @Marisa_C @Fuertesun @georgvassilakis it was a classic statement!#eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | rliberni: | @ELTExperiences there’s a feeling that if it isn’t new it’s wasting time I spend a lot of time on this #eltchat |
| 9:55 pm | ELTmethods: | @du_siemens @cioccas @sandymillin @theteacherjames I’d read it too! Go on! #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | sandymillin: | @du_siemens Think you might be being ganged up on #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | ESLlibrary: | RT @du_siemens: Sometimes I write “What we have learned so far…” on the board and give them a couple of minutes to think in pairs. Works well. #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | ayatawel: | how can blogs help with recycling?!!#eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @ESLlibrary: An outstanding question seems to be how to recycle grammar/pronunciation -anything other than vocab. #ELTChat Suggestions? |
| 9:56 pm | ELTExperiences: | @JoshSRound @janetbianchini @JoshSRound @rliberni as well as getting them to blog. #ELTChat |
| 9:56 pm | du_siemens: | Man, I gotta say… I just love being part of the #ELTChat. |
| 9:56 pm | KarenInGreece: | Early finishers can create vocab cards to be used later by all students #ELTchat |
| 9:56 pm | Marisa_C: | @ayatawel think of blogs as projects – only they are not stuck on the walls #eltchat |
| 9:56 pm | pwaylett2: | RT @janetbianchini: Vocabulary Games and Activities contains lots of great activities http://tinyurl.com/5uygl29 #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | ESLlibrary: | @du_siemens Maybe even a Friday or weekend blog about what we learned for those who are blogging. #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @ESLlibrary or you can try a matching game, dominoes…good for sentence structures, conjuctions, conditionals.. #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | KarenInGreece: | @du_siemens Me too! I look forward to it every Wednesday now #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | du_siemens: | @ayatawel You could set your ss a task in which they would have to use a specific grammar point / vocabulary? #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | teacher_prix: | #ELTChat – My 2 cents: I like to ask SS on the very 1st day to by an address book and use it as VocaLog! |
| 9:57 pm | JoshSRound: | RT @du_siemens: Sometimes I write “What we have learned so far…” on the bd and give a couple of minutes in pairs. >> like this #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | rliberni: | @theteacherjames I’ve had that too and translating word for word from a dictionary a habit it took a long time to break! #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | shaznosel: | RT @du_siemens: Man, I gotta say… I just love being part of the #ELTChat. |
| 9:57 pm | theteacherjames: | @ESLlibrary #ELTChat I really believe in teaching techniques that are tied to a real output – should provide plenty of opps for practice. |
| 9:57 pm | DinaDobrou: | @rliberni See what you mean now.They have the “finish-the-book mentality” #ELTChat They don’t see value of recycl. as form of consolidating. |
| 9:57 pm | janetbianchini: | @JoshSRound Yes, getting ss to write a journal has been successful, but usually very keen students take to it easily #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | ICTtower: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @du_siemens: ?Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.? we have to engage students. #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | Fuertesun: | If I had a penny for the aount of times I’ve hear “I’ve been teaching for 20 yrs” Did none tell em 20 yrs of same not good! #eltchat |
| 9:57 pm | waykatewit: | #ELTchat @JoshSRound @janetbianchini @ELTExperiences @rliberni I’ve done that with short-term courses – worked well |
| 9:57 pm | du_siemens: | @ESLlibrary Hum. Sounds good. #ELTChat |
| 9:57 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @du_siemens ) Great company, isn’t it? #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | taskmagic: | RT @vladkaslniecko: @ESLlibrary or try a matching game, dominoes…good for sentence structures, conjuctions, conditionals.. #ELTchat |
| 9:57 pm | rliberni: | @ELTExperiences these are great ideas and I agree with you not always easy with 1:1s #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | du_siemens: | @vladkaslniecko @shaznosel Tell me about it. I just love being here… it just feels right! #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | SueannaN: | There is another called Grammar games which is great too #ELTchat |
| 9:58 pm | ESLlibrary: | RT @DinaDobrou: @rliberni See what you mean now.They have the “finish-the-book mentality” #ELTChat They don’t see value of recycl. as form of consolidating. |
| 9:58 pm | DinaDobrou: | @du_siemens Sharing a phobia! Maybe it could work! lol #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | du_siemens: | As my friends @theteacherjames would say, I’m getting emotional over here. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | ayatawel: | @Marisa_C you mean students bogging regularly? #eltchat? |
| 9:58 pm | du_siemens: | @DinaDobrou It can’t be that difficult, can it? #ELTChat |
| 9:58 pm | Marisa_C: | @ayatawel correct #eltchat |
| 9:58 pm | shaznosel: | @Fuertesun #eltchat love this..can get out of hand but how else to recycle! |
| 9:58 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens #ELTChat Ever had anyone say “nothing”? |
| 9:58 pm | JulieKaine: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @du_siemens: ?Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.? we have to engage students. #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | rliberni: | @DinaDobrou that’s right new,new,new but it’s the time-money concept and you have to pull rabbits out of hats ti keep interest! #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens any fool can do it! #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Yes, I have… but they were mocking me… and sometimes I play with them too. #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | ayatawel: | @KarenInGreece I use cards regularly and by the end we r ready to revise all #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | rliberni: | @DinaDobrou not all I hasten to add #eltchat |
| 9:59 pm | du_siemens: | @Fuertesun Are you calling me a fool? hAUHAhuaHUA #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | Fuertesun: | @du_siemens I’m a blogger! #ELTChat |
| 9:59 pm | theteacherjames: | My suggestion for next weeks #ELTChat: should @du_siemens blog or not? |
| 9:59 pm | JoshSRound: | Gotta go – dinner’s ready!! Many thanks to all, esp gr8 moderators @Marisa_C & @rliberni #ELTchat |
| 10:00 pm | sallyswinfen: | @ESLlibrary Pronunciation – jazz chants? Ss write new one or add on more verses, then chant . #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | ESLlibrary: | @teacher_prix Yes, we talked about this at an #ELTChat a few weeks ago. Works well! @IsilBoy mentioned using Google Docs for this. |
| 10:00 pm | Fuertesun: | RT @theteacherjames: My suggestion for next weeks #ELTChat: should @du_siemens blog or not? |
| 10:00 pm | du_siemens: | RT @theteacherjames: My suggestion for next weeks #ELTChat: should @du_siemens blog or not? |
| 10:00 pm | Marisa_C: | @JoshSRound byeeeeee see u soon #ELTchat |
| 10:00 pm | sandymillin: | I show my SS a graph like this http://bit.ly/hWXuo1 2 encourage them. Ask them to do 5 mins per day (doesn’t happen, worth a try!) #eltchat |
| 10:00 pm | theteacherjames: | @rliberni #ELTChat Nightmare! |
| 10:00 pm | elisobeth: | RT @DinaDobrou: RT @du_siemens: ?Tell me and I’ll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I’ll understand.? we have to engage students. #ELTChat |
| 10:00 pm | lolonagi: | RT @JoshSRound: Gotta go – dinner’s ready!! Many thanks to all, esp gr8 moderators @Marisa_C & @rliberni #ELTchat>hehehehhehehehe |
Transcript for the 12:00 p.m. GMT #ELTchat on the topic of teaching exam classes
| 11:58 am | englishraven: | A quick glance at the tiebreaking tweets indicates to me we are going to discuss exam classes first up. #ELTChat Any objections? |
| 11:59 am | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven Exam classes sounds good (I’m biased as it was my suggestion, albeit from about 3 weeks ago! :p) #ELTchat |
| 11:59 am | michelleworgan: | Will be discussing exam classes on #ELTchat for the next hour – hello all you ELTchatters! |
| 11:59 am | rliberni: | @englishraven Exam classes sounds fine so Welcome everyone to #eltchat today mods are me, @englishraven @barbsaka (so far) |
| 11:59 am | du_siemens: | @rliberni @englishraven Come on. Don’t be so mad… I know you guys love having us around. #ELTChat |
| 12:00 pm | englishraven: | RT @rliberni: Exam classes sounds fine so Welcome everyone to #eltchat today mods are me, @englishraven @barbsaka (so far) |
| 12:00 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens the beauty of twitter is u can hang around and go on for hours without us! #eltchat |
| 12:00 pm | janetbianchini: | Looking forward to discussing exam classes now – #ELTchat |
| 12:00 pm | barbsaka: | Which exams do all y’all teach for? #ELTChat |
| 12:01 pm | bcnpaul1: | so it’s not the other choice then!? #eltchat |
| 12:01 pm | englishraven: | So let’s get a feel for the exams people are teaching (to) out there… Which exams do you and your learners face? #ELTChat |
| 12:01 pm | ozsolmaz: | hi everyone! great to be here can we define the term exam classes first? #ELTchat |
| 12:01 pm | rliberni: | OK exams are having a bad press generally at the moment so how do we feel about teaching them? #eltchat |
| 12:01 pm | englishraven: | @barbsaka Great minds think alike and all that… #ELTChat |
| 12:01 pm | rliberni: | RT @ozsolmaz: hi everyone! great to be here can we define the term exam classes first? #ELTchat |
| 12:01 pm | chucksandy: | for the next hour my tweets will be dedicated to #eltchat where we’re discussing (ugh!) exam classes. #eltchat |
| 12:01 pm | DaveDodgson: | @barbsaka Cambridge YL exams (Starters, Movers, Flyers) #ELTchat |
| 12:01 pm | janetbianchini: | Hi all! It’s a great topic – exam classes – one of my favourite courses #ELTchat |
| 12:01 pm | englishraven: | RT @DaveDodgson: @barbsaka Cambridge YL exams (Starters, Movers, Flyers) #ELTchat |
| 12:02 pm | vladkaslniecko: | I prepare for FCE exams #ELTChat …my only experience with teaching exam classes |
| 12:02 pm | DaveDodgson: | I’m also getting a 1-1 student ready for FCE #ELTchat |
| 12:02 pm | rliberni: | @englishraven for me IELTS mostly sometimes CAE and CPE #eltchat |
| 12:02 pm | janetbianchini: | I have taught Cambridge suite mainly, but also IELTS #ELTchat |
| 12:02 pm | ozsolmaz: | @rliberni I personally feel bad when I teach them especially when it is one-on-one + for exam! nightmare for me. #ELTchat |
| 12:02 pm | du_siemens: | First of all, in my humble opinion, I think that knowing the exam you’re preparing students for is crucial. What do you think? #ELTChat |
| 12:02 pm | petertoppington: | RT @DaveDodgson: @barbsaka Cambridge YL exams (Starters, Movers, Flyers) #ELTchat |
| 12:03 pm | NikkiFortova: | @barbsaka I’ve got C.A.E. and F.C.E. to prepare my learners for this year. #ELTChat |
| 12:03 pm | michelleworgan: | Cambridge Main Suite PET FCE CAE and YL exams for me #eltchat |
| 12:03 pm | chucksandy: | here in Japan it’s the TOEIC exam from ETS that’s got everyone’s attention. ETS did some “fantastic” marketing here. #eltchat |
| 12:03 pm | bcnpaul1: | not currently teaching exam classes but have taught all cambridge main suite (FCE,CAE,CPE) and find that they can be v.rewarding #eltchat |
| 12:03 pm | englishraven: | I’ve done Cambridge YLE, KET, PET, FCE, CAE, CPE, TOEIC, TOEFL, IELTS, host of local (Korea) ones, + OTE in Australia. #ELTChat |
| 12:04 pm | janetbianchini: | @du_siemens I agree – you should know it inside out! #ELTchat |
| 12:04 pm | rliberni: | @ozsolmaz my students are mostly 1:1 but they really have to have IELTS so it’s very rewarding to get them to the right level #eltchat |
| 12:04 pm | KarenInGreece: | B2-C2 levels of Michigan, Cambridge, LTE, City and Guilds as well as TIE, Trinity spoken exams… #ELTChat |
| 12:04 pm | cintiastella: | I go to an American language institute in Lima, Peru where students do the Michigan tests #ELTChat |
| 12:04 pm | bcnpaul1: | what I hate about exam classes is.. a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat anyone agree? |
| 12:04 pm | barbsaka: | Cambridge YL, FCE, IELTS, CAE, CPE, LTE, City and Guilds, TIE, Trinity, TOEIC, PET…Is everyone familiar with these acronyms? #ELTChat |
| 12:04 pm | du_siemens: | @janetbianchini Yes. Otherwise how are we gonna provide our students with helpful tips if we ourselves don’t know the exam? #ELTChat |
| 12:04 pm | janetbianchini: | @bcnpaul1 Agreed – motivating studnets to pass is v. rewarding #ELTchat but hard sometimes |
| 12:04 pm | lolonagi: | @bcnpaul1 totally agree about the practice #eltchat |
| 12:04 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @bcnpaul1: what I hate about exam classes is.. a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat anyone agree? |
| 12:05 pm | du_siemens: | @bcnpaul1 I have the same feeling. #ELTChat |
| 12:05 pm | englishraven: | @KarenInGreece @CintiaStella Don’t know much about the Michigan tests (though heard of them). What do you think of them? #ELTChat |
| 12:05 pm | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven How are the local ones in Korea? The English tests in Turkey have some bizarre questions! #ELTchat |
| 12:05 pm | rliberni: | @bcnpaul1 yes, my experience too I often tell them to throw away the book and watch telly – especially IELTS! #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | du_siemens: | Although I try to make classes interesting as much as possible, sometimes students get bored and they just wanna talk. #ELTChat |
| 12:05 pm | michelleworgan: | Do your stds ignore the techniques u constantly teach them when they actually do an exam? #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | ozsolmaz: | @rliberni that feels great when you help them achieve. I don’t like the pressure parents putting on teacher and student..ugh.. #ELTchat |
| 12:05 pm | chucksandy: | Is there any point of teaching to an exam? I mean, isn’t familiarizing Ss w/ an exam enough.Then get on w/ teaching English right? #eltchat |
| 12:05 pm | DaveDodgson: | RT @bcnpaul1: what I hate about exam classes is a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat I agree |
| 12:06 pm | englishraven: | @DaveDodgson The local ones in Korea are shockers. Absolute shockers. Reliability swamping out all validity. #ELTChat |
| 12:06 pm | du_siemens: | @michelleworgan Do you know that I’ve realized? Some students of mine have their own techniques and they work quite well. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 12:06 pm | englishraven: | RT @DaveDodgson: RT @bcnpaul1: what I hate about exam classes is a lot of t’s & sts’ think it’s just about practice practice & more practice #eltchat I agree |
| 12:06 pm | rliberni: | @lolonagi my definition of an exam lass is one where the endgame is to take a pass a specific test e.g FCE, CAE etc #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: @michelleworgan Do you know that I’ve realized? Some students of mine have their own techniques and they work quite well. LOL. #ELTChat |
| 12:06 pm | barbsaka: | RT @rliberni: @lolonagi my definition of an exam lass is one where the endgame is to take a pass a specific test e.g FCE, CAE etc #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | michelleworgan: | @chucksandy In theory true, but the actual stuff they need to know in an exam doesn’t come up naturally #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | du_siemens: | @chucksandy I’m not sure, Chuck. I guess we have to teach them how to deal the exam. #ELTChat |
| 12:06 pm | lolonagi: | I always advise my Ss to answer as many exams as possible t pass #eltchat |
| 12:06 pm | KarenInGreece: | @englishraven I like them-they are regarded (nearly?) as highly as cambridge here.GCVR OK,but writing and speaking parts very good #ELTChat |
| 12:07 pm | DaveDodgson: | @chucksandy That’s what I think. Unfortunately, department heads & parents often disagree #ELTchat |
| 12:07 pm | englishraven: | @chucksandy I’ve found there are really great ways to take Ss “inside” exams, where teaching/learning take precedence. #ELTChat |
| 12:07 pm | rliberni: | @michelleworgan I think it’s a combination of what they can learn generally and the technique for the exam #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | chucksandy: | @michelleworgan Do you think teaching test taking strategies helps? Your right: there seems to be little transfer. #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | michelleworgan: | @englishraven Wha are those mysterious “ways” you talk about? ;P #eltchat |
| 12:07 pm | barbsaka: | So 2 types of class instruction–how to succeed on the test (strategies, familiarity) and language likely to be tested? #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | du_siemens: | I usually tell my ss: “it doesn’t matter how good UR English is, if U don’t have the techniques, u’re likely to face difficulties” #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | KarenInGreece: | A lot of teachers also think it’s about practise, practise, practise and not about teaching language and skills. #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | du_siemens: | @NikkiFortova That’s what I do, you know? but sometimes they just wanna talk for the sake of talking. #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @michelleworgan: @chucksandy In theory true, but the actual stuff they need to know in an exam doesn’t come up naturally #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | janetbianchini: | Teaching students the necessary skills / strategies invoilved is vital as well as practice #ELTchat |
| 12:08 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @janetbianchini: Teaching students the necessary skills / strategies invoilved is vital as well as practice #ELTchat |
| 12:08 pm | chucksandy: | RT @englishraven: “Ive found there are really great ways to take Ss “inside” exams, where teaching/learning take precedence.”Agree! #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | rliberni: | I like to teach beyond the exam if they are working at band 7 IELTS then they will be comfortable for a 6.5 #eltchat |
| 12:08 pm | du_siemens: | @theteacherjames Completely agreed. That’s why I love talking to you guys! hehehe #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven Same here. Out-dated or highly unusual vocab, long texts to read & naswer for just one point, no writing/speaking… #ELTchat |
| 12:08 pm | englishraven: | @michelleworgan Have them examine the tests, then make their own projects and items for them, then ‘test’ each other! #ELTChat |
| 12:08 pm | bcnpaul1: | sts respond when communication the main focus& then “btw – that’s v.useful for the X,Y or Z paper- e.g. blogging & writing paper #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishraven: @chucksandy I’ve found there are really great ways to take Ss “inside” exams, where teaching/learning take precedence. #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @englishraven: @michelleworgan Have them examine the tests, then make their own projects and items for them, then ‘test’ each other! #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | KarenInGreece: | How important are the exams in your teaching context? Here there’s an obsession with taking them.We have 14yo taking CPE exams. #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @KarenInGreece: A lot of teachers also think it’s about practise, practise, practise and not about teaching language and skills. #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | Exam is a huge word here in Indonesia,it frightened my students lots of time, any suggestion on how to make the word ‘smaller’? #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @englishraven: @michelleworgan Have them examine the tests, then make their own projects and items for them, then ‘test’ each other! #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | du_siemens: | @KarenInGreece That’s outrageous, I guess. The CPE exam can be quite dense. #ELTChat |
| 12:09 pm | larisa1113: | RT @cioccas: RT @Marisa_C: #ELTchat! Have you voted yet? http://twtpoll.com/1gwnaa I have! Pleas vote and RT |
| 12:09 pm | theteacherjames: | @du_siemens Absolutely crucial to know the exam – half of what we do is to teach them how to take the test, not just language. #eltchat |
| 12:09 pm | michelleworgan: | @KarenInGreece Jesus, how can a 14 yr old do CPE? It’s completely academic! #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven @michelleworgan I like that one too – have them write their own questions in the style of the exam & quiz classmates #ELTchat |
| 12:10 pm | chucksandy: | @englishraven Love what you do with TOEFL – helping students get inside the exam. Can you share some insider tips & advice here? #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | vladkaslniecko: | here stds think they are only going to TALK…they forget on what @chucksandy described as “familiarizing with exam”…#ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | englishraven: | Exam prep/stress is probably the biggest bugbear in our profession. Need to play that ball smarter, not harder. #ELTChat |
| 12:10 pm | rliberni: | @chucksandy I work my exam classes hard I expect a lot and they need to deliver but I place emphasis on language not test #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | barbsaka: | @yitzha_sarwono Perhaps familiarity with the exams, so they don’t seem so intimidating? #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @rliberni: I like to teach beyond the exam if they are working at band 7 IELTS then they will be comfortable for a 6.5 #eltchat |
| 12:10 pm | janetbianchini: | #ELTchat Yes, get ss to make up their own tests for each other is a great stimulus and fun for them! |
| 12:10 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: #ELTchat Yes, get ss to make up their own tests for each other is a great stimulus and fun for them! |
| 12:10 pm | lolonagi: | RT @janetbianchini: #ELTchat Yes, get ss to make up their own tests for each other is a great stimulus and fun for them! like |
| 12:10 pm | BrunoELT: | #eltchat for the advanced tests (CAE, CPE) sts are given techniques on how to do the test. They do not “acquire” language at this point |
| 12:11 pm | ozsolmaz: | @barbsaka I know many colleagues who can pass the foreign language exam in TRK but can’t speak one word as they learn the technique #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | DaveDodgson: | @michelleworgan @KarenInGreece A 15 y/o recently asked for my help to prepare for TOEFL! #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @englishraven: Exam prep/stress is probably the biggest bugbear in our profession. Need to play that ball smarter, not harder. #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | englishraven: | @chucksandy Basically, use a Task-based approach, and let the exam items and formats create some parameters. #ELTChat (Too brief?) |
| 12:11 pm | janetbianchini: | @michelleworgan Yes, I had 14 year-olds attempting CPE in Greece but they failed miserably -too immature at that age for the topics #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | du_siemens: | @BrunoELT They do acquire language, don’t they? I’m speaking for myself… I did when I was gearing myself up for the CPE. #ELTChat |
| 12:11 pm | barbsaka: | @ozsolmaz I think that’s typical with tests in general (not just language learners) #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @janetbianchini and they can see the principle of the exam/test formation #ELTchat |
| 12:11 pm | chucksandy: | RT @rliberni: “I work exam classes hard I expect a lot & they need to deliver but I place emphasis on language not test” Right on! #eltchat |
| 12:11 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @barbsaka once i used ‘pop quiz’ for my high school class and gives chocolate for the best one, was that terrible? #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | lolonagi: | @DaveDodgson the TOEFL exam, local and international IBT #eltchat…. which is easier? |
| 12:12 pm | rliberni: | Exams are tests of language if they have the language the test shouldn’t be an issue #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | KarenInGreece: | @du_siemens I agree.They often don’t have the subject knowledge depth for that level (even in L1). #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | barbsaka: | @yitzha_sarwono You know your students better than we do. Did it get your the results you wanted? #eltchat |
| 12:12 pm | du_siemens: | @KarenInGreece Yeah, it’s not a matter of language most of the time, but maturity. #ELTChat |
| 12:12 pm | DaveDodgson: | @ozsolmaz @barbsaka I’ve found the same – some students who have passed TOEFL or local exams but can hardly speak! #ELTchat |
| 12:13 pm | rliberni: | No student should EVER go into an exam cold I feel but they sometimes do!! #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | chucksandy: | RT @englishraven: “Basically use a Task-based approach, and let the exam items and formats create some parameters.”Nice! What else? #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | GilMattos: | @barbsaka University of Michigan ECCE and ECPE; TOEFL #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | michelleworgan: | What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | DaveDodgson: | @lolonagi I think that very much depends on the person who is taking them #ELTchat |
| 12:13 pm | rliberni: | RT @michelleworgan: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | barbsaka: | RT @michelleworgan: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | KarenInGreece: | @michelleworgan I agree! Sometimes they have an essay to write and they can’t even think of ideas for it in their L1! #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | KarenInGreece: | @bcnpaul1 @michelleworgan I agree – that would be much more appropriate and helpful for them. #ELTChat |
| 12:13 pm | rliberni: | @michelleworgan I would question why they were there and advise them about waiting #eltchat |
| 12:13 pm | barbsaka: | @michelleworgan Teach them to have a good sense of humor and not judge their worth based on the results #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | DaveDodgson: | RT @michelleworgan: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: @michelleworgan Teach them to have a good sense of humor and not judge their worth based on the results #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | englishraven: | A couple of links/resources coming… 1st up. Notion of using Cambridge YLE materials as course material! http://bit.ly/eDpu7N #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | brad5patterson: | @englishraven Bugbear it is… and smart we need. i’m curious… do you prepare more IELTS in Australia, or TOEIC, TOEFL? #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | vladkaslniecko: | i am sometimes sad to see that some of my colleagues find exam classes too SERIOUS to make fun and play there #ELTchat |
| 12:14 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @michelleworgan: What do u do with stds that don’t have a good enough level but are in exam prep class and intent on doing exam? #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | ozsolmaz: | RT @rliberni: Exams are tests of language if they have the language the test shouldn’t be an issue #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | lolonagi: | should we also talk about the GRE when Ss take it or it’s just overwhelming #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | michelleworgan: | @KarenInGreece Of course, can a 14 yr old write exam task type pieces in L1? They have never had to do so usually #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | du_siemens: | Another thing, we as teachers should tell our students not to do an exam if they are not ready for it. It’s happened to me. #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | janetbianchini: | @michelleworgan #ELTChat Good question – it makes it v hard for everyone. Get that student to do online quizzes for exam? |
| 12:14 pm | rliberni: | @KarenInGreece I sympathise I would hate to be asked to write an IELTS essay! #eltchat |
| 12:14 pm | KarenInGreece: | @du_siemens I agree, maturity is a big issue here #ELTChat |
| 12:14 pm | chucksandy: | I have to come out of the closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education. #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | englishraven: | @chucksandy TEACHING UNPLUGGED is by far the best way to approach exams. #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: Another thing, we as teachers should tell our students not to do an exam if they are not ready for it. It’s happened to me. #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @barbsaka yes, but i felt like i’m buying them off to liking it! hahahahaha #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | republicofmath: | See http://wp.me/p1mk0j-MN @rliberni #Exams are tests of #language; if they have language, test shouldn’t be issue #eltchat #mathchat |
| 12:15 pm | BrunoELT: | #eltchat it’s good for sts to start up from the very first tests so that when they get to the advanced ones they are confident enough |
| 12:15 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @du_siemens: Another thing, we as teachers should tell our students not to do an exam if they are not ready for it. It’s happened to me. #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | bcnpaul1: | @michelleworgan sts not at the level – w/YLs try to spk to parents, but in spain v.diff to dissuade sts from FCE (The Holy Grail) #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | du_siemens: | I’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @chucksandy: I have to come out of closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education #eltchat Me too |
| 12:15 pm | fiandjo: | #ELTchat Focus on the distractors and items being tested is essential. Teachers (and students) should know the exam in depth. |
| 12:15 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @du_siemens: I’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | englishraven: | @brad5patterson Australia is huge on IELTS, TOEFL gaining some traction, TOEIC a no-show. #ELTChat |
| 12:15 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @DaveDodgson @michelleworgan also important to know how much they are motivated…and if they realise they need to work more #ELTchat |
| 12:15 pm | barbsaka: | @chucksandy If you were in the closet about that one then you’re not very good at keeping a secret #eltchat |
| 12:15 pm | du_siemens: | @BrunoELT and they theoretically know what it’s all about… #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | RT @chucksandy: I have to come out of the closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education. #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | ozsolmaz: | @waykatewit In some exams in Turkey, they don’t test speaking or writing at all! #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | du_siemens: | @michelleworgan have u ever used it? #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @chucksandy: I have to come out of the closet to say I’m very anti standardized exam & consider it the dark side of education. #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | rliberni: | @NikkiFortova absolutely I would never advise anybody to go into an exam without some practice but language is the key #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | michelleworgan: | Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat |
| 12:16 pm | rliberni: | RT @KarenInGreece: @du_siemens I agree, maturity is a big issue here #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @du_siemens: I’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | du_siemens: | @chucksandy How would that be different? Teaching unplugged… #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | cintiastella: | @vladkaslniecko Our attitude is essential! We need to show our Ss that exams are important but they shouldn’t be afraid of them #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | BobK99: | Sorry I’m late for #eltchat. Not ignoring you, but catching up |
| 12:16 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: I’m not sure if you guys are familiar with this website, but www.flo-joe.co.uk is just wonderful to use in class. #ELTChat |
| 12:16 pm | lolonagi: | RT @michelleworgan: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat a>gree |
| 12:16 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @du_siemens: @michelleworgan have u ever used it? #ELTChat| Yes, in class and for stds to do at home |
| 12:17 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @brad5patterson @davedodgson @michelleworgan good point, Brad! Motivation is crucial!#ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | BrunoELT: | Thats the spirit! RT @du_siemens: @BrunoELT and they theoretically know what it’s all about… #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | I think we need to let them know that it’s not merely results that we look for but the fact that exam is a way for them to practice #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | chucksandy: | RT @barbsaka: LOL I suppose i have been rather vocal over the years about my anti-exam activities, haven’t I? ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | barbsaka: | Japan too! RT @ozsolmaz: @waykatewit In some exams in Turkey, they don’t test speaking or writing at all! #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | bcnpaul1: | some sts only see the certificate at the end important rather than the process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | @michelleworgan @chucksandy I AGREE we’re at the stage where if it moves test it! #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | englishraven: | ‘The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one’ http://bit.ly/ds3T9o #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven Yes, I recall hearing Aussie accents on the IELTS prep materials all the time when I last did it! #ELTchat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishraven: ‘The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one’ http://bit.ly/ds3T9o#ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | barbsaka: | @BobK99 Welcome! #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @bcnpaul1: some sts only see the cert at end important rather than process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat Exactly |
| 12:17 pm | janetbianchini: | Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat |
| 12:17 pm | rliberni: | RT @bcnpaul1: some sts only see the certificate at the end important rather than the process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | barbsaka: | @chucksandy Just a bit #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @michelleworgan: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat |
| 12:17 pm | du_siemens: | @bcnpaul1 But I think it’s our roles as teachers to show them how much progress they’re making. #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @lolonagi: RT @michelleworgan: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat a>gree |
| 12:18 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @janetbianchini: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | ozsolmaz: | @michelleworgan thats good point but some students can hardly fine time to come to the classes let alone studying outside the class #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | michelleworgan: | @janetbianchini I find it v difficult to find time to play/have fun though #eltchat |
| 12:18 pm | ozsolmaz: | RT @janetbianchini: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | englishraven: | @chucksandy It’s only the dark side of our lot if we let it be… Teachers have more influence here than they think/allow. #ELTChat |
| 12:18 pm | bcnpaul1: | @michelleworgan @chucksandy the dark side! but also very motivating in lots of ways. And doesn’t always need to be trad. teaching #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @englishraven: @chucksandy It’s only the dark side of our lot if we let it be… Teachers have more influence here than they think/allow. #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | waykatewit: | @ozsolmaz OMG! #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | janetbianchini: | Getting exam prep students to be responsible for themselves for passing exam is crucial – outside activities should be the norm #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | rliberni: | @bcnpaul1 oft the case with IELTS after the exam all stops even though at band 6 they’re not ready 2 do a degree in English!! #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | chucksandy: | RT @du_siemens “How would Teaching unplugged be different?” Teaching naturally what needs to be taught.Going for tteaching moments. #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @BrunoELT: RT @michelleworgan: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | du_siemens: | @michelleworgan I’m not sure if I agree. Do you know that task in which they have four different texts and 15 questions? #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | NikkiFortova: | @rliberni yes, agree, if they don’t have the linguistic resources strategies won’t make up for that. #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | ozsolmaz: | @janetbianchini excellent.I have met some students who dont want fun stuff or break. They want you to keep teaching though. really! #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @BrunoELT: RT @michelleworgan: Problem is lack of learner autonomy – work outside class is necessary to do well in exams usually #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | DaveDodgson: | @brad5patterson But IELTS is increasingly being used as a standard for local job & university applications, same as TOEFL #ELTchat |
| 12:19 pm | englishraven: | Let’s not forget, these exams are potentially life-changing, so our own preferences/ideals have to often take a back seat. #ELTChat |
| 12:19 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @bcnpaul1: some sts only see the certificate at the end important rather than the process, so even if they’re weak level, they carry on #eltchat |
| 12:19 pm | du_siemens: | @chucksandy That’s a very good point. I might do it one of these days… I tend to plan everything beforehand. #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | bcnpaul1: | #eltchat teaching 4 an exam can often mean freedom from following the coursebook as well – v.involved w/sts immediate needs = focus on sts |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | here,exams always mean testing your grammar when i feel like it narrowed them to only study one part only leaving listening abandon #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | ozsolmaz: | RT @waykatewit: @ozsolmaz OMG! #ELTChat << love the reaction but it is true #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | KarenInGreece: | @bcnpaul1 And don’t forget, it’s some parents who only see the certificate regardless of their child’s abilities #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | vladkaslniecko: | @michelleworgan @janetbianchini me too, but I use at least the time when repeating or recycling to play and have fun ) #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | @janetbianchini I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat |
| 12:20 pm | janetbianchini: | @michelleworgan Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice |
| 12:20 pm | du_siemens: | The hardest thing to deal with here in Salvador is when U have classes with ss who R willing to take the exam and ss who are not… #ELTChat |
| 12:20 pm | barbsaka: | Exam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat (bread and butter for a lot of teachers) |
| 12:20 pm | englishraven: | RT @janetbianchini: @michelleworgan Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice |
| 12:20 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: @michelleworgan Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice |
| 12:21 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @janetbianchini: Exam classes are sometimes a bit serious, but we should do fun stuff with them as well – breaks up the intensity #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @barbsaka: Exam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat (bread and butter for a lot of teachers) |
| 12:21 pm | lolonagi: | RT @janetbianchini: @michelleworgan Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat – ge? (cont) http://deck.ly/~YxKl6 |
| 12:21 pm | chucksandy: | @englishraven: agree. Ts have enormous influence on how Ss perceive exams & thus on how Ss perceive themselves #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | rliberni: | RT @chucksandy: @englishraven: agree. Ts have enormous influence on how Ss perceive exams & thus on how Ss perceive themselves #eltchat |
| 12:21 pm | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven Many people I work with see little point to the YL exams. Do you think they testing at that age serves a purpose? #ELTchat |
| 12:21 pm | du_siemens: | @michelleworgan Yep. I photocopy each text and I blow them up. I put each 1 on a different wall and give ss the questions. Dynamic. #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | englishraven: | RT @KarenInGreece: @bcnpaul1 And don’t forget, it’s some parents who only see the certificate regardless of their child’s abilities #ELTChat |
| 12:21 pm | chucksandy: | RT @barbsaka: Exam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat (bread and butter for a lot of teachers) Yes #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | NikkiFortova: | RT @janetbianchini: @michelleworgan Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice |
| 12:22 pm | vladkaslniecko: | RT @KarenInGreece: @bcnpaul1 And don’t forget, it’s some parents who only see the certificate regardless of their child’s abilities #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | du_siemens: | @brad5patterson I think we need to do it, you know? Doing exercises in class is way different from actually taking the live exam. #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | englishraven: | @DaveDodgson Yes. I find those tests about as good as can be managed for YLs. Handled right, they can be positive. #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | bcnpaul1: | exam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. take in use of english part 1,2,3 or 4 & get 2 hrs from it focusing on gaps / topic etc. #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | rliberni: | @barbsaka but teachers can make the difference between drudgery and excitement – use the exam to perform & demo ur great English! #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @du_siemens: @michelleworgan Yep. I photocopy each text and I blow them up. I put each 1 on a different wall and give ss the questions. Dynamic. #ELTChat |
| 12:22 pm | BrunoELT: | #eltchat the confidence factor is undoubtably positive when sts take exams. Often they come to me and say “I didnt know I knew that much” |
| 12:22 pm | barbsaka: | Kids’ English and Exams–it’s what parents are willing to pay for even in bad economy #eltchat |
| 12:22 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @janetbianchini: @michelleworgan Using www.fotobabble for speaking tests is an excellent tool #ELTChat – gets them speaking for 1 minute on a phot of choice |
| 12:22 pm | rliberni: | RT @BrunoELT: #eltchat the confidence factor is undoubtably positive when sts take exams. Often they come to me and say “I didnt know I knew that much” |
| 12:22 pm | barbsaka: | RT @rliberni: teachers can make the difference between drudgery and excitement – use the exam to perform & demo ur great English! #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | michelleworgan: | @DaveDodgson Not much point but the kids actually enjoy them #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | englishraven: | RT @rliberni: @janetbianchini I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven exam=life changing .That is exactly why some are afraid of it #eltchat |
| 12:23 pm | Marisa_C: | Hello everyone and thanks to ye wondrful mods @englishraven @riberni @barbsaka – sorry am late just out of a TP fb #ELTchat |
| 12:23 pm | du_siemens: | @DaveDodgson @michelleworgan not to mention that they are also practicing for future exams such as FCE, CAE e CPE… #ELTChat |
| 12:23 pm | BrunoELT: | @janetbianchini: @michelleworgan Using www.fotobabble 4 speaking tests is an gr8tool #ELTChat -gets sts speaking for 1m on a phot of choice |
| 12:23 pm | rliberni: | @brad5patterson like a mock exam yes I used to – I now do mostly 1:1 more like coaching #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | englishraven: | @yitzha_sarwono Right. One of the T’s key challenges is to confront and reduce that fear. #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | barbsaka: | @Marisa_C So you’ll give me a pass on my homework? #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | du_siemens: | @Marisa_C I missed you here. Glad to see you back. #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @bcnpaul1: exam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. take in use of english part 1,2,3 or 4 & get 2 hrs from it focusing on gaps / topic etc. #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | bcnpaul1: | @DaveDodgson @englishraven YLE exams give a nice focus but I can’t get the money-making thought out of my head when I teach them #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @bcnpaul1: exam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. #eltchat > I like this idea |
| 12:24 pm | janetbianchini: | http://tinyurl.com/4t4dymb #ELTChat Nice ideas here for using this simple tool! |
| 12:24 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @rliberni: @janetbianchini I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | @Marisa_C Hi Marisa welcome we’re really getting our teeth into exams here! #eltchat |
| 12:24 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @barbsaka: Exam prep is also one of the fastest growing segments in ELT #eltchat (bread and butter for a lot of teachers) |
| 12:24 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: http://tinyurl.com/4t4dymb #ELTChat Nice ideas here for using this simple tool! |
| 12:24 pm | waykatewit: | @yitzha_sarwono @englishraven and that’s exactly why others love them! #ELTChat |
| 12:24 pm | englishraven: | @bcnpaul1 That’s why I only used to use them in-house. Never sent my kids to take the official versions. #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | BrunoELT: | #eltchat Sometimes I see exam prep course as way too boring! What do you guys do to change it? |
| 12:25 pm | DaveDodgson: | @bcnpaul1 Same here – do they really need three levels in order to get them ‘ready’ for future tests? #ELTchat |
| 12:25 pm | BrunoELT: | RT @englishraven: RT @rliberni: @janetbianchini I agree the exam is the destination NOT the journey #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | janetbianchini: | @Marisa_C HI Marisa – great to see you #ELTChat exam classes – fast and furious as ever! |
| 12:25 pm | du_siemens: | @BrunoELT Maybe teaching unplugged as @chucksandy has mentioned? #ELTChat |
| 12:25 pm | michelleworgan: | @englishraven @bcnpaul1 Maybe u should write an unplugged exam class blogpost ;P #eltchat |
| 12:25 pm | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven I find the speaking is way to easy while the reading/writing is quite demanding #ELTchat |
| 12:25 pm | Marisa_C: | @rliberni @du_siemens #eltchat@barbsaka #ELTChat #eltchat hi and thanks! |
| 12:25 pm | BrunoELT: | How? I missed that tweet RT @du_siemens: @BrunoELT Maybe teaching unplugged as @chucksandy has mentioned? #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | SimonGreenall: | @Marisa_C Hi Marisa! #eltchat #ELTChat #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @janetbianchini: @Marisa_C HI Marisa – great to see you #ELTChat exam classes – fast and furious as ever! |
| 12:26 pm | englishraven: | @michelleworgan Already have! http://bit.ly/ds3T9o #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | I have always told my students that test are merely another one of those exam prep we do every now and then #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | Marisa_C: | @janetbianchini give a helping hand Janet – missed the start of this #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | DaveDodgson: | @brad5patterson Yes, employers love to use test scores as criteria here, even in goverment jobs #ELTchat |
| 12:26 pm | brad5patterson: | RT @englishraven: Don’t forget, these exams are can b life-changing, so our own preferences/ideals have to often take a back seat. #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | du_siemens: | @BrunoELT … and I’m lost with so many tweets, trying to keep up with ‘em. #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | michelleworgan: | @DaveDodgson In YL exams they always pass the speaking – I think it is important that the younger ones do well though #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | barbsaka: | RT @englishraven: ‘The best approach to exam prep is an unplugged one’ http://bit.ly/ds3T9o#ELTChat @BrunoELT |
| 12:26 pm | rliberni: | @SimonGreenall Hi Simon we’re here again – talking about exam classes what’s your take? #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | bcnpaul1: | @englishraven nice idea! Don’t they ever ask “mr.englishraven – when do we take the ‘real’ test?” #eltchat |
| 12:26 pm | waykatewit: | @englishraven @yitzha_sarwono I smtms do that by showing them the not-so-perfect responses of some . ss to show they CAN do better #ELTChat |
| 12:26 pm | du_siemens: | Can I ask you guys something I’m passionate about? What about speaking? Do we really train our students to do the speaking paper? #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | chucksandy: | @du_siemens actually it was @englishraven 1st mentioned unplugged exam prep. Trick is: convincing Ss it works! It does of course #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | michelleworgan: | @englishraven Must have missed that one! #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | BrunoELT: | So do i! RT @Marisa_C: RT @bcnpaul1: exam classes can also be v.dogme-centred. #eltchat > I like this idea |
| 12:27 pm | janetbianchini: | I love teaching exam classes because motivation for me to get them to pass is very high – so maybe my enthusiasm spurs ss on? #ELTChat |
| 12:27 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens I would say yes as they are stylised & students need to know what to expect #eltchat |
| 12:27 pm | rliberni: | RT @janetbianchini: I love teaching exam classes because motivation for me to get them to pass is very high – so maybe my enthusiasm spurs ss on? #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | du_siemens: | @janetbianchini So does mine… I’m sure. They get all excited… #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | lolonagi: | following, but havent taught exam classes before #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | bcnpaul1: | @michelleworgan hmmm exams unplugged – now there’s an idea #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | barbsaka: | RT @bcnpaul1: @michelleworgan hmmm exams unplugged – now there’s an idea #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | du_siemens: | @rliberni I’m not sure if I understand. #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | englishraven: | The potential vagueness/looseness of Dogme and the constrained/contrived nature of exams actually make for a positive mix… #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | rliberni: | @janetbianchini I agree I always enjoyed them too they do up your game! #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | DaveDodgson: | @michelleworgan I just feel/know that most of my students are capable of a lot more when speaking – it’s their strongest skill #ELTchat |
| 12:28 pm | janetbianchini: | @Marisa_C We are discussing approaches to exam classes – how to motivate etc #ELTChat + strategies |
| 12:28 pm | ozsolmaz: | RT @chucksandy: @du_siemens actually it was @englishraven 1st mentioned unplugged exam prep. Trick is: convincing Ss it works! It does of course #eltchat |
| 12:28 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @englishraven: “Basically use a Task-based approach, and let the exam items and formats create some parameters.” #eltchat > agree |
| 12:28 pm | waykatewit: | @DaveDodgson @englishraven it depends… many ss are better at receptive skills #ELTChat |
| 12:28 pm | chucksandy: | In dogme/unplugged exam prep, Ss have to see they’re making progress: writing more fluently over time, speaking w/ more fluency… #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @janetbianchini: I love teaching exam classes because motivation for me to get them to pass is very high – so maybe my enthusiasm spurs ss on? #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | rliberni: | @du_siemens re speaking I think stds should be prepared for this too! #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | fiandjo: | exams have 2 b looked at differently depending on whether formative or summative; diff psychological effects + practical purposes #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | rliberni: | RT @chucksandy: In dogme/unplugged exam prep, Ss have to see they’re making progress: writing more fluently over time, speaking w/ more fluency… #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | DaveDodgson: | Do you use past papers? If so, how? #ELTchat |
| 12:29 pm | michelleworgan: | What is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | KarenInGreece: | @du_siemens Yes I train mine for the speaking exams. Take them through the stages and teach them skills eg interrupting politely #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | englishraven: | @waykatewit @DaveDodgson Yes, I agree. In Asia, the YLs do much better with reading than listening/speaking. #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | barbsaka: | RT @michelleworgan: What is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat |
| 12:29 pm | du_siemens: | @KarenInGreece That’s what I do… and it makes wonder. #ELTChat |
| 12:29 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @fiandjo: exams have 2 b looked at differently depending on whether formative or summative; diff psychological effects + practical purposes #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | Marisa_C: | @janetbianchini thanks Janet – loads of great ideas here abt using TBL and the dogmeists are here too #ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | sedayyildirim: | as English is usually fun for students , they get anxious when it comes to exams ! I do my best in order 2 relax them before exams #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | BobK99: | @chucksandy Yup. I’ve never had an exam class, but obv. best prep for a p-&-p exam. But what about online exms? #eltchat (@barbaska – Thx.) |
| 12:30 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @michelleworgan: What is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat > Utterly dire |
| 12:30 pm | tasoulazac: | RT @barbsaka: RT @michelleworgan: What is your opinion on exam course books? #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | chucksandy: | @stevenherder of @MASHinEFL is doing wonderful unplugged fluency work in IBT classes. He’s a great resource. Paul Nation, too #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | rliberni: | @michelleworgan I think students like to have something to refer to so coursebooks are a good idea but not the b all & end all #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | michelleworgan: | I find it very difficult to find an exam book that takes just 1 school year #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | englishraven: | @michelleworgan Most of the exam prep books are pretty bloody awful, to be honest. #ELTChat |
| 12:30 pm | DaveDodgson: | @englishraven It’s the opposite with kids in Turkey! #ELTchat |
| 12:30 pm | bcnpaul1: | @BrunoELT @Marisa_C it depends on a viewpoint – if u go to class overplanned & laden with /bks & practice tests it’s stifling #eltchat |
| 12:30 pm | SimonGreenall: | @rliberni Hi Berni, I’m just reading through. #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | rliberni: | @michelleworgan It could be used as a reference and dipped in and out of #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | KarenInGreece: | @michelleworgan It depends on the coursebook. I use some good ones that teach students the exam, skills needed, general skills etc #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | janetbianchini: | @sedayyildirim #ELTChat Yes, relaxing techniques are very useful + tips on how to deal with problem areas etc |
| 12:31 pm | michelleworgan: | @englishraven Books take sme topics (&vocab etc) as exams so they become just as boring #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | englishraven: | The best exam prep c/books I’ve seen have come from OUP and Grant Trew (for TOEIC). Make a dud exam almost feel enjoyable! #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | chucksandy: | BobK99: how would pencil / paper vs online exams make a difference in how students prepare? Unplugged works for either. #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | DaveDodgson: | @michelleworgan It depends on the book! Some are just page after page of sample questions, which gets a bit dry after a while #ELTchat |
| 12:31 pm | rliberni: | RT @englishraven: The best exam prep c/books I’ve seen have come from OUP and Grant Trew (for TOEIC). Make a dud exam almost feel enjoyable! #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | KarenInGreece: | But of course I supplement them with my own material! #ELTChat |
| 12:31 pm | Marisa_C: | @bcnpaul1 Many schools give Ts Loads of Books to keep the Ss busy – I think exam class marketing is a bit of a scam for many schls #eltchat |
| 12:31 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @rliberni: @michelleworgan It could be used as a reference and dipped in and out of #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 Many schools give Ts Loads of Books to keep the Ss busy – I think exam class marketing is a bit of a scam for many schls #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | waykatewit: | @DaveDodgson I do – as sources of questions I often need several texts/lectures on, eg, biology -for 1 stud- past papers help #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | englishraven: | RT @chucksandy: BobK99: how would pencil / paper vs online exams make a difference in how students prepare? Unplugged works for either. #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | KarenInGreece: | @englishraven I agree – OUP are my fave for exam books #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | DaveDodgson: | @michelleworgan Others are essentially regular coursebooks with the odd exam-style question thrown in. as always, we need balance! #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @Marisa_C: @bcnpaul1 Many schools give Ts Loads of Books to keep the Ss busy – I think exam class marketing is a bit of a scam for many schls #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | michelleworgan: | @Marisa_C Yes, often schools charge more for exam classes! It’s still 90mins of a teachers time though! #eltchat |
| 12:32 pm | Marisa_C: | And teachers who are doing a good job – building skills before building exam taking skills – are not favoured #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | englishraven: | @KarenInGreece Cambridge have done some good ones for IELTS as well, come to think of it… #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | du_siemens: | Over here, we use FCE, CAE and CPE Gold… which can be quite difficult if u don’t pick and choose what u find essential 4 ss. #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | waykatewit: | @englishraven @DaveDodgson the same in Russia – academic teaching at universities is the cause #ELTChat |
| 12:32 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @Marisa_C: And teachers who are doing a good job – building skills before building exam taking skills – are not favoured #ELTchat |
| 12:32 pm | SimonGreenall: | #eltchat Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities. |
| 12:32 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @englishraven: The potential vagueness/looseness of Dogme and the constrained/contrived nature of exams actually make for a positive mix… #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | lingliziya: | @DaveDodgson #eltchat also today am going to use sample answers for writing and give Ss the bands to get them to grade it themselves |
| 12:33 pm | michelleworgan: | RT @SimonGreenall: #eltchat Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities. |
| 12:33 pm | chucksandy: | @rliberni RT @englishraven: agree. Grant Trew’s Tactics for TOEIC is a real gem. His communicative approach works for all exams #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @Marisa_C: And teachers who are doing a good job – building skills before building exam taking skills – are not favoured #ELTchat |
| 12:33 pm | janetbianchini: | Exam course books are useful for dipping in and out of = time saving for busy teachers!! #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | du_siemens: | @SimonGreenall and what would be a basic difference between them? #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | rliberni: | @DaveDodgson I would use past papers for a mock or as stds get near to exam not before to I know tchrs who use them every lesson #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven I usually just compile problems from many books as many that i found here in Indonesia quite hard to implant #eltchat |
| 12:33 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @SimonGreenall: #eltchat Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities. |
| 12:33 pm | janetbianchini: | RT @SimonGreenall: #eltchat Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities. |
| 12:33 pm | du_siemens: | @rliberni Yes. I have lots of books with mocks here… #ELTChat |
| 12:33 pm | cintiastella: | RT @SimonGreenall: #eltchat Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities. |
| 12:33 pm | rliberni: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @SimonGreenall: #eltchat Whenever I’ve done exam coursebooks, I distinguished between exam-oriented and exam-specific activities. |
| 12:34 pm | DaveDodgson: | @lingliziya Good idea! The problem with past papers is that some teachers just give them out then review them. More must be done! #ELTchat |
| 12:34 pm | englishraven: | @yitzha_sarwono Once you know the tests, it’s worth exploring how to approach them unplugged or task-based. #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | michelleworgan: | One positive thing Cmbridge have done is introduce PET and KET for schools, for younger candidates – much more relevant for them #eltchat |
| 12:34 pm | lolonagi: | so, what about explaining some grammar or problematic areas to Ss in exams classes, do u go 4 it? #eltchat |
| 12:34 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C schools give Ts loads of books > and expect eternal gratitude for the generosity & cr@p wages in return #eltchat |
| 12:34 pm | rliberni: | @DaveDodgson I also feel that if the answers are in the back they may as well do them at home & then ask about any probs #eltchat |
| 12:34 pm | theteacherjames: | RT @englishraven Most of the exam prep books are pretty bloody awful, to be honest. #ELTChat – but can be cherry picked for handy e.g.s |
| 12:34 pm | du_siemens: | Teach exam classes using exam past papers can be amazing. I’ve downloaded more than 16 full mocks for each exam… #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | SimonGreenall: | @du_siemens You don’t have to prepare for an exam exclusively by practising it. The mix means you get a near normal coursebook. #ELTChat |
| 12:34 pm | KarenInGreece: | Some books though are tedious and boring. I’m expected to follow the books, although I spend a lot of time adapting/changing them! #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | DaveDodgson: | @rliberni I use them but the most important part is breaking it down and giving feedback afterwards #ELTchat |
| 12:35 pm | englishraven: | RT @SimonGreenall: @du_siemens You don’t have to prepare for an exam exclusively by practising it. The mix means you get a near normal coursebook. #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @KarenInGreece @michelleworgan Can you suggest the books? #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | waykatewit: | @barbsaka @michelleworgan unlike gener. courses, NEVER rely on 1 courseb. – they make simple things complex, not enough of anyting #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | KarenInGreece: | RT @bcnpaul1: RT @Marisa_C schools give Ts loads of books > and expect eternal gratitude for the generosity & cr@p wages in return #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | BrunoELT: | #eltchat our textbooks try to incorporate the feeling of exams with similar questions but without the boredom www.learningfactory.net |
| 12:35 pm | SimonGreenall: | @du_siemens Well, as near normal as any coursebook can be hehe #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | lolonagi: | RT @yitzha_sarwono: @KarenInGreece @michelleworgan Can you suggest the books? #eltchat>grea |
| 12:35 pm | du_siemens: | @SimonGreenall … and what would be the advantage of doing it this way? #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | lingliziya: | @englishraven am using the Cambridge Complete PET and CAE. Do u know them? thoughts? #eltchat |
| 12:35 pm | cintiastella: | If we create the right activities during the prep course we don’t need to use past papers for mocks until the real test gets closer #ELTChat |
| 12:35 pm | michelleworgan: | @du_siemens Where did u get them? Did u pay for them? #eltchat Cmbrdge are mean and only let u have one for free! |
| 12:35 pm | ozsolmaz: | my sts came to the office, i had/have to leave the chat. great discussion. i will follow it later on #ELTchat |
| 12:36 pm | englishraven: | @SimonGreenall Let’s not forget, general CB writers have to deal with exams as much as anyone else! #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | @lolonagi absolutley I don’t see a real diff btwn exam & non exam except in the direction if they need to know it then they need it #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | sedayyildirim: | sometimes even a simple exam course book can be a trouble in terms of extra information or unfamiliar items #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | du_siemens: | @michelleworgan Ah-Ra. If I tell you, I’ll probably have to kill you. RS. (whispering) I’ll DM you. #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | yitzha_sarwono: | @englishraven can you suggest any? re:prep books #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | englishraven: | @lingliziya No, but think I’ve used the IELTS one in the same general series? #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | SimonGreenall: | @du_siemens A course which prepares for real life langauge use as well as the exam. #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | janetbianchini: | For speaking Paper 5 FCE get ss to choose 2 of their own pictures to compare and contrast- then stick up round walls 4 all to do #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | DaveDodgson: | One pet hate of mine is when regular coursebooks, readers etc start labelling themselves as ‘suitable for ExamX candidates!2 #ELTchat |
| 12:36 pm | bcnpaul1: | does anyone know a school that pays t’s more for teaching exam classes? #eltchat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @du_siemens: @michelleworgan Ah-Ra. If I tell you, I’ll probably have to kill you. RS. (whispering) I’ll DM you. #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | rliberni: | RT @SimonGreenall: @du_siemens A course which prepares for real life langauge use as well as the exam. #ELTChat |
| 12:36 pm | barbsaka: | RT @sedayyildirim: sometimes even a simple exam course book can be a trouble in terms of extra information or unfamiliar items #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | englishraven: | @yitzha_sarwono Which exam are we talking about? #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | du_siemens: | @SimonGreenall Ah. Now it’s perfectly clear to me. #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | rliberni: | RT @DaveDodgson: One pet hate of mine is when regular coursebooks, readers etc start labelling themselves as ‘suitable for ExamX candidates!2 #ELTchat |
| 12:37 pm | du_siemens: | @bcnpaul1 The one I work for, doesn’t… #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | SimonGreenall: | @du_siemens It’s called ‘having your cake and eating it’ #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | KarenInGreece: | @bcnpaul1 Haha good joke! #eltchat |
| 12:37 pm | englishraven: | @bcnpaul1 Most of the schools I worked for in Asia paid more for TOEFL/TOEIC teachers. #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | du_siemens: | @michelleworgan Don’t be a coward… I’d never do such thing… #ELTChat |
| 12:37 pm | du_siemens: | RT @SimonGreenall: @du_siemens It’s called ‘having your cake and eating it’ #ELTChat |
| 12:38 pm | cybraryman1: | My Study Skills page for students to organize & prepare for tests: http://tinyurl.com/4lvjadz #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | Marisa_C: | RT @englishraven: @bcnpaul1 Most of the schools I worked for in Asia paid more for TOEFL/TOEIC teachers. #ELTChat > Spread the word! |
| 12:38 pm | chucksandy: | Very anti-exam, but love those movies like Stand & Deliver where T helps Ss rise to the challenge & they succeed. ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | rliberni: | @DaveDodgson exactly it’s the post mortem that counts then you have to go back to the teaching bit #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | rliberni: | RT @cybraryman1: My Study Skills page for students to organize & prepare for tests:http://tinyurl.com/4lvjadz #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | michelleworgan: | @bcnpaul1 No, does that actually exist? We get paid monthly though, not hourly #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | rliberni: | RT @chucksandy: Very anti-exam, but love those movies like Stand & Deliver where T helps Ss rise to the challenge & they succeed. ^^ #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | KarenInGreece: | And yet we give up a lot of extra time for exam classes – extra unpaid marking, Saturday lessons, accompanying them to exams… #eltchat |
| 12:38 pm | englishraven: | @SimonGreenall I think the trick is blending in the exam prep without it being too noticeable, but nonetheless helping prepare. #ELTChat |
| 12:38 pm | Marisa_C: | Do exam prep teachers enjoy more respect/recognition in your setting? Is this considered more demanding than other teaching? #ELTchat |
| 12:39 pm | SimonGreenall: | @englishraven Absolutely right. ‘It ain’t rocket science’ quote #ELTChat |
| 12:39 pm | cintiastella: | @chucksandy Maybe it’s anti-exam but it’s definitely motivating! #ELTChat |
| 12:39 pm | lolonagi: | it’s always unfair to us poor teachers #eltchat |
| 12:39 pm | bcnpaul1: | RT @Marisa_C: RT @englishraven: @ |
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